Gamma T-Seven Grommets

verbouge

Rookie
First, an APB for grommets for my racquet of choice. I've looked high and low, up and down, here and there, for this Holy Grail of an item, and have come up with nothing. Other Gamma grommets are available, just not the T-Seven's (or T-7, as people say here).

I had an email exchange with a vendor claiming to have the largest inventory of discontinued grommets available. His reply to my inquiry? Gamma only makes a set number of grommet replacements for each production run of a racquet. Once they've blown through them, there are no more to be had. He stated that this alone is a good reason not to buy Gamma racquets. And y'know? I'm inclined to agree with him.

I LOVE my T-7's. I stumbled upon them during a Quixotic search for a new stick after my old ones became worn and finally obsolete. They've been wonderful in every way so far. Presently, I'm interested in passing the Master Racquet Technician exam, and to do that you need to install grommets in a racquet. Makes sense. Why not use my own (two of which need grommet sets, by the way)? That makes sense, too. Great, so order them. Oops.....not to be found. Anywhere. Makes no sense!

My guess is that the T-7 was a bigger success than Gamma had expected, and that they blew right through their replacement grommet/head guards. I've emailed them, but have not received a response. My question is this: what reputable racquet manufacturer does not provide this most basic service to its customers? It's not like they can cost all that much to manufacture or store, right? If they can't or won't do this, then they apparently aren't ready to swing with the Big Monkeys.

I love my T-7's, and will use them a while until it's time to find something else. However, I will not buy another Gamma, nor recommend one to my customers and friends, until this company acts like a company that is serious about what it does.

Grommets are a basic need, like oil changes are to a car. You may not change the oil in a Yugo all that often (am I dating myself?), but you will in a Mercedes Benz. These are Mercedes Benz sticks. Where's the service that goes with them?

Dave

PS: GRRRRRR!
 

mdjenders

Professional
i feel your pain.... some of the very small brands make fine sticks, but lack of grommet availability is a major no-no.
 

TripleB

Hall of Fame
That's one of the reasons I stopped using the T-7. I really loved the racquet but no grommets are available for this racquet so if something happened to the grommets the racquet became useless.

I called Gamma and they confirmed that they do not have any grommet sets for the T-7 and none are available.

So I moved on, never to buy another new Gamma racquet again.

TripleB
 

verbouge

Rookie
That's one of the reasons I stopped using the T-7. I really loved the racquet but no grommets are available for this racquet so if something happened to the grommets the racquet became useless.

I called Gamma and they confirmed that they do not have any grommet sets for the T-7 and none are available.

So I moved on, never to buy another new Gamma racquet again.

TripleB

Wow. Why would they have sets for the T-5 and T-6, but not for the T-7? That makes no sense whatosoever. It seems completely irresponsible.

A " major no no". Exactly.
 

Al1978

Rookie
I too might have kept my T-Sevens, and bought several more, if grommets were still available. It's a tremendous frame, with a nice combination of a mid-plus head size, very low stiffness and medium stock weight ideal for customizing. Spec-wise, I can't think of anything comparable, but the Pacific X Force comes closest as a very flexible, lighter weight, low-powered frame.
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
Funny you should bring up Gamma grommets. A spec-hunt led me to the Gamma T-Seven and the G310 (same grommets, AFAIK). The inavailability of grommets was a deal-killer, so I picked up a couple of Diablo MP's instead.

Someone in another thread mentioned the possibility that Gamma would make something else in the G310/T7 mold in the future and that grommets would then become available. It does seem like a reasonable hope.
 

russell

Semi-Pro
In an effort to bring back the grommets for this legendary frame I took the liberty of starting an online petition at ipetitions.com/petition/t7/ I forwarded this to the Gamma headquarters. With enough signatures and a bit of luck we can bring back the grommets. Keep the signatures flowing.
 

TripleB

Hall of Fame
Too late for me...I've got my Prince Ozone Tours now...much better racquet and I've already got 3 sets of extra grommets that contain both the hard and soft grommets.

TripleB
 

verbouge

Rookie
In an effort to bring back the grommets for this legendary frame I took the liberty of starting an online petition at ipetitions.com/petition/t7/ I forwarded this to the Gamma headquarters. With enough signatures and a bit of luck we can bring back the grommets. Keep the signatures flowing.


Strong work, Russ.
 

verbouge

Rookie
In an effort to bring back the grommets for this legendary frame I took the liberty of starting an online petition at ipetitions.com/petition/t7/ I forwarded this to the Gamma headquarters. With enough signatures and a bit of luck we can bring back the grommets. Keep the signatures flowing.


Strong work, Russ.
 

verbouge

Rookie
Just Ordered 4 SETS of T-Seven Grommets!

Unbelievable! I sent an email to Gamma over the weekend inquiring about this glaring oversight on their part. I also mentioned that I would post my dissatisfaction with this lack of basic customer service on TW if it was true that these grommets are not available. It's not like this affects their business in a big way (or does it?), but at least the rest of you all would know about it and be able to chime in, too.

So I got an email yesterday from Chuck Vietmeier at Gamma Sports stating that the T-Seven Grommets are available at ATS Sports 1-800-866-7071. They weren't listed when I scoured their website just a couple of days ago. However, I just called, just now, and ordered four sets for $4.99 a piece. The nice gal was kind enough to tell me they had about 30 of them, so if any of you are Jones-in' for some very hard to find grommets, now's your chance.

They may be old 310 grommets or....who knows? I don't really care, as long as they're available and they work. I would hope that Gamma learns from this, and supports its future frames and the people who use and love them. Even the few replies on this thread revealed a number of people who no longer use the fantastic T-Seven because of this basic oversight, and that's really too bad.

Oh well, happy ending for this guy, and hopefully for a number of you all!

Dave
 

russell

Semi-Pro
Great news! I also got word from the mothership informing me that they are available from ATS Sports if you call in. Sounds like they were able to scrounge up a few sets before they're gone for good. Folks, get 'em while they're hot! Limited-supply & time offer here!

I emailed ATS Sports in the past and they told me that they didn't carry any of the G310/T-7 grommets any longer. When I was looking for them a few months ago and called in, the folks at ATS Sports said that the only option would be to resort to Fittex grommets.
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
Too late for me...I've got my Prince Ozone Tours now...much better racquet and I've already got 3 sets of extra grommets that contain both the hard and soft grommets.

TripleB

I'm interested to know why you feel the Prince Ozone Tour is a much better racquet?

I used to use the T-7 and really liked it a lot. I switched (somewhat arbitrarily) to the Fischer Pro One 98, which is similar, but I've had thoughts of going back to the T-7. However, I wouldn't really want to if grommet sets are hard to get.

The Prince Ozone Tour has similar specs, but it appears stiffer. Do you find it plays just as flexible? Is it because of the O holes or whatever they're called that you get a soft/ball-pockety feel?

Anything in particular you can offer as to why you felt the move from T-7 to Ozone Tour was a good one for you?

One issue for me is that I don't want to spend a lot if I switch racquets. My Fischers are only worth so much, and that Ozone Tour isn't nearly as cheap as the T-7.
 

TripleB

Hall of Fame
I'm interested to know why you feel the Prince Ozone Tour is a much better racquet?

To me the Ozone Tour offers a softer feel (currently having elbow problems so this is a plus), much more spin, better control (especially depth control), more power, and the balance is much more to my liking (a bit more headlight). The only area where the T-7 might be slightly better is touch volleys because of the more raw feel...but I'm quickly learning how to pull off the same shots with the Ozone Tour.


The Prince Ozone Tour has similar specs, but it appears stiffer. Do you find it plays just as flexible? Is it because of the O holes or whatever they're called that you get a soft/ball-pockety feel?

The Ozone Tour plays slightly stiffer but definitely not very much stiffer. I think the O holes give the racquet a softer feel which makes it feel a bit more flexible than you would think. The 60 flex is probably spot on for the flex of the Ozone Tour. Yes, I would say the O3 holes offer the pockety feel...the O3 White I playtested had the same soft feel.

Anything in particular you can offer as to why you felt the move from T-7 to Ozone Tour was a good one for you?

Bigger groundstrokes, bigger kick on second serves, better control, HUGE improvement volleying (aside from the touch volleys), fast first serves, better maneuverability, and I play better with it than the T-7.

Hope this helps.

TripleB
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
Hope this helps.

TripleB

Man... you've got me tempted to demo this. My biggest fear is that I will like it, and then I'm screwed (I can hear my wife now "You're changing racquets AGAIN? You JUST bought those 4 Fischer racquets!"
 

snoopy

Professional
Awesome job notifying us about the grommets!!!

I am really digging the T-7. In the 7 years I've been playing tennis I haven't found another frame that has the T-7's combination of moderate weight, low swing weight, flex, and stable feel. After slapping a little lead on the head, it's darn near perfect.



TripleB, I'm glad you found a frame you like. The Ozone Tour MP is a really good frame. Nice pop, tremendous spin potential, and huge sweetspot. The port/ozone feel is the one thing that turned me off. But perhaps I didn't give it enough time. I know a high school player that hits with it and he's got great consistent, spinny groundstrokes.
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
Awesome job notifying us about the grommets!!!

I am really digging the T-7. In the 7 years I've been playing tennis I haven't found another frame that has the T-7's combination of moderate weight, low swing weight, flex, and stable feel. After slapping a little lead on the head, it's darn near perfect.



TripleB, I'm glad you found a frame you like. The Ozone Tour MP is a really good frame. Nice pop, tremendous spin potential, and huge sweetspot. The port/ozone feel is the one thing that turned me off. But perhaps I didn't give it enough time. I know a high school player that hits with it and he's got great consistent, spinny groundstrokes.

Ugh... I'm almost tempted to go back to the T-7.

If there were an award for inability to make up one's mind, I would compete seriously for it (along with, I'm sure, many other racquetoholics on this board).
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
If there were an award for inability to make up one's mind, I would compete seriously for it (along with, I'm sure, many other racquetoholics on this board).
Same here. In fact, if someone had been standing here going "Psst... Hey buddy... want a good deal on some Ozone Tours?" while I was reading Triple B's post, I would have made a quick unit turn with my wallet.
 

TripleB

Hall of Fame
TripleB, I'm glad you found a frame you like. The Ozone Tour MP is a really good frame. Nice pop, tremendous spin potential, and huge sweetspot. The port/ozone feel is the one thing that turned me off. But perhaps I didn't give it enough time. I know a high school player that hits with it and he's got great consistent, spinny groundstrokes.

Thanks...it took a long time with a lot of demoing it to find it. Funny, when I playtested the O3 White I really didn't like the feel of the O Ports either. I typically like a more crisp feel when I'm hitting the ball. For that reason alone I stayed away from any of the O racquets. I wouldn't have playtested the Ozone Tour if TW hadn't been out of another demo I wanted to try.

After the second time out I just fell in love with the balance/spin/power/control it offered...and that's when the demo had Prince Synthetic Gut in it. I love my three racquets even more than the demo: have TurboTwist in the mains and they are a bit more headlight than the demo was...love them more each time out.

TripleB
 

verbouge

Rookie
Interesting how this thread has taken a turn to racket preference (is it declasse to spell it "racket" instead of "racquet"?). But the original unavailability of grommets makes one think in almost existential terms of racket happiness.

TripleB is great in that he's tried lots of frames, listened to his body in spite of what his mind told him, and found an unexpected stick that works for him. I went through the exact same thing looking for the T-Seven, and will do it again when it's time to change again--a while from now, hopefully.

Sstchr (is that for "social sciences teacher" or something like that????), I personally think--since you didn't ask ;-)--that the best thing for a tennis player to do is explore equipment options, find what works for you, and stick with it for a good while. It's a trap and a crazy train to keep going from racket to racket, thinking that if you only had "that" one you'd be the player you want to be. When you stick with one frame, then you can focus on the most important thing that affects your game, yourself, and take the equipment out of the equation.

It's easy to say that kind of stuff, but I know how it is. Having a stringer opens up the ultimate crazy train.....but still, even with strings, it's best to decide and stick with something for a while so the focus is on your game and not your equipment.

Dos centavos.

Dave
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
Interesting how this thread has taken a turn to racket preference (is it declasse to spell it "racket" instead of "racquet"?). But the original unavailability of grommets makes one think in almost existential terms of racket happiness.

TripleB is great in that he's tried lots of frames, listened to his body in spite of what his mind told him, and found an unexpected stick that works for him. I went through the exact same thing looking for the T-Seven, and will do it again when it's time to change again--a while from now, hopefully.

Sstchr (is that for "social sciences teacher" or something like that????), I personally think--since you didn't ask ;-)--that the best thing for a tennis player to do is explore equipment options, find what works for you, and stick with it for a good while. It's a trap and a crazy train to keep going from racket to racket, thinking that if you only had "that" one you'd be the player you want to be. When you stick with one frame, then you can focus on the most important thing that affects your game, yourself, and take the equipment out of the equation.

It's easy to say that kind of stuff, but I know how it is. Having a stringer opens up the ultimate crazy train.....but still, even with strings, it's best to decide and stick with something for a while so the focus is on your game and not your equipment.

Dos centavos.

Dave

Yes, it's true. I should just quite fussing with racquets and lead and grips and strings and do more practicing.

What can I say. I like, many others on the forums, suffer from racquetoholism.

I'm honestly not sure why I got rid of my T-7s. I played some of my best tennis with them. But I think I went through a rut and decided it was the racquet's fault (silly -- it's always operator error).

But presently, I'm trying to see if I might find happiness in something other than my Fischers because my shoulder is really hurting. Long story short -- been to doctors and specialists and PT. None of it really helped.

I theorize that maybe the Fischer's swing weight is a bit too high for my deteriorating shoulder, though I have no proof.

Anyway... not sure what I will end up doing.

Oh, and by the way, sstchur isn't a cryptic alias (and funny, you're not the first person to guess that it something to do with "teacher"), but the explanation is super simple.

My name, is Stephen Stchur :)

"Stchur" is one syllable (like the 2nd part of the word "pasture")
 

verbouge

Rookie
That is so funny, Steven! Our paths have crossed quite a bit on these boards, and for the life of me I've thought of your online handle as unpronounceable. Now it makes sense and is pronounceable, but it's still an unusual name. I FINALLY have a sound to play in my head when I read your name, instead of something that makes no sense, like the symbol for The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.

Bummer about your shoulder. The first question that comes to mind in this country is, "Do you have health insurance?" I work in the medical field, in the operating room for many, many years. I'm intimately familiar with shoulder ailments and many of their treatments. You may benefit from the loving touch of an orthopedic surgeon, since it sounds like the conservative route has not worked out too well for you. I've had a major shoulder surgery in my life, so I know what it's about from a giving and a receiving end. Not saying you need surgery, but it may be time to talk to an orthopedist who can further advise you on what to do next.

I still stand by my racket/equipment statements. Too bad you got rid of your T-Sevens..........

Take care,
Dave in Oregon
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
That is so funny, Steven! Our paths have crossed quite a bit on these boards, and for the life of me I've thought of your online handle as unpronounceable. Now it makes sense and is pronounceable, but it's still an unusual name. I FINALLY have a sound to play in my head when I read your name, instead of something that makes no sense, like the symbol for The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.

Bummer about your shoulder. The first question that comes to mind in this country is, "Do you have health insurance?" I work in the medical field, in the operating room for many, many years. I'm intimately familiar with shoulder ailments and many of their treatments. You may benefit from the loving touch of an orthopedic surgeon, since it sounds like the conservative route has not worked out too well for you. I've had a major shoulder surgery in my life, so I know what it's about from a giving and a receiving end. Not saying you need surgery, but it may be time to talk to an orthopedist who can further advise you on what to do next.

I still stand by my racket/equipment statements. Too bad you got rid of your T-Sevens..........

Take care,
Dave in Oregon

Yeah, it's funny because to me, my username has always made perfect sense and was very pronounceable (s-stchur), and it rarely ever crosses my mind that to others it probably just looks like a jumble of letters without enough vowels.

Yeah, it's odd. I'm in my early 30s. I have good technical form (learned as a kid, but played off an on). Took several years off after high school, and got back into about 2 years ago.

At first, I had some odd elbow pain which multiple physical therapists determined was NOT tennis elbow. It didn't feel like it either (it was a burning/numbing sensation that went from my elbow to my pinky finger). PT treatments did nothing.

I got tired of going to PT when all I really wanted to do was play tennis. So I quit PT, played through the pain and ignored it for the most part.

Then one day I realized that it hadn't hurt in a long time. It just went away. I have no idea what changed.

I was using my T-7 all the while by the way.

Then, about 6 months or so after that pain went away, I arbitrarily decided I needed a new racquet.

Enter the Fischers. About 3 months after getting those, I started getting this shoulder pain.

I did see an orthopedist. He said something about the labrum and I don't remember what else (I think the word "deteriorating" was used). He basically said "if it isn't impeding everyday life, then surgery probably isn't worth it. Try some PT."

I did, and it didn't help, and like last time, I don't like using my tennis time for PT.

The pain is manageable if I don't play too many days in a row. If I do, then my movement is severely limited and my shoulder almost burns (like it is inflamed or something). So I'm forced to rest.

Don't know if it has anything to do with the Fischers, but it's a good excuse to look for a new racquet, right :)

The hardest part (if I switch racquets) is convincing my wife that I can do it without wasting a bunch of money.

Where in Oregon are you from? A few friends of mine on a USTA mixed team are in Bend Oregon this weekend for Sectionals.
 

verbouge

Rookie
Yeah, it's funny because to me, my username has always made perfect sense and was very pronounceable (s-stchur), and it rarely ever crosses my mind that to others it probably just looks like a jumble of letters without enough vowels.

Yeah, it's odd. I'm in my early 30s. I have good technical form (learned as a kid, but played off an on). Took several years off after high school, and got back into about 2 years ago.

At first, I had some odd elbow pain which multiple physical therapists determined was NOT tennis elbow. It didn't feel like it either (it was a burning/numbing sensation that went from my elbow to my pinky finger). PT treatments did nothing.

I got tired of going to PT when all I really wanted to do was play tennis. So I quit PT, played through the pain and ignored it for the most part.

Then one day I realized that it hadn't hurt in a long time. It just went away. I have no idea what changed.

I was using my T-7 all the while by the way.

Then, about 6 months or so after that pain went away, I arbitrarily decided I needed a new racquet.

Enter the Fischers. About 3 months after getting those, I started getting this shoulder pain.

I did see an orthopedist. He said something about the labrum and I don't remember what else (I think the word "deteriorating" was used). He basically said "if it isn't impeding everyday life, then surgery probably isn't worth it. Try some PT."

I did, and it didn't help, and like last time, I don't like using my tennis time for PT.

The pain is manageable if I don't play too many days in a row. If I do, then my movement is severely limited and my shoulder almost burns (like it is inflamed or something). So I'm forced to rest.

Don't know if it has anything to do with the Fischers, but it's a good excuse to look for a new racquet, right :)

The hardest part (if I switch racquets) is convincing my wife that I can do it without wasting a bunch of money.

Where in Oregon are you from? A few friends of mine on a USTA mixed team are in Bend Oregon this weekend for Sectionals.

I'm in Newberg, southwest of Portland by 20 or so miles. I still don't know what to tell you about your shoulder. It could be the racket. Y'know, my Gamma guy down here can get them very cheap right now. You may be able to rustle up someone there who can do the same thing. I also found them on the auction website a couple of years ago. Look up g o l d c i t y s p o r t s and see if there are any still available. Very reasonable and responsive person to deal with on the other end.

If ever you're down this way, I can show you my beautiful Stringway ML 100 T92 and maybe even string a racket up for you using techniques I've learned here and elsewhere. For free, of course.

Keep me posted on the T-Sevens and the shoulder. I hope your condition improves, like it did with the elbow.

Dave
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
I'm in Newberg, southwest of Portland by 20 or so miles. I still don't know what to tell you about your shoulder. It could be the racket. Y'know, my Gamma guy down here can get them very cheap right now. You may be able to rustle up someone there who can do the same thing. I also found them on the auction website a couple of years ago. Look up g o l d c i t y s p o r t s and see if there are any still available. Very reasonable and responsive person to deal with on the other end.

If ever you're down this way, I can show you my beautiful Stringway ML 100 T92 and maybe even string a racket up for you using techniques I've learned here and elsewhere. For free, of course.

Keep me posted on the T-Sevens and the shoulder. I hope your condition improves, like it did with the elbow.

Dave

You know, as I'm looking through TW and the racquet finder, I'm looking for certain specs, and the T-7 really does still fit the bill nicely.

What I want is:

Thin beam: ideally 18 or 19mm, but 20 or possibly even 21 could work
Low flex rating: Something under 62, I think
Low(ish) swing weight: 320 or lower

The T-7 fits that nicely.
So does the Ipex 7 which I've never tried. I think another poster on here, meowmix, used to use not -- not sure about currently though.

We'll see...
 

verbouge

Rookie
You know, as I'm looking through TW and the racquet finder, I'm looking for certain specs, and the T-7 really does still fit the bill nicely.

What I want is:

Thin beam: ideally 18 or 19mm, but 20 or possibly even 21 could work
Low flex rating: Something under 62, I think
Low(ish) swing weight: 320 or lower

The T-7 fits that nicely.
So does the Ipex 7 which I've never tried. I think another poster on here, meowmix, used to use not -- not sure about currently though.

We'll see...

Well, you've had it before. I guess the simple question, aside from the specs is, did you like it? Would you be able to get your hands on another one to demo and see if you still do? Your body knows better than your head what works. Specs are one thing, but feel is everything. I have four of them, and plan on keeping it that way, but I would be happy to loan one out if it could be arranged. A weekend trip to the Portland area? Just a thought......
 

sstchur

Hall of Fame
Well, you've had it before. I guess the simple question, aside from the specs is, did you like it? Would you be able to get your hands on another one to demo and see if you still do? Your body knows better than your head what works. Specs are one thing, but feel is everything. I have four of them, and plan on keeping it that way, but I would be happy to loan one out if it could be arranged. A weekend trip to the Portland area? Just a thought......

Certainly appreciate the offer. I'd take you up on it if I were ever in the Portland area. I was there once a few years back for a wedding, but my wife and I have been back since.

I have a good buddy who I do a lot of stringing for who just upgraded his old Yonex frames to those new red Yonex frames that Hewitt and Nalbandian use.

I asked if I could borrow his old Yonex RDX 500s, and he replied "you can have them."

I think I will take him up on that! At least give them a shot. The RDX 500 also meets all my criteria and has a bit of a thinner beam even than the T-7.

However, if they don't work out, I might consider trying to get my hands on a used T-7 again. Does TW not demo them anymore?

-Steve
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
Interesting how this thread has taken a turn to racket preference (is it declasse to spell it "racket" instead of "racquet"?).
I've heard that the term "racket" is used nowadays exclusively to describe racquets made for retail by the largest global companies. :p

I've heard too that the term "déclassé" has pulled such heavy duty in descriptions of the General Pro Player Discussion subforum that it is no longer available for use in any of the other subfora.
 

verbouge

Rookie
I've heard that the term "racket" is used nowadays exclusively to describe racquets made for retail by the largest global companies. :p

I've heard too that the term "déclassé" has pulled such heavy duty in descriptions of the General Pro Player Discussion subforum that it is no longer available for use in any of the other subfora.

Being a goofball is your racket. Declasse you ain't, you subfor-animal.
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
Being a goofball is your racket. Declasse you ain't, you subfor-animal.
It's so horribly true. The Inner Goofball arises and takes over, its grinning visage masking a subtle hostility to a world that has never given me any RDX-500's.

Good news that there are a few grommets available for T-7's. The information makes my Tour Diablos suddenly seem a little stiffer than they need to be, and it renews my curiosity about the feel of the T-7's. (For me too feel is the priority, once head size and stiffness are accounted for and lead tape is purchased, and not least because it is so difficult to communicate to others.)

I realize it is regarded as comfortable and that the comfort is attributed to its flex, but where would any users still around place it on a spectrum running from [raw/giving a lot of feedback] to [damped/muted/very little apparent vibration]? Comparisons to the feel of other racquets would be most welcome.
 
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verbouge

Rookie
It's so horribly true. The Inner Goofball arises and takes over, its grinning visage masking a subtle hostility to a world that has never given me any RDX-500's.

Good news that there are a few grommets available for T-7's. The information makes my Tour Diablos suddenly seem a little stiffer than they need to be, and it renews my curiosity about the feel of the T-7's. (For me too feel is the priority, once head size and stiffness are accounted for and lead tape is purchased, and not least because it is so difficult to communicate to others.)

I realize it is regarded as comfortable and that the comfort is attributed to its flex, but where would any users still around place it on a spectrum running from [raw/giving a lot of feedback] to [damped/muted/very little apparent vibration]? Comparisons to the feel of other racquets would be most welcome.

Goofball to goofball being serious for a bit. I think you've just got to try one and see what YOU think. That may be easier said than done. If it helps, I've always gravitated toward "plush" feeling rackets, meaning flexible and forgiving, almost like hitting the ball with velvet (sometimes very, very aggressive velvet!). I suppose between your two sets of descriptors I'd have to call it more damped/muted/very little apparent vibration. It's a 57 on the Babolat RDC thingy, which feels pretty accurate to me.

While playtesting lots of sticks before finding this one, I found the Fischer models to be similar in feel, but without quite the ability to drive through the ball that the T-Seven has. They were TOO flexible, although comfortable to hit with.

This may be a long shot, but if you've ever hit with the Donnay model that Agassi used as a very young, fake-haired pro, it feels very very similar to that. And hey, Agassi was pretty good, right? I had a chance to hit with those two rackets back to back one night. The Donnay was exotic, cool, and played surprisingly well, but I much preferred the T-Seven. I STILL love these things. A little lead tape at 10 and 2, and they're good to go!

This probably doesn't help at all, huh.

Dave
 

roundiesee

Hall of Fame
Guys, so is it still worth it to get the T-sevens from TW? I think they're about 89 dollars but only come as 5/8 grips :( Will TW help customers get some grommets from the other shop mentioned in this thread?
 

verbouge

Rookie
Guys, so is it still worth it to get the T-sevens from TW? I think they're about 89 dollars but only come as 5/8 grips :( Will TW help customers get some grommets from the other shop mentioned in this thread?

If that's all TW has, you may have better luck if you poke around on your keyboard a bit. I don't know for sure, but it's worth a try.

As far as the head guards go, they're most likely available for a very short time from ATS Sports. Just have to look online and call the number.

I know Gamma has launched a new line, but it seems like a mistake to discontinue a racquet that is so popular.

Good luck.
 

gd!

Rookie
T-7 Grommets

Just read this thread yesterday, sent mail to ATS but no response so far...maybe because I am from Europe?

If anybody could help me out, advice on order opportunity...PayPal, MasterCard no issue...

br gd!
 

gd!

Rookie
By the way, frame beam of T-7 is exactly 21 mm, measured with digital caliper gauge.

gd!
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
At a glance it sure looks like the same mold.

But only two grip sizes, 1/4 and 3/8?
Those are the standard grip sizes in Japan.

That Toalson looks nice; braided graphite evokes for me a feeling of no-nonsense quality, even if I don't always like the feeling of every braided graphite racquet. It is listed as 20.5 beam width, while the T-7 is listed as 20 and seems to measure 21, so variation between engineering and marketing still allow for the possibility of their being the same mold. Maybe that Toalson is the Japanese Gamma G310. Is there a known business relationship between the two companies?
 

DEH

Rookie
Those are the standard grip sizes in Japan.

That Toalson looks nice; braided graphite evokes for me a feeling of no-nonsense quality, even if I don't always like the feeling of every braided graphite racquet. It is listed as 20.5 beam width, while the T-7 is listed as 20 and seems to measure 21, so variation between engineering and marketing still allow for the possibility of their being the same mold. Maybe that Toalson is the Japanese Gamma G310. Is there a known business relationship between the two companies?

Yes, look at the Toalson line of strings.
 

russell

Semi-Pro
I spoke to the people at Gamma and I'm elated to report that there are more grommets on order for the T-7 that will be produced by a new factory that should be available within a few weeks. Thanks to the fine folks at Gamma for listening to our battle cries and making things right. Long live the T-7!
 

snoopy

Professional
Cool.

Now lets start bugging Gamma about giving the T-7 a nicer paintjob and offering an extended 27.5 inch version. Ok, I might be getting a little greedy. :razz:
 

verbouge

Rookie
I spoke to the people at Gamma and I'm elated to report that there are more grommets on order for the T-7 that will be produced by a new factory that should be available within a few weeks. Thanks to the fine folks at Gamma for listening to our battle cries and making things right. Long live the T-7!

Unbelievable! Y'know, you get the feeling that this company, which has produced some fine racquets through the years, does not have to fly under the radar and rely on a cult audience if it would just step up to the plate and BEHAVE like the premier producer a good number of us believe it to be.

Thank you, Gamma guys and dolls, for the fine racquets, and for listening!

Cool.

Now lets start bugging Gamma about giving the T-7 a nicer paintjob and offering an extended 27.5 inch version. Ok, I might be getting a little greedy. :razz:

I LIKE the paint job on the T-7, but hey, to each their own. As far as an extended version goes, why not ask? That's another of those things that the big names offer. Why not Gamma, too??
 

gd!

Rookie
I like that paint job, too. Curious to see if they will start another grommet production for discontinued racquet. Anyway, existing grommets should rely on same quality used for original T-7 isn't it.
We'll see.
 
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