Roddick - top 4 at the end of the year ?

AndyArodRoddick

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He is 2nd atm in the race and if he stays fit and injury free, i can't see a reason why shouldnt Andy be in the top 4. He hits some great ball atm and if he collects..lets say 600pts from the claycourt season, then he has every opportunity to get back to the top 4.

I dont think andy can get past rafa or fed at the end of the year, but being ahead of djoker, murray, delpo, davy is looking quite good atm.
 
clayman2000

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Common man, that aint gunna happen.

We all know that Roddick has 1 objective: win a slam.
Despite his always fierce body language, there are matches that I get the sense he doesnt care about. The San Jose final was one example
 
clayman2000

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AndyArodRoddick said:
He was out of form + injured..
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Have you ever noticed that he is out of form and injured in a lot of small tournies. For example let me run down 09:
Injured: Queens, all of fall
Out of form: Clay season, Shanghai and Bejing

You cant get to top 4 at his capability level if your out of form for so many tournies
 
AndyArodRoddick

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clayman2000 said:
Have you ever noticed that he is out of form and injured in a lot of small tournies. For example let me run down 09:
Injured: Queens, all of fall
Out of form: Clay season, Shanghai and Bejing

You cant get to top 4 at his capability level if your out of form for so many tournies
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He played on of he's best Clay court seasons last year - he had honeymoons at the time of Rome though..

Did you even see the Queens or Shanghai tournament ? Some serious stuff was going on out there..

I actually still don't get that 2 and 4 loss to Kubot though at Beijing.


My point is, when was the last time when Andy was 2nd before the claycourt season ?
 
samprasvsfederer123

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um i personally think that he might soon between this year and next year drop out of the top 10 hes nto going to win another grand slam, and he just doesnt have it he is lost, he cant beat novak or murray anymore, at least that how i feel

unfortunatley though, because i am a big roddick fan
 
AndyArodRoddick

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samprasvsfederer123 said:
um i personally think that he might soon between this year and next year drop out of the top 10 hes nto going to win another grand slam, and he just doesnt have it he is lost, he cant beat novak or murray anymore, at least that how i feel

unfortunatley though, because i am a big roddick fan
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LOL ?! Rochus and Fishy can and Andy cant..i mean seriously LOL!
 
kishnabe

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Roddick is going to win another slam...Anything can happen if Lubricant won a master series then I don't see that maybe the top seeds lose to guy on fire and Roddick capitalizes or Roddick goes red hot. I don't see Davydenko winning a slam but Roddick surely can win another HC Slam title or Wimby!
 
Li Ching Yuen

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The only chance for Roddick is the grass season. The fast sliding surface makes his absolutely non-aggressive shots, acceptable.

Couple that with his great serve, and he can get in the final stages.

He's a joke on hard courts now.
 
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Andy Roddick and James Blake are beyond their prime...the US needs some good up and coming talent - which I don't see happening for a while.
 
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AndyArodRoddick said:
He is 2nd atm in the race and if he stays fit and injury free, i can't see a reason why shouldnt Andy be in the top 4. He hits some great ball atm and if he collects..lets say 600pts from the claycourt season, then he has every opportunity to get back to the top 4.

I dont think andy can get past rafa or fed at the end of the year, but being ahead of djoker, murray, delpo, davy is looking quite good atm.
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No I don't see Andy making it to the top four by the end of the year unless Djokovic and Murray have complete mental breakdowns. I can see him squeaking in to the top 5 perhaps, but he's got to defend or make up for finalist points at Wimbledon and that won't be easy.
 
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only if the 9 better players than Andy out of the top ten falter.
 
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AndyArodRoddick said:
He played on of he's best Clay court seasons last year - he had honeymoons at the time of Rome though..

Did you even see the Queens or Shanghai tournament ? Some serious stuff was going on out there..

I actually still don't get that 2 and 4 loss to Kubot though at Beijing.


My point is, when was the last time when Andy was 2nd before the claycourt season ?
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he has clay court points to defend and unfortunately he won't!
 
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clayman2000 said:
Common man, that aint gunna happen.

We all know that Roddick has 1 objective: win a slam.
Despite his always fierce body language, there are matches that I get the sense he doesnt care about. The San Jose final was one example
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Roddick would play to win in a 4.5 event with six players.
 
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samprasvsfederer123 said:
um i personally think that he might soon between this year and next year drop out of the top 10 hes nto going to win another grand slam, and he just doesnt have it he is lost, he cant beat novak or murray anymore, at least that how i feel

unfortunatley though, because i am a big roddick fan
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This post has fail written all over it

Last meeting between Andy Murray and Andy Roddick

Roddick def. Murray 6-4, 4-6, 7-6, 7-6

Last meeting between Andy Roddick and Novak DJokovic

Roddick def. Djokovic 6-4, 7-6.

Djokovic hasn't beaten Roddick since 2008! Novak has beat only one top 20 player all year...how on earth can you say Roddick can't beat him when Roddick has beaten a top 10 player this year and a handful in the top 20.

Putting Roddick at #4 seems a bit of a stretch but at the moment it seems possible. He has been far more consistent than most of the players on the tour at the moment. He should have an easy run to the semis at miami. He isn't going to do strong on clay granted but all he needs to do is as said get about 500 points on clay. He has gone deep at Rome before and he could probably at least see a quarters in one of the 3 clay master series and another 3rd or 4th round in France
 
slicefox

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other players will pick up their games later in the season.

roddick is just the only top 10 without a slump/injury atm thats why he's winning points.

wait until the competition begins.
 
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He could try not pushing bad players. That could get him to the top 5. He might get it later in the season where he can know when to attack and when to play consistent
 
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Well, nothing can be ruled out, here, but even if he does maintain form and health consistently this season, it seems most likely he will still lose a tremendous amount of ground to other top players (Nadal, Djokovic, Del Potro) over the course of the clay-court season, meaning he will need to greatly outperform them the rest of the year to stand a serious chance at finishing ahead of them.
 
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tintin said:
let's hope he doesn't defend either his clay court and grass court points

I hope he injures himself again
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Damn, man. Thinking back at some of your posts regarding Roddick - well, I'm not sure what he did to you (or possibly your pet or loved one, a lot of things can make a person snap) but it must have been bad.
 
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FlamEnemY

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He is currently No 8. I can easily see him getting to number 5 of maybe even 4, granted he doesn't injure himself and stay focused.
 
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He'll have to learn how to hit an offensive forehand again and hope that injury continues to be a problem for some of those ahead of him.
 
davey25

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Definitely not. Djokovic even playing awful will gain all kinds of points on Roddick on clay I am pretty sure. Murray has been awful since Australia yet I am pretty sure he leads Roddick in the race at this point. I just dont see him putting that many big results outside of maybe Wimbledon (and even then I am not sure) to end the year with more points than either of those guys, even if they have a subpar year.
 
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tintin said:
let's hope he doesn't defend either his clay court and grass court points

I hope he injures himself again
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Your posts are moronic at the best of times; hence why everyone ignores you. This is just cruel to wish bad health of fail on anyone.
 
Andy G

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No way. He would have to earn 3000 pts. on top of any that he needs to defend. And thats if the guys above him don't earn pts. themselves.
 
Andy G

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Anaconda said:
Your posts are moronic at the best of times; hence why everyone ignores you. This is just cruel to wish bad health of fail on anyone.
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I agree. If you don't like someone fine. But don't wish them to get injured.

PS Anaconda, you don't know how good Sinatra and Bennett are if you think they can't sing. It would be one of those "you don't even know that you don't know".
 
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AndyArodRoddick said:
He is 2nd atm in the race and if he stays fit and injury free, i can't see a reason why shouldnt Andy be in the top 4. He hits some great ball atm and if he collects..lets say 600pts from the claycourt season, then he has every opportunity to get back to the top 4.

I dont think andy can get past rafa or fed at the end of the year, but being ahead of djoker, murray, delpo, davy is looking quite good atm.
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Hits some great ball at the moment? Rolling the ball in, hitting 5 winners in total vs Soderling? (2 one foot from the net)

I've read a few of your messages and they show me that you have a massive biased edge for Roddick and didn't watch him during his prime.
 
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kishnabe said:
Roddick is going to win another slam...Anything can happen if Lubricant won a master series then I don't see that maybe the top seeds lose to guy on fire and Roddick capitalizes or Roddick goes red hot. I don't see Davydenko winning a slam but Roddick surely can win another HC Slam title or Wimby!
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I bet you've been saying this for 5 years.

The facts: Roddick isn't winning any more slams, he might scrape the top 4 because Davydenko and Del Potro are injured, but I doubt it and even if he did, he wouldn't be there for long and not for the years end.
 
AndyArodRoddick

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Ocean Drive said:
Hits some great ball at the moment? Rolling the ball in, hitting 5 winners in total vs Soderling? (2 one foot from the net)

I've read a few of your messages and they show me that you have a massive biased edge for Roddick and didn't watch him during his prime.
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Oh, i havent watch Andy in his prime ?? 04 was his FH prime, but he serve ~60% 1st serves+terrible BH(kind a like Ivo)..i think you have just watched these 04 FH highlights, if your saying it was is prime..he basically had only FH and 145mph serve.

If i'd have a chanche to choose to be 04 everythingisaboutpower or 09-10 grinder Roddick, i'd be grinder fosho..

I mean he made 30-40 UEs in every of he's matches in he's "prime" years.
 
Li Ching Yuen

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AndyArodRoddick said:
Oh, i havent watch Andy in his prime ?? 04

I mean he made 30-40 UEs in every of he's matches in he's "prime" years.
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He also won a slam.

Here's a little lesson for you: "Pushing doesn't get you any major titles"

Ge that into your system.
The only tournament where Roddick didn't adopt this horrible tactic was last year at Wimbledon, and look where it got him to.
 
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AndyArodRoddick said:
Oh, i havent watch Andy in his prime ?? 04 was his FH prime, but he serve ~60% 1st serves+terrible BH(kind a like Ivo)..i think you have just watched these 04 FH highlights, if your saying it was is prime..he basically had only FH and 145mph serve.

If i'd have a chanche to choose to be 04 everythingisaboutpower or 09-10 grinder Roddick, i'd be grinder fosho..

I mean he made 30-40 UEs in every of he's matches in he's "prime" years.
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And he also smacked tonnes of winners.

No, 2003-2004 was his prime. He was fast as hell, he had a big forehand, a huge serve that many people weren't reading in those days, a pretty crappy backhand but good enough to set up his forehand and a volley game as good as he does today (I don't buy all this Roddick is a hugely improved volleyer, he barely comes into the net and when he does, it's for easy finish off volleys)

And no, I watched tennis probably more back then than I do now, thanks.

Yeah, you'd choose "I can beat the lower ranked guys but get beaten comfortably by the top guys when it matters" Roddick, fair enough.
 
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Li Ching Yuen said:
He also won a slam.

Here's a little lesson for you: "Pushing doesn't get you any major titles"

Ge that into your system.
The only tournament where Roddick didn't adopt this horrible tactic was last year at Wimbledon, and look where it got him to.
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I agree, that's what it comes down to, winning the majors, for a player like Roddick.

And he's going to be winning not too many majors (zero) playing like this. He's been slowly getting more and more pushy as the years go on and he's becoming less and less successful.

He played a lot more aggressive at Wimbledon but even still, I think he could've unloaded on that forehand a lot more. Too many times did I see him hit loopy forehand after forehand when a few years later, he'd have sent it for a winner. If he stuck with that type of game plan as he did there, then he'd have been having a lot more success.
 
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Ocean Drive said:
And he also smacked tonnes of winners.

No, 2003-2004 was his prime. He was fast as hell, he had a big forehand, a huge serve that many people weren't reading in those days, a pretty crappy backhand but good enough to set up his forehand and a volley game as good as he does today (I don't buy all this Roddick is a hugely improved volleyer, he barely comes into the net and when he does, it's for easy finish off volleys)

And no, I watched tennis probably more back then than I do now, thanks.

Yeah, you'd choose "I can beat the lower ranked guys but get beaten comfortably by the top guys when it matters" Roddick, fair enough.
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In 2009 Roddick played well at both the AO and Wimbledon, and lost to *gasp* this guy named Roger Federer. Pretty sure he's a bad match-up for nearly everyone, and owns everyone not named Nadal.
 
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Right now I think that Fed, Rafa and Del Po create the most problems for Roddick. Roddick has been doing well against Novak because a. Novak has gone mental now, what is up with his serve? and b. Roddick is playing cleanly which works well against the mentally fragile. I feel that Murray is going through a rut but when he is playing well, he has a good chance of beating Roddick especially because of his excellent return.

I agree that the only slam Roddick has a chance at is Wimbledon. He would probably need Fed out of the picture and I think he would have a better chance against Rafa than Fed in my opinion.

I don't think Roddick cares about rankings so much anymore....
 
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Andy G said:
Oh wait, I just noticed Sinatra on your avatar. Must be a joke. Nevermind.
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Someone tried telling me that Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett couldn't sing. I argued that opinion doesn't come down to it. I'll explain.

It's OPINION if you don't like Sinatra or Bennett as artists.

It's FACT that they have very good technique.

I don't like opera. However i appreciate the fact that TECHNICALLY they are the BEST singers ever.
 
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I thought the suggestions that Roddick would fall out of the top ten this year were pretty ridiculous, but to suggest Andy Roddick is a top four player is equally ridiculous. Obviously, when he is playing well, Andy certainly is capable of challenging and even defeating the top 5 players in the world on any surface but clay, but he is too inconsistent in the smaller tournaments to supplant Djokovic and Murray, who are just in a bit of a rough patch.
 
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If Roddick can be consistent and show that competitive fire in all his matches, then I certainly think he can finish at #4. I worry about the clay court season, though.
 
JeMar

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Doubt it.

Murray and Djokovic are bound to get their heads out of their asses at some point.

Plus, Roddick actually has some points to defend during the clay court season this year.
 
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Well let's see players that are in front of him

Federer - Will still be #1 by the end of the season

Nadal - Will be #2, will defend most of his clay court points probably will win Roland Garros and get a good showing at Wimby

Djokovic - I'll hold my opinion till after Roland Garros, but he has the potential to drop a lot of points if he doesn't fix his serve fast

Murray - Same, he could fall out of the top 5. He needs to get his head on straight

Del Potro - He won't make it to the semis at Roland Garros, and he won't defend US Open. He might get a masters on the hard courts but I doubt it, this guy has been out of it for too long maybe next year

Davydenko - Will miss a lot of tournaments due to injury, and because of that fall far in the rankings

Soderling - Will not get to finals at Roland Garros, but he can pick up a lot of points on the clay courts. Maybe pick up a hard court title or two

Roddick will at least surpass Davydenko, and most likely Del Potro. So that puts him at 6th, Soderling and Djokovic are the two I believe he could surpass to get to 4. It's not impossible, but he does have to rely on people to lose their points.

He has the possiblity to get points on the American hard courts as well as a better showing at the US Open and more hard courts after the US Open since he only played 2 tournaments and only got 10 points after the US Open
 
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Del Potro will probably only get better when he gets back.

Roddick cannot overtake Davydenko, b/c Davy plays too many tournaments, and thus embodies inflated numbers.

It would be difficult to think that Nadal/Djokovic/Murray will not return to form at some point this season.

Roddick will probably overtake Soderling; I'll give you that, but I really don't even see him getting back into the top 5 or 6.

I mean, it's not a horrible thing. He doesn't care about his ranking anyway. It's all about winning a Slam, and if he wants to win a Slam, he'll have to beat the top people anyway whether he faces them in the finals or the quarterfinals.

Besides, his ranking hasn't really had an effect on how far he makes it into Slams over the course of his career. After all, in 2 of his 5 Slam finals, he was seeded 6th or worse (2006 U.S. Open and 2009 Wimbledon) (Seeded #2 at SW19 2004 and 2005)(Seeded #4 at U.S. Open 2003)
 
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