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Thanks to Federerkooora (whoever he/she is) for posting this video on the tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDBh0s1-_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDBh0s1-_E
Nice video. Ralston was a heckuva player. His comment re the three toughest players he faced is interesting."My 3 toughest opponents, I'd have to say, probably, Roy Emerson, uh, Ken Rosewall and, uh, Lew Hoad." -- Dennis Ralston
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTha8_RrJlI
"My 3 toughest opponents, I'd have to say, probably, Roy Emerson, uh, Ken Rosewall and, uh, Lew Hoad." -- Dennis Ralston
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTha8_RrJlI
Should be in reverse order. All three fast as cats around the court.
"My 3 toughest opponents, I'd have to say, probably, Roy Emerson, uh, Ken Rosewall and, uh, Lew Hoad." -- Dennis Ralston
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTha8_RrJlI
Young Ralston was called Dennis the ******, because he was sanctioned once by the US federation for attacking referees and linesmen. He was one of those dangerous players i miss in todays game. Players out of the range of ranking place 8-16, who were a nightmare for favorites in the last sixteen or last eight, but were not able to string seven wins together to win the whole major. Players who played better against better players than against lesser ones. And who had the nerves to get through the upset wins. I think for instance of Barry Mackay, Marty Riessen, Roger Taylor, Roscoe Tanner, Tim Mayotte, Joakim Nystrom, Larsson, Brad Gilbert.
Young Ralston was called Dennis the ******, because he was sanctioned once by the US federation for attacking referees and linesmen. He was one of those dangerous players i miss in todays game. Players out of the range of ranking place 8-16, who were a nightmare for favorites in the last sixteen or last eight, but were not able to string seven wins together to win the whole major. Players who played better against better players than against lesser ones. And who had the nerves to get through the upset wins. I think for instance of Barry Mackay, Marty Riessen, Roger Taylor, Roscoe Tanner, Tim Mayotte, Joakim Nystrom, Larsson, Brad Gilbert.
I had the chance to interview Ralston last year, here is what he said about that match:
For example at Wimbledon, when I went out there to play the finals of Wimbledon in 1966, I was playing Manuel Santana. I beat him two weeks earlier at Queens 64, 64, easily, and he was a really good player on clay, and a good player on grass, but I remember I beat Cliff Drysdale in the semis 12-10 in the fifth, and I had a day off and I walked out there and I was just flat. If I had a coach, someone who would have told me, you haven’t done anything yet, you’re in the finals, that’s great, so what, forget it , you’ve got to go out there and win this match, finish the job. But I went out there like “Ok, I’m in the finals” and my attitude wasn’t this is the most important match of your life, which it should have been, regardless, win or lose. I think I was comfortable, and I thought I was going to win, but I lost in straight sets, and that's a tough loss, but I learned something from it.
http://austintennis.blogspot.com/2011/10/dennis-ralston-interview-part-i.html
I like Santana, specially on clay but i liked even more Pietrangeli. But it's good tennis, specially for amateurs.
Both of the players you mentioned had a fantastic dropshot, they say.
I like Santana, specially on clay but i liked even more Pietrangeli. But it's good tennis, specially for amateurs.
As I said before, their 1961 final is considered to be one of the finest ever and, certainly, the best match played on clay during the 1960´s...
Yes, i agree with you. And what's your opinion of the 62 final (Laver-Emerson)?
A very tough one, which Laver rates as his most difficult final en course to his first Grad SLAM; which compares to bUDGE...
Yes, it was really a close match, which makes me think about the place of Emerson in history. He's overated today, I know but at the same time he was a good player and could have been better if he became pro, don't you think?
Hard to tell.IMo, if we rank the top pros from 1963 to 1967, Emerson could have challenged Hoad or Gonzales for the nº 3 ( and Gimeno &Fraser ) but I do not think he could have surpassed Laver and Rosewall..
To favour Emerson in comparison with the pros people tend to overrate Emmo. Maybe he could have improved when playing against the top pros but I doubt it because he did not have the same potential that Laver, Rosewall, Hoad, Gonzalez and Gimeno had.
I rank Emerson as No. 5 together with Hoad and Buchholz in his very best year, 1964.
Fraser must be a mistake here...
I see your point. So, why some people say Emerson was a "false" amateur?
I also rank him at 5 th, behind the big four.Hoad had severe problems, although we know that he had owned Rosewall in 2 out of 3 majors before turning pro...
You forgot Australian Champ.s 1955. In amateur GS tournaments it is 2:2 between Hoad and Rosewall.
Rosewall was higher ranked that Hoad from 1953 to 1955 plus was clearly better than Lew in the second part of 1956.
I see your point. So, why some people say Emerson was a "false" amateur?
Emerson rejected a huge pro contract offered to him by Laver and Rosewall in 1964, who needed an injection into the slumbering pro tour.
I believe that it was about $80,000 (worth about 20 times that today)
Emerson turned it down, claiming that he was making more than that as an amateur.
True, but Hoad won 2 Wimbs...and that, really hurts Rosewall career ( the only objection to put him in the first 2 tiers of all time giants is he never won the biggest title)
True, but Hoad won 2 Wimbs...and that, really hurts Rosewall career ( the only objection to put him in the first 2 tiers of all time giants is he never won the biggest title)
That's conflicting with what I've read, which was that Emerson remained an amateur out of loyalty to the Aussie Davis Cup team and Harry Hopman. However, when an alleged basis for motivation is based on money, it has instant credibility, IMO. Do you have a source for that?
The official line was that Emmo was loyal to the Aussie Davis Cup team.
I am trying to remember the source for the more believable story, that Emmo rejected an $80,000 guarantee from Laver and Rosewall, telling them that he could do better than that as an amateur.
I read it recently.
True, but Hoad won 2 Wimbs...and that, really hurts Rosewall career ( the only objection to put him in the first 2 tiers of all time giants is he never won the biggest title)
I have read that once in World Tennis
I have read that once in World Tennis
Following your logic, your "king", Laver is much worse than Federer and Sampras because Rod only won four Wimbledons while F. and S. won seven...
That Emmo made more money to remain an amateur?
That Emmo believed that his income would be higher as an amateur. This would be in 1964, at the height of Emmo's celebrity, and by 1968 when he turned pro his celebrity had declined as he aged. He was 30 years old before he turned pro.
Thank you for the answers Kiki and Dan Lobb. About Santana and Franco's regime, what are your sources?
And Daniel, where did you read Emerson reject that contract?