Full Alu Power?

Skillspaybills · Apr 25, 2021

I know that there are many pros who use Alu Power in a hybrid setup, but I have not seen many use a full Alu Power setup, despite using other polyesters. Del Potro is famously known for using full Alu Power when he obliterated everyone in U.S. Open 2009, only to suffer from a wrist injury not long after. Of course, when he recovered, he was using a hybrid setup. Out of all the polyesters I have tried, Alu Power easily has the best combination of spin, power, feel, and control. Performance at the cost of your body?

Nadal has almost never been completely dominated like this.

cha cha · Apr 25, 2021

What tension?
I tried a full bed at 24kg, and it felt like a board, a noisy board at that.

Skillspaybills · Apr 25, 2021

cha cha said:
What tension?
I tried a full bed at 24kg, and it felt like a board, a noisy board at that.

I use 22 kg on my Head Graphene Touch Prestige Mid. Pretty sure Del Potro used close to 30 kg, although I can't find a source anymore.

cha cha · Apr 26, 2021

Skillspaybills said:
Pretty sure Del Potro used close to 30 kg, although I can't find a source anymore.

That must feel like playing with a frying pan.

Bender · Apr 26, 2021

I switched from a full bed of ALU Power (in blue) strung up at 54 lbs to Confidential at 55 lbs.

Way back when I was a kid, I used to use a full bed of ALU (silver, sometimes Rough) at 60-65 lbs, in a Hyper Hammer and later a K Surge.

ron schaap · Apr 26, 2021

cha cha said:
That must feel like playing with a frying pan.

Now he regrets its till the end of his career. Frying pans are for frying not playing tennis.

mxvb · Apr 26, 2021

Every poly higher than 24kg is useless anyway.
They perform better at 22/21 kg.

jugheadfla · Apr 26, 2021

I currently use Alu Power Spin full bed in my PP 360+ and its just fantastic. Haven't found anything close to the feel, spin, and control I get from the this string. Its basically just shaped Alu Power but you can definitely feel more bite with this.

antony · Apr 26, 2021

My babolat PA VS has full ALU Power. It hits great. Try it out

SinneGOAT · Apr 26, 2021

Pretty sure Del Potro uses a hybrid with wilson gut.

Skillspaybills · Apr 26, 2021

SinneGOAT said:
Pretty sure Del Potro uses a hybrid with wilson gut.

Like i said, he switched to a hybrid setup after his injury.

SinneGOAT · Apr 26, 2021

Skillspaybills said:
Like i said, he switched to a hybrid setup after his injury.

Missed that, my bad.

tennisintheeighties · Apr 27, 2021

I think I would longer use the Alu Power 125, which causes a terrible GE few months ago (not the case with the BB Original )

rafa_prestige89 · Apr 27, 2021

Big Banger Original is far superior.

Skillspaybills · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
Big Banger Original is far superior.

Just for a full bed or in general?

CosmosMpower · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
Big Banger Original is far superior.

For wrecking your arm, sure.

rafa_prestige89 · Apr 28, 2021

Skillspaybills said:
Just for a full bed or in general?

For a full bed, never tried it in hybrids.

rafa_prestige89 · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
For wrecking your arm, sure.

No arm problems for those that know how to hit the ball properly, it's really not for everyone.

FIRETennis · Apr 28, 2021

Try Luxilon Element as a cross string to ALU Power mains.

CosmosMpower · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
No arm problems for those that know how to hit the ball properly, it's really not for everyone.

Says the guy that's still stringing 1st gen poly at 57 lbs, LOL

rafa_prestige89 · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
Says the guy that's still stringing 1st gen poly at 57 lbs, LOL

Still no arm problems...maybe some tennis classes and gym work would do the trick for you

antony · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
Still no arm problems...maybe some tennis classes and gym work would do the trick for you

I’ve been putting in 20+ hour weeks playing with full poly at 59lbs (I guess now it’s down to 55) and have had zero arm issues.

goldenhawktennis · Apr 28, 2021

Skillspaybills said:
I know that there are many pros who use Alu Power in a hybrid setup, but I have not seen many use a full Alu Power setup, despite using other polyesters. Del Potro is famously known for using full Alu Power when he obliterated everyone in U.S. Open 2009, only to suffer from a wrist injury not long after. Of course, when he recovered, he was using a hybrid setup. Out of all the polyesters I have tried, Alu Power easily has the best combination of spin, power, feel, and control. Performance at the cost of your body?

Nadal has almost never been completely dominated like this.

I've never been a "I need what the pros use to play like a pro" guy, but after watching that match live and seeing Delpo obliterate Nadal in a Grand Slam 6-2, 6-2, 6-2 I'm pretty sure I was googling "Del Potro racquet" and "Del Potro strings" incessantly LOL

Nostradamus · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
Still no arm problems...maybe some tennis classes and gym work would do the trick for you

i think definitley working out and builiding strength in joints helps out great deal. but i only have time to do it once a week

antony · Apr 28, 2021

goldenhawktennis said:
I've never been a "I need what the pros use to play like a pro" guy, but after watching that match live and seeing Delpo obliterate Nadal in a Grand Slam 6-2, 6-2, 6-2 I'm pretty sure I was googling "Del Potro racquet" and "Del Potro strings" incessantly LOL

What are the deets?

goldenhawktennis · Apr 28, 2021

antony said:
What are the deets?

I'm sure someone here has a better recollection and specifics, but like OP said, pretty sure Delpo was using full bed ALU Power in a Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 95 around that time...

CosmosMpower · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
Still no arm problems...maybe some tennis classes and gym work would do the trick for you

Tell that to the majority of the ATP who are using poly in the high 40's to low 50's many who hybrid with natural gut

antony · Apr 28, 2021

goldenhawktennis said:
I'm sure someone here has a better recollection and specifics, but like OP said, pretty sure Delpo was using full bed ALU Power in a Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 95 around that time...

Nice

I’m using the same layup I believe. I will try ALU Power sometime. Trying 4G right now to great effect, and string tension has been maintained great

rafa_prestige89 · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
Tell that to the majority of the ATP who are using poly in the high 40's to low 50's many who hybrid with natural gut

Well, last week we had 2 ATP clay court tournaments, and all four players that were in the finals (Nadal, Tsitsipas, Berrettini and Karatsev) use full poly in the mid to high 50's...

CosmosMpower · Apr 28, 2021

rafa_prestige89 said:
Well, last week we had 2 ATP clay court tournaments, and all four players that were in the finals (Nadal, Tsitsipas, Berrettini and Karatsev) use full poly in the mid to high 50's...

Cool 3 of them have a combined grand total of 0 grand slams. The other one has been using the same setup since he was basically a kid.

antony · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
Cool 3 of them have a combined grand total of 0 grand slams. The other one has been using the same setup since he was basically a kid.

Yeah let’s just ignore data/facts when they don’t fit our opinions

CosmosMpower · Apr 28, 2021

antony said:
Yeah let’s just ignore data/facts when they don’t fit our opinions

Or you can just take an incredibly small sample size that's not statistically significant in the grand scheme of things and try and spin it to fit your narrative. That works too.

antony · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
Or you can just take an incredibly small sample size that's not statistically significant in the grand scheme of things and try and spin it to fit your narrative. That works too.

correlation=/=causation

There are many variables that go into people having arm issues and clearly strings are not the only variable.

CosmosMpower · Apr 28, 2021

antony said:
correlation=/=causation

There are many variables that go into people having arm issues and clearly strings are not the only variable.

Yeah but I've never seen anyone get tennis elbow with natural gut strung at 45 lbs either not matter what the other variables

antony · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
Yeah but I've never seen anyone get tennis elbow with natural gut strung at 45 lbs either not matter what the other variables

Absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence

I’m sure those people exist. Natural gut is probably easier on the arm (I’ve yet to try it. The clash 98 I’m getting has been strung with natural gut. Did not get it because of arm problems), but there are plenty of folks who play full poly without problems too.

also, my sister doesn’t play tennis and was diagnosed with tennis elbow

rafa_prestige89 · Apr 28, 2021

CosmosMpower said:
Cool 3 of them have a combined grand total of 0 grand slams. The other one has been using the same setup since he was basically a kid.

So you're saying the reason that those 3 players don't have a slam is that they don't use natural gut?

flipflap · Apr 28, 2021

Ok stop the discussion already!

For those who play with full bed please also indicate your tensions!

antony · Apr 28, 2021

flipflap said:
Ok stop the discussion already!

For those who play with full bed please also indicate your tensions!

My Babolat Pure Aero VS with ALU Power Spin (I believe 16G) was strung at like 54lbs and is now 49lbs or so. Not my absolute favorite racquet to play with (less control vs my 6.1 95 18x20) , but the string is nice. Personally I'd go higher in tension next time.

jugheadfla · Apr 28, 2021

flipflap said:
Ok stop the discussion already!

For those who play with full bed please also indicate your tensions!

Alu Power Spin 127 FB at 53lbs

Skillspaybills · Apr 29, 2021

goldenhawktennis said:
I'm sure someone here has a better recollection and specifics, but like OP said, pretty sure Delpo was using full bed ALU Power in a Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 95 around that time...

18/20 with 60+ lbs alu power = ouch

antony · Apr 29, 2021

Skillspaybills said:
18/20 with 60+ lbs alu power = ouch

Have you had experience with this combo

SinneGOAT · Apr 30, 2021

Well just tried a pack of Alu power spin, really nice string. Feel was clean and crisp. Strung at 46/44, got good power, control and pop and no arm pain. However I’m hoping all the talk of Alu power bagging out after a few hours is not what I experience.

Skillspaybills · May 3, 2021

antony said:
Have you had experience with this combo

thankfully, no

antony · May 3, 2021

Skillspaybills said:
thankfully, no

Okay. Just checking. It sounded like you never played with that combination. My current setup is an 18x20 in Luxilon 4G at 59 lbs and I love it. No arm problems whatsoever. I bet ALU Power would be great too. Will try at some point.

SinneGOAT · May 3, 2021

antony said:
Okay. Just checking. It sounded like you never played with that combination. My current setup is an 18x20 in Luxilon 4G at 59 lbs and I love it. I bet ALU Power would be great too. Will try at some point.

@antony irl

antony · May 3, 2021

SinneGOAT said:
@antony irl

I have been in the gym training for tennis in addition to playing.

SinneGOAT · May 3, 2021

antony said:
I have been in the gym training for tennis in addition to playing.

I wish I had that kind of commitment, what kind of training?

antony · May 3, 2021

SinneGOAT said:
I wish I had that kind of commitment, what kind of training?

Whatever the trainer/coaches think is a good idea. Bands stuff, weights, agility training with lines, cones and steps, etc. with reps and sets usually to the point of exhaustion.

“There’s lots of different opinion here. My opinion is any general weights, strength building is good but just be careful, our body types for tennis at our level at this point should put more emphasis on lower weights, higher reps and flawless technique.

For tennis, more focus on leg strength (wide variety of leg lunge exercises with and with out weights, squats, box jumps, etc) and core strength (leg lifts, Russian twists with medicine ball, sit-ups, etc) AND incorporate lots of ‘band’ work for your arms and shoulders (tons of info on the web here).

Also, focus on your foot speed (jump rope, running on the spot interval training, wide variety of footwork drills you can do indoors such as ladder drills, using a few cones working on short/quick lateral and forward/backward movements....plenty of info online here too.”

paying off too! Just have had two sessions so far and people have already complimented on my looking healthier and fitter. I’m a newb and recently played a 4.0 friend my age from Atlanta in singles and was 0-6 with many deuces and then 3-1 before we had to go!!!!

rafa_prestige89 · May 3, 2021

antony said:
I have been in the gym training for tennis in addition to playing.

Great, like everyone else should do, regardless of tennis level...what usually happens is that people don't go to the gym, play tennis, get injured, and blame the string.

USPTARF97 · May 5, 2021

Full Alu power in a Wilson Blade Pro @ 50 is awesome. Played with Alu Full bed for about 15yrs.
First three hours are about as good as it gets.

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