Volkl Cyclone "does anything beat it"?

danbrenner

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Ok, so what poly to use? That has been and will be the most challenging question for players of all levels. I have experimented extensively over the last two years, and have tried just about every brand available. Blast was one of my first experiments. Nice soft and powerful for about 3 days, then gets mushy and goes awry. Luxilon BB original, alu power, and 4g. Great sting. But for a spin monger, you may not get the bite that the shaped polys give. Perfect for the flatter hitters. Solinco Tour Bite. Such a great string. Outrageous ball bite and spin, but a very harsh ride. I can go on and on, but my point is that Volkl Cyclone, especially the 17s, just do everything really well. They don't go mushy, excellent tension maintenance. The original Cyclone is super crisp and low powered, while the Cyclone Tour is softer and more powerful. I have used both for years now, and will attest that between these two gems, there is no need to use anything else. In fact I love them both so much that I hybrid'd the two, to combine the feel. Only on one of my sticks. Tour mains 57, orig Cycline crosses 55. If you are reading this post and have never tried Cyclone, please get yourself a set, string up one of your axe's, and go to battle. Then come back and tell me about your experience. If you are reading this post and have tried Cyclone, then also please feel free to tell us what you think. Thanks, Dan NTRP 4.5
 
mad dog1

mad dog1

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i tried cyclone tour first and didn't like it at all so assuming that cyclone was similar, i never bothered to try it. since TW was offering reels of it in pink for $50 during one of the recent happy hour sales, i finally thought about giving it a try. i picked up a reel because it was andy gerst's go to string while he was grinding it out on the tour. so glad i tried it and regret not buying more reels. cyclone is a great string. crisp with good feel and excellent control. comfort isn't bad either. does not play anything like cyclone tour at all which is a good thing in my book. cyclone tour probably just needs to be strung 5#s higher and it might be ok, but unless i get a set for free, i'm not gonna bother to try it again. Tour Bite is great as well, but as you mention, it can be harsh in a full bed depending on the frame. when i use TB, i put it in the mains and cross it w/ Discho Iontec Hexa 1.20 @ 2# higher. makes TB feel buttery smooth.
 
danbrenner

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mad dog1 said:
i tried cyclone tour first and didn't like it at all so assuming that cyclone was similar, i never bothered to try it. since TW was offering reels of it in pink for $50 during one of the recent happy hour sales, i finally thought about giving it a try. i picked up a reel because it was andy gerst's go to string while he was grinding it out on the tour. so glad i tried it and regret not buying more reels. cyclone is a great string. crisp with good feel and excellent control. comfort isn't bad either. does not play anything like cyclone tour at all which is a good thing in my book. cyclone tour probably just needs to be strung 5#s higher and it might be ok, but unless i get a set for free, i'm not gonna bother to try it again. Tour Bite is great as well, but as you mention, it can be harsh in a full bed depending on the frame. when i use TB, i put it in the mains and cross it w/ Discho Iontec Hexa 1.20 @ 2# higher. makes TB feel buttery smooth.
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That's cool. Good move using a softer cross with the TB. If I wasn't already in love with the Cyclone, I would be using TB. It really does bite like a Pitt Bull. The C Tour is actually a great string as far as soft polys go. But as you said, it has to be strung several pounds higher to become neutral. But I'm glad that you found Cyclone, and loved it. It really is in my opinion the absolute best as far as doing everything well. Meaning it may not be the very best in any category, but it's "very good" in all categories. Which is why it's the best string. :)
 
mad dog1

mad dog1

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there are alot of great strings. here are some of the ones i have found to be excellent

volkl cyclone 1.25
msv evo hex 1.25
discho iontec 1.25
discho iontec hexa 1.25 and 1.20 is great for crosses
yonex poly tour pro 1.30 and 1.25
yonex poly tour spin (only tried 1.25 so far)
solinco tour bite soft 1.30
solinco tour bite 1.25 (hybrid w/ soft poly cross)
tier one firewire 1.25 (hybrid w/ round poly cross)
kirschbaum pro line II 1.25
 
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danbrenner said:
Ok, so what poly to use? That has been and will be the most challenging question for players of all levels. I have experimented extensively over the last two years, and have tried just about every brand available. Blast was one of my first experiments. Nice soft and powerful for about 3 days, then gets mushy and goes awry. Luxilon BB original, alu power, and 4g. Great sting. But for a spin monger, you may not get the bite that the shaped polys give. Perfect for the flatter hitters. Solinco Tour Bite. Such a great string. Outrageous ball bite and spin, but a very harsh ride. I can go on and on, but my point is that Volkl Cyclone, especially the 17s, just do everything really well. They don't go mushy, excellent tension maintenance. The original Cyclone is super crisp and low powered, while the Cyclone Tour is softer and more powerful. I have used both for years now, and will attest that between these two gems, there is no need to use anything else. In fact I love them both so much that I hybrid'd the two, to combine the feel. Only on one of my sticks. Tour mains 57, orig Cycline crosses 55. If you are reading this post and have never tried Cyclone, please get yourself a set, string up one of your axe's, and go to battle. Then come back and tell me about your experience. If you are reading this post and have tried Cyclone, then also please feel free to tell us what you think. Thanks, Dan NTRP 4.5
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Try any dyreex string blows all the competion away.
 
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jisop said:
Try any dyreex string blows all the competion away.
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Get this (Dyreek) Euro trash out of this thread. If I can't buy it from TW, it's not relevant. Plus I checked it out on stringforum and there are barely any reviews. :twisted:
 
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dknotty

Semi-Pro
Volkl Cyclone is excellent. However, I prefer Yonex Poly Tour Pro, slightly less spin generation but it is playable for longer and it is WAY more comfortable than Cyclone.

The Poly Tour Pro 1.20 is truly fantastic.
 
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jisop

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danbrenner said:
Get this (Dyreek) Euro trash out of this thread. If I can't buy it from TW, it's not relevant. Plus I checked it out on stringforum and there are barely any reviews. :twisted:
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Oh my another trash talker, hater, read the post I can post whatever I wsnt. Just hating because you dont have it. Get your trash out of here. Idiot
 
fgs

fgs

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danbrenner,

i have not played dyreex nor do i intend to do it in the next future, but last time i looked völkl was european too, if you happen to regard germany as being part of europe.

with strings i found that the saying "one man's trash is another ones treasure" is applicable.

i'm really happy for you that you found your favourite string nevertheless.
 
Sander001

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Agreed with the OP, only have tried Cyclone 1.20 black. I also think it is a brilliant string.
-excellent spin
-excellent at both high and low tensions
-remains constant even at different temperatures
-excellent comfort for a poly
-good feedback
-excellent playability duration, snaps back even when notched
-decent power

Control is a bit trickier to categorize because it does have a more elastic and lively response than most other polys so something like Pro Line 2 1.20 might have more directional control, but then your ball might go long because you're not getting as much spin.

All in all, a superb string that gives me more confidence to hit my shots and not hold back, even during pressure situations.
 
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parasailing

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dknotty said:
Volkl Cyclone is excellent. However, I prefer Yonex Poly Tour Pro, slightly less spin generation but it is playable for longer and it is WAY more comfortable than Cyclone.

The Poly Tour Pro 1.20 is truly fantastic.
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How does PTP Pro 1.20 compared against PTP Pro 1.25? I tried the 1.25 variant and didn't like it mainly because it felt muted and I prefer a little more pop in a poly string.

Cyclone Tour I think is the gem for those looking for a softer co-poly that offers good spin, control, and that extra pop.
 
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dknotty

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parasailing said:
How does PTP Pro 1.20 compared against PTP Pro 1.25? I tried the 1.25 variant and didn't like it mainly because it felt muted and I prefer a little more pop in a poly string.

Cyclone Tour I think is the gem for those looking for a softer co-poly that offers good spin, control, and that extra pop.
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More spin, more power, similarly soft & comfortable.
 
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At $8 a set, I think you will be hard pressed to find a better price/performance in a polyester, even better if you buy in reels. I used to give a slight edge to TB for my overall favorite. Now, I'm not so sure, I think they are about tied. They play similar, but there are also some differences. Lots of spin, control, and a stiffer feel which I like. Pretty durable for a poly, overall a pleasure to hit with.
 
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danbrenner

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emilyhex said:
At $8 a set, I think you will be hard pressed to find a better price/performance in a polyester, even better if you buy in reels. I used to give a slight edge to TB for my overall favorite. Now, I'm not so sure, I think they are about tied. They play similar, but there are also some differences. Lots of spin, control, and a stiffer feel which I like. Pretty durable for a poly, overall a pleasure to hit with.
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I love TB but you do feel like Yu are playing with barbed wire. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just cyclone feels like a more traditional rounder string. It's the happy medium if you will, between TB and a round sting like 4g
 
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liam1

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agree with OP. I too have experimented with lots of strings recently and Cyclone is definitely my favourite.
 
danbrenner

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liam1 said:
agree with OP. I too have experimented with lots of strings recently and Cyclone is definitely my favourite.
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Yeah man. It just seems to do everything well. And it really doesn't go mushy. Give us some examples of what you play tested and how it compared. And why Cyclone is your fav. Thanks in advance.
 
danbrenner

danbrenner

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I don't want to be a phony here, and should mention that if I was a flat hitter, I would use 4g as my go to. That is such an awesome string. But alas I have a Western forehand, and 4g just doesn't quite "bend it like Beckham" if you know what I mean!!
 
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lostinamerica

Semi-Pro
I like Cyclone a lot. Although, I recently tried the Volkl V-Torque and that stuff is incredible. They are my 2 favorite strings. Volkl has the spinny strings figured out.
 
danbrenner

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lostinamerica said:
I like Cyclone a lot. Although, I recently tried the Volkl V-Torque and that stuff is incredible. They are my 2 favorite strings. Volkl has the spinny strings figured out.
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Cool. But elaborate on the the characteristics of the v torque as compared with cyclone. I heard that v tourqe had lower than average tension retension?
 
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Torres

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danbrenner said:
The original Cyclone is super crisp and low powered, while the Cyclone Tour is softer and more powerful. I have used both for years now, and will attest that between these two gems, there is no need to use anything else.
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I like Cyclone a lot and think it has a great balance of characteristics but I don't see how you could have played with the Tour for years as only got released a few months ago......

They're also very playing strings. If you like Cyclone, I wouldn't say that the Tour would be the obvious alternative.
 
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danbrenner

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Torres said:
I like Cyclone a lot and think it has a great balance of characteristics but I don't see how you could have played with the Tour for years as only got released a few months ago......

They're also very playing strings. If you like Cyclone, I wouldn't say that the Tour would be the obvious alternative.
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Hey Torrez. Cyclone tour was available at ******** Sports about 2 years ago. Much earlier than at TW. But even TW has stocked it for about a year now. Just in the Red color. They now have an anthracite available. I would say that tour would be the obvious alternative, and in fact did say that tour would be the obvious alternative. !! Lol. It's just a softer way to go. If you want a softer poly with more spring and power, you can go Tour. As I have said, blast and some other softer polys have disappointed me with abysmal tension maintenance. The cyclone tour I feel holds up very well in that area. :)
 
danbrenner

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Torres said:
I like Cyclone a lot and think it has a great balance of characteristics but I don't see how you could have played with the Tour for years as only got released a few months ago......

They're also very playing strings. If you like Cyclone, I wouldn't say that the Tour would be the obvious alternative.
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And Torrez. I'm not a liar. When it comes to tennis, I hold myself to a very real and honest standard. So if there is something that I say, that you may not understand, just come correct. I would not look to disrespect you in a public arena of peers. Hola bird sports has hooked me up way early with a few equipment beauties. :)
 
danbrenner

danbrenner

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Torres said:
So H Bird Sports hooked you up with Cyclone Tour several years before Volkl even invented it?
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Torrez you buffoon. i gave you two chances to crawl away back to your cave. but you leave me no choice but to publicly humiliate you. If Cyclone Tour was not invented until a few months ago as you have stated.. then why is there a Tennis Warehouse review of the stuff on You Tube dating from Novemeber 2012? you moron. lol now go away you lazy idiot, who cant even bother to Google "volkl cyclone release". Its lazy morons like you, that keep people like me in charge. now go shine my shoes.. lol
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=dFU35UVOMNGegdj07i7jhA&bvm=bv.52434380,d.eWU
 
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parasailing

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Cyclone Tour is pretty awesome string. If this had been made by Babolat, Luxilon, or Wilson, we would hear how great the string is but since it's made Volkl, nobody hears much about it.

I usually not a fan of polys as most are really stiff and underpowered compared to multis and natural gut. This strings offers a softer feel, good power, and great access to spin in addition to offering a great value.

I am going to test out the 17g vs 18g to see how different they play. The only thing I found odd is Volkl doesn't discount the reel as much compared to the package thus it doesn't make much sense buying the reel.
 
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Torres

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danbrenner said:
Torrez you buffoon. i gave you two chances to crawl away back to your cave. but you leave me no choice but to publicly humiliate you. If Cyclone Tour was not invented until a few months ago as you have stated.. then why is there a Tennis Warehouse review of the stuff on You Tube dating from Novemeber 2012? you moron. lol now go away you lazy idiot, who cant even bother to Google "volkl cyclone release". Its lazy morons like you, that keep people like me in charge. now go shine my shoes.. lol
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So defensive, then again you have just been busted.

If the string was released in November 2012, you could hardly have been playing with it for "several years" as you previously claimed....

Try harder with your story next time :)
 
StringingIrvine

StringingIrvine

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I don't want to sound like a broken record but I did not feel that the thinner gauges of cyclone held tension very well. I'm currently using msv 18l (1.10mm) and I recently tried cyclone 18g (1.20mm).

It played amazing the first two sessions but after that it felt like the tension maintenance fell off a cliff.

I string myself and I wouldn't say money is an issue but I didn't want to be stringing my racket after two sessions (6 hours total). I'm currently restringing around 15 hours max with my set up with msv hex.

Some people say cyclone holds tension well, but I had different results which are more in line with tennis warehouse university’s results. For a comparison I picked two gauges which were similar in thickness.

Focus Hex 17L (1.18 ) strung at low tension (40 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~17.9 lbs (45%)
Focus Hex 17L (1.18 ) strung at med tension (51 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~13.7 lbs (27%)
Focus Hex 17L (1.18 ) strung at high tension (62 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~16.6 lbs (28%)

Cyclone 18 (1.20 ) strung at low tension (40 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~22.5 lbs (56%)
Cyclone 18 (1.20 ) strung at med tension (51 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~24.3 lbs (48%)
Cyclone 18 (1.20 ) strung at high tension (62 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~26.0 lbs (42%)

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reporter.php

In instances the tension difference was 10 lbs which is huge! If you are stringing at a mid tension there is almost a 20% difference in tension loss between strings. Maybe the fact I use thinner gauge strings skew this test, but I just love the thinner strings in a dense string pattern.

Everyone’s results will vary and everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I liked the plain jane msv hex more. It doesn’t stand out in any area but its predictable with a very gradual drop in tension, which is why I sold my reel of cyclone and purchased another reel of msv hex.

The price of 5 dollars a set with a reel is also nice =)
 
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rdis10093

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in terms of price no, but better poly in general yes. alu rough, M2 pro, and hurricane just to name a few.
 
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agree with the tension and playability. at the start it is a very nice string, but after like five hours it drops like crazy even for a poly. also significant change in feel of the string.
 
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scotus

G.O.A.T.
Out of Cyclone, Cyclone Tour and V-Torque, I like V-Torque the best.

It is very arm-friendly and gives me the most spin of the three.

The playability lasts about the same Cyclone and V-Torque.

I did not care for Cyclone Tour because it was too stiff for my arm.
 
danbrenner

danbrenner

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scotus said:
Out of Cyclone, Cyclone Tour and V-Torque, I like V-Torque the best.

It is very arm-friendly and gives me the most spin of the three.

The playability lasts about the same Cyclone and V-Torque.

I did not care for Cyclone Tour because it was too stiff for my arm.
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You see opinions are so varied. Tour is by far for me the softest of those 3. And I mean by far. It's softer and higher powered. Regular cyclone is wiry and harsh in Comparison. R u sure u are not getting original cyclone e mixed up with th tour?
 
danbrenner

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StringingIrvine said:
I don't want to sound like a broken record but I did not feel that the thinner gauges of cyclone held tension very well. I'm currently using msv 18l (1.10mm) and I recently tried cyclone 18g (1.20mm).

It played amazing the first two sessions but after that it felt like the tension maintenance fell off a cliff.

I string myself and I wouldn't say money is an issue but I didn't want to be stringing my racket after two sessions (6 hours total). I'm currently restringing around 15 hours max with my set up with msv hex.

Some people say cyclone holds tension well, but I had different results which are more in line with tennis warehouse university’s results. For a comparison I picked two gauges which were similar in thickness.

Focus Hex 17L (1.18 ) strung at low tension (40 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~17.9 lbs (45%)
Focus Hex 17L (1.18 ) strung at med tension (51 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~13.7 lbs (27%)
Focus Hex 17L (1.18 ) strung at high tension (62 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~16.6 lbs (28%)

Cyclone 18 (1.20 ) strung at low tension (40 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~22.5 lbs (56%)
Cyclone 18 (1.20 ) strung at med tension (51 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~24.3 lbs (48%)
Cyclone 18 (1.20 ) strung at high tension (62 lbs) had a total tension loss of ~26.0 lbs (42%)

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/reporter.php

In instances the tension difference was 10 lbs which is huge! If you are stringing at a mid tension there is almost a 20% difference in tension loss between strings. Maybe the fact I use thinner gauge strings skew this test, but I just love the thinner strings in a dense string pattern.

Everyone’s results will vary and everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I liked the plain jane msv hex more. It doesn’t stand out in any area but its predictable with a very gradual drop in tension, which is why I sold my reel of cyclone and purchased another reel of msv hex.

The price of 5 dollars a set with a reel is also nice =)
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I just want to go in record saying that the tw university center, is in my opinion a complete joke and waste of time. To actually take results like these seriously without your own decision making and testing, is reprehensible. I'm not saying you did that. I know you have experimented but for any followers of this thread I will say stay away from this nonsense. The only place to go for string facts is string forum . Net. And then hit the ratings database button.
 
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scotus

G.O.A.T.
danbrenner said:
You see opinions are so varied. Tour is by far for me the softest of those 3. And I mean by far. It's softer and higher powered. Regular cyclone is wiry and harsh in Comparison. R u sure u are not getting original cyclone e mixed up with th tour?
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Tour has something like a buttery feel that may come across as a soft feel, but I have had several bouts with serious tennis elbow and have a very sensitive arm, so I know what my arm feels.

Have you had tennis elbow, or do you have a healthy arm?
 
danbrenner

danbrenner

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scotus said:
Tour has something like a buttery feel that may come across as a soft feel, but I have had several bouts with serious tennis elbow and have a very sensitive arm, so I know what my arm feels.

Have you had tennis elbow, or do you have a healthy arm?
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No. Thank God healthy. I guess there are properties in the composition that don't agree with you. So yes, you must listen to yur arm. :)
 
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scotus

G.O.A.T.
danbrenner said:
No. Thank God healthy. I guess there are properties in the composition that don't agree with you. So yes, you must listen to yur arm. :)
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Yes, ultimately I have to go with what my arm says.

I know that TW University's findings say that the Tour is the softest of the bunch, but my arm says otherwise.

Perhaps at an extreme tension these strings show different stiffness. I tested them at 30 lbs.
 
danbrenner

danbrenner

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scotus said:
Yes, ultimately I have to go with what my arm says.

I know that TW University's findings say that the Tour is the softest of the bunch, but my arm says otherwise.

Perhaps at an extreme tension these strings show different stiffness. I tested them at 30 lbs.
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You see this is exactly what I'm talking about. Who gives a damn what TW university says. In telling you those stars are useless. I told u that tour is softer because I have played with it for a year and a half. Lol.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Mid weight stringing on SolincoTourBite 16 is pretty hard to beat.
I use 47 on a 60 flex racket, 16x19, and 98 squ's. Very easy, especially when hitting harder than I can really hit. Possibly a little stiff for old fart's tennis, in the 3.5 range.
 
danbrenner

danbrenner

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LeeD said:
Mid weight stringing on SolincoTourBite 16 is pretty hard to beat.
I use 47 on a 60 flex racket, 16x19, and 98 squ's. Very easy, especially when hitting harder than I can really hit. Possibly a little stiff for old fart's tennis, in the 3.5 range.
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I am a big fan of TB. I even liked the TB soft. Bit not as much as reg TB. Have u ever tried the soft?
 
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parasailing

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danbrenner said:
You see opinions are so varied. Tour is by far for me the softest of those 3. And I mean by far. It's softer and higher powered. Regular cyclone is wiry and harsh in Comparison. R u sure u are not getting original cyclone e mixed up with th tour?
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I also think Cyclone Tour is one of the softer and more powerful polys I have tested and that includes Tour Bite and Tour Bite soft. Strings are so subjective that I can see why manufacturers offer so many different strings. I am glad that we can test out so many types and offer our subjective opinion on which one suits us.
 
mad dog1

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
danbrenner said:
You see opinions are so varied. Tour is by far for me the softest of those 3. And I mean by far. It's softer and higher powered. Regular cyclone is wiry and harsh in Comparison. R u sure u are not getting original cyclone e mixed up with th tour?
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parasailing said:
I also think Cyclone Tour is one of the softer and more powerful polys I have tested and that includes Tour Bite and Tour Bite soft. Strings are so subjective that I can see why manufacturers offer so many different strings. I am glad that we can test out so many types and offer our subjective opinion on which one suits us.
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this mirrors my experience as well. cyclone tour was way too soft & powerful for me at 53# on an electronic CP machine in a 95" racquet. in comparison, TBS strung at 52#s in a 100" racquet worked for me. i think i would have to try cyclone tour at ~58#s which is much higher than i usually string my polys.
 
Galdust

Galdust

Rookie
Had to order the Cyclone after reading all the praise of this string. Also ordered BHBR and Kirschbaum Pro Line X. Looking forward to comparing them :)
 
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