but Where are the (200G) Clones?

plasma · Feb 14, 2009

send in the 200g clones

:

Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother....they're here.

Stephen Sondheim

Bud · Feb 14, 2009

Lol! Wouldn't be worth cloning those... too difficult :wink:

meowmix · Feb 14, 2009

Whoa, that racket on the end... that's got to be one of the longest throat's I've ever seen. Which racket is that?

Bud · Feb 14, 2009

meowmix said:
Whoa, that racket on the end... that's got to be one of the longest throat's I've ever seen. Which racket is that?

Either a Max 100G or Max 150G, I believe.

jimbo333 · Feb 15, 2009

It's a MAX 150G, in the photo above!

The MAX 100G I believe was only released in Japan in mid 80's (ie after the 150 and 200). To be honest I'm not sure about this, does anyone know the facts about the MAX 100G racquet?

Oh, and if anyone wants to sell one, I would pay a fortune for a MAX 100G with an original cover, and I mean a fortune!!!

vsbabolat · Feb 15, 2009

^^^^^
Why?? The Max 100G was not a Injection Molded Frame and was not made in England.

jimbo333 · Feb 15, 2009

Hi vsbabolat,

So can you confirm that the MAX 100G was indeed made in Japan? I thought that it wasn't an IMF as well, so are you sure about this?

The reason I would pay a fortune for an original MAX 100G with cover, is I collect these Dunlop MAX racquets and can't find this anywhere, it is rare!!!

vsbabolat · Feb 15, 2009

jimbo333 said:
Hi vsbabolat,

So can you confirm that the MAX 100G was indeed made in Japan? I thought that it wasn't an IMF as well, so are you sure about this?

The reason I would pay a fortune for an original MAX 100G with cover, is I collect these Dunlop MAX racquets and can't find this anywhere, it is rare!!!

I believe the Max 100G was made in Taiwan. IMF racquets do not have Grommets.

ibii70 said:
My Friend have max100G but the painjob better than max200G .

IMF racquets don't have grommets because of the production process:
First there is a casting of a low melting point alloy core. The alloy core is then put in the injection molding machine. A Compound of GRAPHITE and NYLON is Melted and then injected around the alloy core. Once the graphite and Nylon is cooled the Alloy core is heated up so it melts and then poured out of the frame. This leaves individual string holes that have pillars inside the frame. There are no holes drilled in these injection molded frames by Dunlop.

I have a Max 200G display with a cut out showing the inside of the Max 200G.

The only IMF racquets are:
Max 150G, Max 200G, Max 300i, Max 400i, Max 500i. Max 800i, and the Slazenger Phantom IMF.

Bud · Feb 15, 2009

vsbabolat said:
I believe the Max 100G was made in Taiwan. IMF racquets do not have Grommets.

IMF racquets don't have grommets because of the production process:
First there is a casting of a low melting point alloy core. The alloy core is then put in the injection molding machine. A Compound of GRAPHITE and NYLON is Melted and then injected around the alloy core. Once the graphite and Nylon is cooled the Alloy core is heated up so it melts and then poured out of the frame. This leaves individual string holes that have pillars inside the frame. There are no holes drilled in these injection molded frames by Dunlop.

I have a Max 200G display with a cut out showing the inside of the Max 200G.

The only IMF racquets are:
Max 150G, Max 200G, Max 300i, Max 400i, Max 500i. Max 800i, and the Slazenger Phantom IMF.

PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!

plasma · Feb 15, 2009

I have a similar although far less formal display!:

what is the headsize on the max 100g?

Rorsach · Feb 15, 2009

This is the only place i've seen a MAX100G:
http://www50.tok2.com/home/sabe/tennis/titem50.htm

It looks like it's the same size as a MAX200G.

plasma · Feb 15, 2009

I don't care if it's IMF or AMF, that Max 100 is one BAMF!!!

jimbo333 · Feb 16, 2009

I really would like to buy one of those MAX 100G, and I mean really want to buy

So if anyone out there has one with original cover, will pay loads for it, let me know please!!!

Realise it's a later non IMF frame, but sometimes (and I do mean sometimes), it's just nice to add something to the collection, and I collect Dunlop Max rackets (amongst others), so need this one for sure!!!

Bud · Feb 16, 2009

Nicalon?

BTW... what is Nicalon?

Rorsach · Feb 16, 2009

Bud said:
BTW... what is Nicalon?

http://composite.about.com/library/glossary/n/bldef-n3600.htm

and

http://www.coiceramics.com/pdfs/Nicalon_1-17-06.pdf

Bud · Feb 16, 2009

Rorsach said:
http://composite.about.com/library/glossary/n/bldef-n3600.htm

and

http://www.coiceramics.com/pdfs/Nicalon_1-17-06.pdf

Lol! Thanks ;-)

ilian · Feb 18, 2009

plasma said:
send in the 200g clones:

Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother....they're here.

Stephen Sondheim

Don't you know that the best things in this world cannot be cloned?

vsbabolat · Feb 18, 2009

Rorsach · Feb 18, 2009

Doubleuteef?

Got more info on that thing?

ilian · Feb 18, 2009

vsbabolat said:

Okay, that's interesting... That looks as if it should be the 300i, but it says 200GT. What is the deal here? It says graphite injection on it and it is grommetless, so it has to be injection moulded. If that is the case, it has to have been made in the Dunlop factory in England since it was the only one in the world. In that case, it is some early or special version of the 300i. Is that the case or there is something I didn't account for?

Rorsach · Feb 18, 2009

It says 200GT, not 300GT. Perhaps a 200G in a 300I paintjob. Or a 300I mock-up, before they settled on the 300I name.

Or someone has been creative with Photoshop.

ilian · Feb 18, 2009

vsbabolat said:
I believe the Max 100G was made in Taiwan. IMF racquets do not have Grommets.

IMF racquets don't have grommets because of the production process:
First there is a casting of a low melting point alloy core. The alloy core is then put in the injection molding machine. A Compound of GRAPHITE and NYLON is Melted and then injected around the alloy core. Once the graphite and Nylon is cooled the Alloy core is heated up so it melts and then poured out of the frame. This leaves individual string holes that have pillars inside the frame. There are no holes drilled in these injection molded frames by Dunlop.

I have a Max 200G display with a cut out showing the inside of the Max 200G.

The only IMF racquets are:
Max 150G, Max 200G, Max 300i, Max 400i, Max 500i. Max 800i, and the Slazenger Phantom IMF.

I wonder how this one is going to hit. I know that it would be different than the MAX 200G because it is not injection moulded and it has grommets, but the shape is identical and that makes me curious...

ilian · Feb 18, 2009

Rorsach said:
It says 200GT, not 300GT. Perhaps a 200G in a 300I paintjob

Yeah, my bad - 200GT. In any case, what is the truth behind it?

vsbabolat · Feb 18, 2009

ilian said:
Okay, that's interesting... That looks as if it should be the 300i, but it says 200GT. What is the deal here? It says graphite injection on it and it is grommetless, so it has to be injection moulded. If that is the case, it has to have been made in the Dunlop factory in England since it was the only one in the world. In that case, it is some early or special version of the 300i. Is that the case or there is something I didn't account for?

Rorsach said:
It says 200GT, not 300GT. Perhaps a 200G in a 300I paintjob. Or a 300I mock-up, before they settled on the 300I name.

Or someone has been creative with Photoshop.

It is a Max 300i Prototype with Max 200GT printing on it, a darker blue, and glossy clear coat Finnish. This was prior to Dunlop's decision to calling it the Max 300i.

jimbo333 · Feb 18, 2009

This is a prototype for the 300i, obviously before it was called the 300i

Oh and before anyone else tries, I'm buying it off the wonderful owner of the best tennis racquets anywhere on these forums

As soon as he decides to sell that is, which I realise may be some time!!!

jimbo333 · Feb 18, 2009

vsbabolat, I'm actually in love with this racquet

vsbabolat · Feb 18, 2009

Sorry to disappoint but I am not selling any racquets now.

plasma · Feb 18, 2009

do 200gt specs match the 300i? what does gt stand for? I see gtx on many racquets...??? was the 200gt prototype released to the public or is this a one of a kind Test racquet???

vsbabolat · Feb 18, 2009

plasma said:
do 200gt specs match the 300i? what does gt stand for? I see gtx on many racquets...??? was the 200gt prototype released to the public or is this a one of a kind Test racquet???

The specs match the Max 300i because it is a Max 300i just with glossy clear coat and with 200GT where it should say 300i. The Max 200GT prototype was not released to the public and was a test racquet.

ilian · Feb 18, 2009

vsbabolat said:
It is a Max 300i Prototype with Max 200GT printing on it, a darker blue, and glossy clear coat Finnish. This was prior to Dunlop's decision to calling it the Max 300i.

That explains it. By the way, how do you know these things?

Bud · Feb 18, 2009

vsbabolat said:
Sorry to disappoint but I am not selling any racquets now.

He'd like you to leave it to him in your will :grin:

plasma · Feb 18, 2009

do I have this correct? the max 100, 200, 300i(200gt), 400i and 500g all have the same headsize? that's 1-5 with the magic 83 square inch headsize. Does anyone have them all???pics!!!!!!!
I played with about 5 different max 200g's and hated all of them, actually found them unplayable, then I got an original in a trade which was perfectly strung, it felt exactly like a chunky prostaff!!!!mmmm, the grip is still terrible though and I will put a fresh fairway on it soon, guess these puppies didn't age well despite their hearty appearance...Also heard stories of disintegrating grommets. Like hitting with a kneissl, 200g's are a unique and wonderful thing.

Rorsach · Feb 19, 2009

The MAX200G and 300I come from the same mold. The 400I is a tiny bit bigger and the 500I and 800I are larger still.

There are almost no grommets on a 200G and the ones that are there are easily replaced, but i find find quite tough.

vsbabolat · Feb 19, 2009

plasma said:
do I have this correct? the max 100, 200, 300i(200gt), 400i and 500g all have the same headsize? that's 1-5 with the magic 83 square inch headsize. Does anyone have them all???pics!!!!!!!
I played with about 5 different max 200g's and hated all of them, actually found them unplayable, then I got an original in a trade which was perfectly strung, it felt exactly like a chunky prostaff!!!!mmmm, the grip is still terrible though and I will put a fresh fairway on it soon, guess these puppies didn't age well despite their hearty appearance...Also heard stories of disintegrating grommets. Like hitting with a kneissl, 200g's are a unique and wonderful thing.

You are missing the Max 150G. The 100 does not belong. The Max 500i and Max 800i were reported to be 95. The Max 500i and Max 800i are different mold to each other. The Max 500i is very boxy beam design while the Max 800i is some what more aerodynamic in beam design.

Never heard of disintegrating grommets because there are only grommets in the throat bridge and only 6 individual grommets in strategic locations.

plasma · Feb 19, 2009

yes, the 100 lacks the throat dimples, found on the 150g ("baby g")...amazing that only the 200g's and 300i used that sublime mold...looking to match my 150g....nothing like a tiny graphite head for taking massive effortless cuts at the ball!!!!

ilian · Feb 19, 2009

plasma said:
yes, the 100 lacks the throat dimples, found on the 150g ("baby g")...amazing that only the 200g's and 300i used that sublime mold...looking to match my 150g....nothing like a tiny graphite head for taking massive effortless cuts at the ball!!!!

I would love to get my hands on one of those...

jimbo333 · Feb 19, 2009

vsbabolat has the best racquets on the planet

vsbabolat said:
Sorry to disappoint but I am not selling any racquets now.

That's fine I don't want it now, later will be fine

There is no hurry, look after it for me

jimbo333 · Feb 19, 2009

Bud said:
He'd like you to leave it to him in your will :grin:

Vsbabolat have you done your will yet

By the way just for interest you know, how old are you, are you keeping fit, do you smoke etc:twisted:

And if you were sent some white powder in the post, would you sniff it at all?

LOL That could mean all sorts of things just realised LOL

Yes I would like the racquet, but am willing to wait, probably a very long time!!!

jimbo333 · Feb 19, 2009

Getting back to the thread.

There are many different versions of these Dunlop Max IMF racquets. I collect them, and have come to realise how many there are, it really is amazing!

Even the later 800i came in 2 completely different molds, which really surprised me as it was only available for a year.

There are dozens of different versions of the 200G. For example, even in the first 2 years, it had three different molds. I think I explained this earlier. Anyway will have my digital camera now in only 8 days!!

Looking forward to posting loads of pics

ilian · Feb 19, 2009

jimbo333 said:
Getting back to the thread.

There are many different versions of these Dunlop Max IMF racquets. I collect them, and have come to realise how many there are, it really is amazing!

Even the later 800i came in 2 completely different molds, which really surprised me as it was only available for a year.

There are dozens of different versions of the 200G. For example, even in the first 2 years, it had three different molds. I think I explained this earlier. Anyway will have my digital camera now in only 8 days!!

Looking forward to posting loads of pics

Wow, diferent moulds for the MAX 200G? The 800i came in two different moulds? I am very surprised... Anyway, here are some pictures that I have of those great sticks:

ilian · Feb 19, 2009

Some more:

ilian · Feb 19, 2009

And more:

ilian · Feb 19, 2009

And even more:

I used to have a MAX 500i, but I gave it to a friend of mine to play one day and he never gave it back to me so I don't have it anymore...

v205 · Feb 20, 2009

I have a Max 300i in the 1st generation paintjob. Still prefer hitting with the Max 200g though. Maybe it's the strings.

jimbo333 · Feb 20, 2009

ilian said:
And even more:

I used to have a MAX 500i, but I gave it to a friend of mine to play one day and he never gave it back to me so I don't have it anymore...

Hi again Ilian,

What is that racquet in the photo?

It's so small I can't see it!

ilian · Feb 20, 2009

jimbo333 said:
Hi again Ilian,

What is that racquet in the photo?

It's so small I can't see it!

It's a version of the MAX 200G. I am not sure which exactly, but it might be the golden grand slam version.

vsbabolat · Feb 20, 2009

Here is a rare Max 200G with the original cosmetics that celebrates John McEnroe winning the 1984 Wimbledon and U.S. Open in the same year with the Max 200G.

vsbabolat · Feb 20, 2009

Here are sections cut from the Max 200G to show the internal pillars that you can only have with a Injection Molded Frame.

A real piece of art how the manufactured these racquets.

Bud · Feb 20, 2009

vsbabolat said:
Here is a rare Max 200G with the original cosmetics that celebrates John McEnroe winning the 1984 Wimbledon and U.S. Open in the same year with the Max 200G.

I think I may have one of these, too

I'll take a peek, later.

Bud · Feb 20, 2009

vsbabolat said:
Here are sections cut from the Max 200G to show the internal pilers that you can only have with a Injection Molded Frame.

Awesome cut-away views, too!

but Where are the (200G) Clones?

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