Please tell me someone here caught one of the racquets Roddick threw away tonight!!!

Did anyone else see Andy Roddick throw away his three spare racquets to the crowd after his loss to Tipsarevic??

Would be awesome if someone here on these forums had caught them :)
 

Meriko

Rookie
It makes me mad that the people who get the stuff pros throw in crowd are all corporate people who got tickets for free, when the real fans are in the higher part of the court
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Sure, the fans down below get the racquets (including one of Djoker's tonight), but.....most of the crap signed balls get hit upstairs at the end of the match!!!!
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Sure, the fans down below get the racquets (including one of Djoker's tonight), but.....most of the crap signed balls get hit upstairs at the end of the match!!!!

You know I don't think Arthur Ashe Stadium is big enough. The USTA should have made it bigger so you get more fans in the upper decks so they can fight with each other more. The upper deck fans have to entertain themselves somehow cause you cant see anything that far away from the court.

Edit* The above post was sarcasm. Arthur Ashe stadium is too big and you cant see anything above the luxury boxes. The luxury boxes are only there to fatten the USTA's bank account. Ashe Stadium is the least fan friendly Tennis stadium I have ever been in!
 
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Pocky

Rookie
Sure, the fans down below get the racquets (including one of Djoker's tonight), but.....most of the crap signed balls get hit upstairs at the end of the match!!!!


Wouldn't you rather have a player's personal racquet that his sweat and mind goes to rather than a ball with a signature
 

Pocky

Rookie
You know I don't think Arthur Ashe Stadium is big enough. The USTA should have made it bigger so you get more fans in the upper decks so they can fight with each other more. The upper deck fans have to entertain themselves somehow cause you cant see anything that far away from the court.
Arthur Ashe is already big enough, I cannot imagine watching tennis from the very last seat of the stadium, I don't think hitting sound is propagated to the very end
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Arthur Ashe is already big enough, I cannot imagine watching tennis from the very last seat of the stadium, I don't think hitting sound is propagated to the very end

I was being sarcastic. Arthur Ashe stadium is too big and you cant see anything above the luxury boxes. The luxury boxes are only there to fatten the USTA's bank account. Ashe Stadium is the least fan friendly Tennis stadium I have ever been in!
 

LPShanet

Banned
You know I don't think Arthur Ashe Stadium is big enough. The USTA should have made it bigger so you get more fans in the upper decks so they can fight with each other more. The upper deck fans have to entertain themselves somehow cause you cant see anything that far away from the court.

Edit* The above post was sarcasm. Arthur Ashe stadium is too big and you cant see anything above the luxury boxes. The luxury boxes are only there to fatten the USTA's bank account. Ashe Stadium is the least fan friendly Tennis stadium I have ever been in!

+1 for this. Never seen such a bad pro tennis stadium. Arthur Ashe Stadium is an abomination, and it's shameful how proud they are of it. It's like a slap in the face to fans, and the players don't like it much either...much better to have the fans close to the court where you can hear them and they can see you. You know it's bad when $100+ tickets have a poorer view of a match than watching it on TV.

In the end, it's bad for the sport, too, as television has to avoid showing the fact that the prime seats are half empty during all the early round matches, as many of the corporate types don't bother showing up for early round day sessions even though they've paid for them. And they don't let any of the real fans down from their high-altitude exile. They desperately need a system for getting those seats back in the hands (or butts) of actual live people who are attending the match. While they're at it, they might want to stop selling hundreds more grounds passes each year, just so they can state record attendance figures. It's now impossible to get a seat in a decent field court (or even Grandstand) match once it has started.
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
^^^Then work harder and make more money. It's far more attractive than petty envy.

Not harder but smarter. The richest people I know do not work hard at all :)

Well, all those corporate people can buy as many racquets as they would like but they just do not appreciate a good paintjob lol :)
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Ah, the angst of the underclass. Interesting how it's assumed the captains of industry in the courtside seats must know less about the game or equipment than the righteous proletariat.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
Ah, the angst of the underclass. Interesting how it's assumed the captains of industry in the courtside seats must know less about the game or equipment than the righteous proletariat.

it's stated in the "the urban commie handbook"...:)
 

Broccoli

New User
Did anyone else see Andy Roddick throw away his three spare racquets to the crowd after his loss to Tipsarevic??

Would be awesome if someone here on these forums had caught them :)

saw that! *GULP* Does that mean Roddick was so pissed he lost that he wanted to give up tennis? Or he was fed up with Babolat racquets and will soon switch sponsors? :shock:

anyway, joking aside, do you think the fact that he thought it was ok to do that shows that his racquets are close to stock or unmodified, no secrets about them?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
How can you have captains where there's no industry?



Ah, the angst of the underclass. Interesting how it's assumed the captains of industry in the courtside seats must know less about the game or equipment than the righteous proletariat.
 
I'm thinking he was pissed and couldn't care less at that point in time, not that his rackets were not modified....Just my thought though.
 

LPShanet

Banned
saw that! *GULP* Does that mean Roddick was so pissed he lost that he wanted to give up tennis? Or he was fed up with Babolat racquets and will soon switch sponsors? :shock:

anyway, joking aside, do you think the fact that he thought it was ok to do that shows that his racquets are close to stock or unmodified, no secrets about them?

They are close to stock...just not CURRENT stock (nor PDR stock, for that matter). The only real mods made to his PD+ are weight to bring it up to his spec, and a custom handle. The layup is stock for that era (old PD+, not PDR+). To the average fan, there's no way they'd know the difference.
 
^^^Then work harder and make more money. It's far more attractive than petty envy.

Whoa..... how did this thread go from discussing Andy Roddick's racquets to bashing another member's opinion and his/her income? Was that really necessary? :-?
 

Marcus

Semi-Pro
I bet they're retail sticks he has been asked to put in his nag to give away to make people think he's really got cortex under all that overgrip !!!
 

vinnier6

Professional
They are close to stock...just not CURRENT stock (nor PDR stock, for that matter). The only real mods made to his PD+ are weight to bring it up to his spec, and a custom handle. The layup is stock for that era (old PD+, not PDR+). To the average fan, there's no way they'd know the difference.

whatever... you can believe that if you want...a pro like roddick doesnt play with anything you can get your hands on, with the exception of him giving it to you...
 

LPShanet

Banned
whatever... you can believe that if you want...a pro like roddick doesnt play with anything you can get your hands on, with the exception of him giving it to you...

I can believe what I said because I happen know what he plays with, and have held it...which I suppose technically means that I have "gotten my hands on it". For that matter, most of the Babolat pros play with something you can "get your hands on", as long as you have a computer and know the address of that big auction site that ends with "bay". The majority of Babolat players use stock racquets from 2001 to the present, with basic aftermarket mods anyone can do. To say otherwise is to not be familiar with Babolat's Racquets Team program and their lack of a pro room system.

What are you basing your contention on? Your statement seems to imply that every pro (or at least "ones like Roddick", whatever that means) has a magic, secret, private racquet that no one else can get.
 
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Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
whatever... you can believe that if you want...a pro like roddick doesnt play with anything you can get your hands on, with the exception of him giving it to you...

Simply not true. I've some of Roddick's personal frames (GT paint), and as LPShanet has indicated, they are all 1998 Pure Drive + ('Drive Series') with aftermarket modifications: lead at 3 & 9 o'clock, lead at top of handle, custom-molded handle, etc.
 
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Winky

Guest
^^^Then work harder and make more money. It's far more attractive than petty envy.

Right because all it takes to make a lot of money in this society is to work hard! You don't need any connections or luck or a rich family to start ;)
 

couch

Hall of Fame
Right because all it takes to make a lot of money in this society is to work hard! You don't need any connections or luck or a rich family to start ;)


This is the state of our society. Why work hard? It's not going to get me anywhere- poor me. Everybody thinks other people have money because they are lucky, have connections, or were born into it. Yeah, some people have a head start but that doesn't mean you can't work hard and make a good living.

Not sure who said it but I love this quote:

"Hard work guarantees nothing, lack of it does."

Another good one:

"I'd rather work hard and fail than not try at all."
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
This is the state of our society. Why work hard? It's not going to get me anywhere- poor me. Everybody thinks other people have money because they are lucky, have connections, or were born into it. Yeah, some people have a head start but that doesn't mean you can't work hard and make a good living.

Not sure who said it but I love this quote:

"Hard work guarantees nothing, lack of it does."

Another good one:

"I'd rather work hard and fail then not try at all."
One only has to look at President Obama for proof of this. He certainly didn't get a head start in life but worked hard to get where he is today. :)
 
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TennisandMusic

Guest
Right because all it takes to make a lot of money in this society is to work hard! You don't need any connections or luck or a rich family to start ;)

The vast majority of millionaires in the US are first generation. Go read up a bit on the topic and find out the truth. Hard work and frugal living are your tickets to wealth. The losery attitude you're displaying here certainly won't do it.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Right because all it takes to make a lot of money in this society is to work hard! You don't need any connections or luck or a rich family to start ;)
Neither connections nor luck nor being rich is going to get you a 4.0 GPA nor a perfect score on your SAT's. But hard work will.
 

p33ch33

New User
Neither connections nor luck nor being rich is going to get you a 4.0 GPA nor a perfect score on your SAT's. But hard work will.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that George W. Bush worked hard to graduate from Yale and become the President of the United States??
 

DudeBro

Banned
Do you SERIOUSLY believe that George W. Bush worked hard to graduate from Yale and become the President of the United States??

Good grief - this has nothing to do with any of this thread. BP was making a point and your just being a (liberal) troll.
 

p33ch33

New User
Good grief - this has nothing to do with any of this thread. BP was making a point and your just being a (liberal) troll.

Really??? I'm being a troll because I brought up a point about George W. Bush? What about the fact that BreakPoint happened to mention Barack Obama in a thread that has NOTHING to do with politics whatsoever? Why don't you have the guts to call him out as a troll? Because he's a longstanding member that you feel obligated to kowtow to?
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Do you SERIOUSLY believe that George W. Bush worked hard to graduate from Yale and become the President of the United States??
I'm sure he did. In fact, he had a higher GPA than John Kerry did at Yale, so I assume he worked harder than Kerry did.

Oh, and nothing is preventing you from getting into Yale if you work hard and achieve a 4.0 GPA and a perfect SAT score. Anything less is nothing but excuses.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Really??? I'm being a troll because I brought up a point about George W. Bush? What about the fact that BreakPoint happened to mention Barack Obama in a thread that has NOTHING to do with politics whatsoever? Why don't you have the guts to call him out as a troll? Because he's a longstanding member that you feel obligated to kowtow to?
Why does mentioning Barack Obama have to be necessarily about politics? :confused:

I used him as an example of someone who came from a disadvantaged, single-mother household with nothing and achieved something through hard work because everyone knows his name and story. If I used the name Joe Somedude, would anyone know who I was talking about?
 

DudeBro

Banned
Why does mentioning Barack Obama have to be necessarily about politics? :confused:

I used him as an example of someone who came from a disadvantaged, single-mother household with nothing and achieved something through hard work because everyone knows his name and story. If I used the name Joe Somedude, would anyone know who I was talking about?

I understood you point right away- not sure we the other dude wanted to start bashing Bush which is exactly the road he started to go down.
 

p33ch33

New User
I'm sure he did. In fact, he had a higher GPA than John Kerry did at Yale, so I assume he worked harder than Kerry did.

Oh, and nothing is preventing you from getting into Yale if you work hard and achieve a 4.0 GPA and a perfect SAT score. Anything less is nothing but excuses.

So by that rationale you are implying that George W. Bush was more deserving of being the President than John Kerry? That he rose to that position solely on his own merits of hard work and determination? That his family's legacy and wealth had NO INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER on his 'success'?
 

p33ch33

New User
Why does mentioning Barack Obama have to be necessarily about politics? :confused:

I used him as an example of someone who came from a disadvantaged, single-mother household with nothing and achieved something through hard work because everyone knows his name and story. If I used the name Joe Somedude, would anyone know who I was talking about?

Whatever happened to that post by JoelDali about how the Bush family rose to prominence through corruption and cronyism? Did you get one of the moderators here to delete it because he happened to have a valid point and that upset you?
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
So by that rationale you are implying that George W. Bush was more deserving of being the President than John Kerry? That he rose to that position solely on his own merits of hard work and determination? That his family's legacy and wealth had NO INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER on his 'success'?
No, not at all. Quite an imagination you have there. You said he didn't study hard to graduate from Yale. I said, based on their GPA's, he must have studied at least as hard as Kerry did.

Did you get rejected from Yale because you didn't study hard enough to achieve a 4.0 GPA and perfect SAT scores? Or do you just have a love for George W. Bush?

Oh, and I said hard work will get you far in life. I never said the converse is not true. But if you have nothing in life, working hard is a better way to get ahead than just making excuses about other people "advantages".
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Whatever happened to that post by JoelDali about how the Bush family rose to prominence through corruption and cronyism? Did you get one of the moderators here to delete it because he happened to have a valid point and that upset you?
Huh? I never even read such a post. Are you Osama Bin Laden?

Oh, and please stop interjecting politics into this thread!
 

p33ch33

New User
No, not at all. Quite an imagination you have there. You said he didn't study hard to graduate from Yale. I said, based on their GPA's, he must have studied at least as hard as Kerry did.

Did you get rejected from Yale because you didn't study hard enough to achieve a 4.0 GPA and perfect SAT scores? Or do you just have a love for George W. Bush?

Oh, and I said hard work will get you far in life. I never said the converse is not true. But if you have nothing in life, working hard is a better way to get ahead than just making excuses about other people "advantages".

What does a GPA comparison with Kerry have anything to do with my point at all??? How do you know that Bush didn't bribe his way to a higher GPA while Kerry actually worked hard for his? Or that maybe both of them bribed their way through Yale?

Can you guarantee acceptance into Yale with a 4.0 GPA and perfect SAT scores? Do YOU have a profound love for George W. Bush? You do happen to know what his GPA is after all.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
What does a GPA comparison with Kerry have anything to do with my point at all??? How do you know that Bush didn't bribe his way to a higher GPA while Kerry actually worked hard for his? Or that maybe both of them bribed their way through Yale?

Tell us, what kind of connections will get you a perfect SAT score? So you think that everyone who ever got a perfect SAT score got it from their connections and not from studying hard? And, no, you can't bribe your way to a higher GPA. You sound like one of these people who would rather cry "victim!" than lift a finger and work hard.

Can you guarantee acceptance into Yale with a 4.0 GPA and perfect SAT scores? Do YOU have a profound love for George W. Bush? You do happen to know what his GPA is after all.
No, but I can guarantee that you won't get into Yale with a 1.0 GPA and a 300 SAT score. So it's better to study hard than to make excuses, isn't it?
 
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