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That could be why mamba recommends 54/52 with gut/iontec hybrid
Where did you find that?
That could be why mamba recommends 54/52 with gut/iontec hybrid
Aprreciate the review, but I think ANY gut review needs to be in comparison to the benchmark gut, VS (or Wilson). If you are comparing power levels and comfort between two lower shelf guts there's still not much for me to learn from that without referencing the "control" string. You owe it to yourself to splurge at least once on the good stuff just so you know for yourself too.
When I switched to gut I started with VS so I'd have that reference point for when I tried others.
How narcissistic is this post? The world of natural gut revolves around your experiences?
Aprreciate the review, but I think ANY gut review needs to be in comparison to the benchmark gut, VS (or Wilson). If you are comparing power levels and comfort between two lower shelf guts there's still not much for me to learn from that without referencing the "control" string. You owe it to yourself to splurge at least once on the good stuff just so you know for yourself too.
When I switched to gut I started with VS so I'd have that reference point for when I tried others.
Oh I'm sure that the big boys gut are of finer quality. But I think all of that only applies to the stringing part. For me, once they're on the frame, cow collagen is cow collagen no matter how you brand it.
And for $15, it plays perfectly for me.
but wait, you started this topic saying "these strings are stupid powerful to me. Way more powerful than the Gaucho stuff". So you have already acknowledged a major difference between two differnt gut strings!
Anyone know if Mamba Premium Nat Gut can be strung at 60 without snapping?
Haha, you got me there.
All I'm saying is, cow collagen are more or less the same. I'm not at the point in my life where I can spend the extra $20-30 on quality processing.
To me, if cheap gut survives the stringing process, then it's going to play like gut.
Where's Torres?
Mamba Premium Natural Gut (MPNG)16/Mamba Iontec 1.20, 52/46.
As the cross, Mamba Iontec plays really good, soft and comfortable. All is well with the world. The sun is out and the birds are chirping. Even if you have to play bare foot, it still wouldn't phase you because the MPNG/Mamba Iontec hybrid is just fantastic. Then, on the 1000th stroke, your world collapses. The sky darkens, the warm sun is now gone and replaced by endless fog. The chirping birds have been replaced with red eyed ravens. The smooth ground has suddenly turned into inferno spikes. After ~12 hours, all signs point to the dramatic demise of Iontec.
I have never played with a string that dies so suddenly and dramatically. They were in the crosses so their death shouldn't contribute THAT much. I've tried various polys and multi's in the crosses, and I'm sure I've played with dead crosses before, but none of them were severe enough for me to even notice. I can't imagine how these play on a full bed or even as a main.
It plays nice and soft like Polystar Energy, except Polystar Energy goes longer and its death is not as dramatic.
Maybe poly just isn't for me. I know the pros use it, but they only need it to last 2-3 hours, and my arm typically notices the deadness at around the 3-5 hour mark. If you say it's the tension setting, I tried MSV Focus Hex full bed at 35# and it also died in the same timeframe. If anyone finds a poly that lasts a good 10 hours without dying, I want to know. I still haven't found it yet.
If you believe in the benefits of polys, I'd suggest Polystar Energy and MSV Co-Focus. They're awesome.
If you believe in the benefits of polys, I'd suggest Polystar Energy and MSV Co-Focus. They're awesome.
You also might want to give Solinco Outlast a try as a cross with gut. Of all the polys I've tried, Outlast plays the most consistant throughout the life of the string. I've never wanted to cut it out and string up a fresh cross like I sometimes do with CO-focus. I'm at 26.5 hrs with one Wilson NG/Outlast set up, and it feels almost exactly the same as another frame with Klip Legend uncoated/Outlast that just have 6 hrs.
You also might want to give Solinco Outlast a try as a cross with gut. Of all the polys I've tried, Outlast plays the most consistant throughout the life of the string. I've never wanted to cut it out and string up a fresh cross like I sometimes do with CO-focus. I'm at 26.5 hrs with one Wilson NG/Outlast set up, and it feels almost exactly the same as another frame with Klip Legend uncoated/Outlast that just have 6 hrs.
If you didn't like SPPP, you probably won't like Outlast either.
How is the softness/comfort with Solinco Outlast? I need the hybrid to be pillowy-soft, which is what Polystar Energy and MSV Co-Focus provided .
Wow, am I the only one that try this string as full bed? All the reviews are in hybrids. :shock:
Everyone worries about the power of gut. The key is to blast your opponent off the court with your serve and then steal one break per set.
With the full bed of natural gut, its ball reflection angle is very different
from synthetics. Therefore, you will need to adjust your swing path.
That's the main reason why people tend to hit long when they hit with
nat gut 1st time.
I think the key is to swing faster to take advantage of the power, and turn it into spin.
I didn't have a problem when I made the switch from syn gut/multi to gut. If anything I was like: "WOW, why do people complain about tennis elbows?"
tried mamba gut at main 54lbs and ith @ cross 52lbs. feels board to me.
Interesting. Many cannot tell much difference except color.disagree. I hated SPPP, but outlast has become my favorite cross.
tried mamba gut at main 54lbs and ith @ cross 52lbs. feels board to me.
It could be the result of tight polys in the crosses.
The premium gut? According to Ray the premium is a stiffer gut compared to their supra, which is also the gut Mamba recommends to string at 54/52 with a iontec or o-power cross.
He was a victim of LTS (L-Tec Syndrome)Where's Torres?
He was a victim of LTS (L-Tec Syndrome)
Shipped off to Siberia.
Just went too far.
Sad, really. He had some good insights.
He is back . Just not on the strings forum.
Ooh. You did a short gig in Siberia, yourself.
Welcome back.
He Who Must Not Be Named hasn't posted in almost 2 weeks.
"I am afraid I do not have any more right now. I am fighting with our supplier over some consistency issues in our latest batch (which you must have run into) and their desire to raise prices AGAIN."
Ray is apparently having issues with the supplier for the mamba string.
From an email with him regarding the SUPRA, which may or may not affect their premium gut sales
"I am afraid I do not have any more right now. I am fighting with our supplier over some consistency issues in our latest batch (which you must have run into) and their desire to raise prices AGAIN."
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Ray is apparently having issues with the supplier for the mamba string.
From an email with him regarding the SUPRA, which may or may not affect their premium gut sales -
Bummr to see I bought 2 sets though..lol. Oh well, I think I'll stay with the pacific classic
Oh you fancy...
Haha, you got me there.
All I'm saying is, cow collagen are more or less the same. I'm not at the point in my life where I don't want to spend the extra $20-30 on quality processing.
To me, if cheap gut survives the stringing process, then it's going to play like gut.
EDITED FOR typo
Gut is a gut is a gut.
Mamba Supra Nat. gut is Sheep gut. So is that the same as Cow gut used by the majority of the quality gut makers?
Also can Mamba gut be strung in the mid 60lb. range like many of my gut clients as well as myself?