NBA 2017-18: Four-peat Finals Or A New Narrative???

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The Beard winds up with 48 as Houston overcame a 14-point deficit in the third quarter to win 124-117. The Rocket backcourt outscored the Blazers tandem 72-63 due in part to Lillard sitting with a sore ankle when the Rockets mounted their comeback. Lillard had 35 in just 37 minutes.

The Rockets are now 12-1 on the road and 20-4 overall and have won 9 in a row, all since CP3 returned to play from injury. They are a perfect 10-0 with him in the lineup. I heard a crazy stat that Anderson is shooting 80+ percent from the field on feeds from CP3.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
The Beard winds up with 48 as Houston overcame a 14-point deficit in the third quarter to win 124-117. The Rocket backcourt outscored the Blazers tandem 72-63 due in part to Lillard sitting with a sore ankle when the Rockets mounted their comeback. Lillard had 35 in just 37 minutes.

The Rockets are now 12-1 on the road and 20-4 overall and have won 9 in a row, all since CP3 returned to play from injury. They are a perfect 10-0 with him in the lineup. I heard a crazy stat that Anderson is shooting 80+ percent from the field on feeds from CP3.
The Beard is avg nearly 35 ppg since CP3 came back.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
Oladipo has really turned around his career, 47 last night...pretty much single-handedly stopped the Cavs winning streak the other night
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
Embiid sat out Saturday against Cavs for their rest plan but then didn't play last night with back stiffness
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Really love how so many Magic "alumni" are thriving elsewhere this year but we continue to suck.

Oladipo in Indiana gets the starring role but the cast includes Ryan Anderson, Tobias Harris, DH12, Jameer Nelson, Maurice Harkless, Trevor Ariza, Serge Ibaka, Marcin Gortat, J.J. Redick, Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. That's quite a roster and there are more to stock a developmental roster.

I nominate Rob Hennigan as the GOAT Santa Claus.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
Really love how so many Magic "alumni" are thriving elsewhere this year but we continue to suck.

Oladipo in Indiana gets the starring role but the cast includes Ryan Anderson, Tobias Harris, DH12, Jameer Nelson, Maurice Harkless, Trevor Ariza, Serge Ibaka, Marcin Gortat, J.J. Redick, Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. That's quite a roster and there are more to stock a developmental roster.

I nominate Rob Hennigan as the GOAT Santa Claus.

have to say, Oladipo looks to be in the best shape of his career....that is on him more than any team he plays for or coach
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
have to say, Oladipo looks to be in the best shape of his career....that is on him more than any team he plays for or coach
The Tragic gave up on him too early. We traded whom was in effect the #1 pick (Anthony Bennett went first:eek:) in the 2013 draft after three years, the second of which was the only one where he was the starting SG for the entire season. He averaged 18 points that year on a bad team (25-57) and novice coaching (Jacque Vaughn/James Borrego). The hire of impatient Scott Skiles as HC signaled the end of his chance at development here, sending him to bench as a sixth man. And then we hire Frank Vogel, who was the trigger for the deal that swapped Oladipo and the rights to Sabonis for a veteran that didn't even last a full season here. Way too much volatility in his too brief time here.

I'm glad Victor is on the upswing again. He has a nice cast around him and Nate McMillan is a proven coach with the perfect background as a great backcourt player himself to help him develop.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
The Tragic gave up on him too early. We traded whom was in effect the #1 pick (Anthony Bennett went first:eek:) in the 2013 draft after three years, the second of which was the only one where he was the starting SG for the entire season. He averaged 18 points that year on a bad team (25-57) and novice coaching (Jacque Vaughn/James Borrego). The hire of impatient Scott Skiles as HC signaled the end of his chance at development here, sending him to bench as a sixth man. And then we hire Frank Vogel, who was the trigger for the deal that swapped Oladipo and the rights to Sabonis for a veteran that didn't even last a full season here. Way too much volatility in his too brief time here.

I'm glad Victor is on the upswing again. He has a nice cast around him and Nate McMillan is a proven coach with the perfect background as a great backcourt player himself to help him develop.

(Anthony Bennett went first:eek:)

believe me, as a Cavs fan I know :(
 

T1000

Legend
Really love how so many Magic "alumni" are thriving elsewhere this year but we continue to suck.

Oladipo in Indiana gets the starring role but the cast includes Ryan Anderson, Tobias Harris, DH12, Jameer Nelson, Maurice Harkless, Trevor Ariza, Serge Ibaka, Marcin Gortat, J.J. Redick, Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. That's quite a roster and there are more to stock a developmental roster.

I nominate Rob Hennigan as the GOAT Santa Claus.

Thanks for not matching a 3/12 offer for oquinn. He's one of my favorites on this overachieving team
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Anyone watching this defensive match between the Rockets & Pelicans? The Beard has 14 assists at the half!

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stringertom

Bionic Poster
The Beard fed 17 dimes out to his mates to go along with 26 points in the win over New Orleans. This two-headed backcourt with CP3 is pretty amazing!
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
the Cavs did....I think the top 7 teams look pretty good to be there...OKC should be able to run down Utah at some point I'd think
Look below OKC. Both LA teams are in striking distance (1.5 games) so it won't be match play with Utah.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The Thunder reverberates without any lightning strikes late again as once lowly Brooklyn joins the club of teams to rally vs Tres Amigos, this time appropriately in Mexico City.

You can't fire the team so the obvious fall guy will be Donovan if this continues. Time to return to the NCAA, Billy.
Stephen A. may be reading my poasts. He said the time is near for the OKC coaching change less than a week after I suggested the time is up for Billy D.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The lowly Mavericks withstand the limited minutes return of Kawhi Leonard and pull away FTW in the fourth quarter as the Spurs star watched from the locker room.

It was all Embiid in the Sixers OT win in Minnesota, including the long trey in the extra frame to seal the win...28/12/8 in a career high 39 minutes.

The Unicorn in The Garden was again formidable as NYK won for the 13th time at home, taking LAL down in OT...37/11 with 5 erasers. Now the team crosses the East River on Thursday in an attempt to win for the second time this year on the road.

Oh, almost forgot...LBJ went 25/7/17 in the Cadavers win over visiting Atlanta. That matches his career best in dimes. Cavs had 20 treys, almost half of their 123 points.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
LEBRON JAMES SHOT CHART 25pts tonight (11-13 FG, 2-3 3P)....his 85 FG% is the 3rd best mark of his career. And by the way, LeBron tied a career high with 17 assists, EIGHT of which went for threes (including all four in the 1Q). #CavsRadio @Cavs

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T1000

Legend
The Unicorn in The Garden was again formidable as NYK won for the 13th time at home, taking LAL down in OT...37/11 with 5 erasers. Now the team crosses the East River on Thursday in an attempt to win for the second time this year on the road.

Was at the game last night. The garden was going crazy when both teams were trading in the middle of the third. Had to be one of the most fun games I've been to. Didn't get a chance to meet the big baller though :(
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Was at the game last night. The garden was going crazy when both teams were trading in the middle of the third. Had to be one of the most fun games I've been to. Didn't get a chance to meet the big baller though :(
B2 and B3 were in the house with BallDaddy, making a pit stop on the way to Lithuania. Did you buy some kicks???
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Knock me over with a feather...Frank Friggin Vogel is actually giving significant PT to Mario Hezonja due to Fournier's injury and he is producing...12/7/4, a steal and 3 erasers midway through the third quarter.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The Magic lost to LAC but I like what Super Mario contributed in his second career start...34 minutes with 17/9/4 a steal and 4 blocks and shot 6/11 from the field.

In contrast, the Thunder get a road win in PG13's return to Indianapolis with Tres Amigos going a collective 10/45 from the field. RW got a trip dub (10/17/12) on 3/17 shooting. Oladipo was shut down by George, shooting 1/7 when matched up and 9/26 overall for 19 points.

Rockets red glaring again for the 11th consecutive time. Harden and Paul are unstoppable together and even better when going solo. After Harden left the game for a blow late in the first quarter, CP3 led the second unit on a 25-0 run to blow up Charlotte. He finished with 31 points and 11 dimes.

In a tag team takedown of The Greek Freak, BoogieBrow combined for 51/23 to defeat the visiting Bucks. Giannis keeps putting up MVP numbers (32/9/4 with one block and five steals) in the loss.

Kyrie returned to the lineup from his sore quad and led Boston in a high scoring win at home over Denver, 124-118. He had 33/7 to offset the game and career high 36 points from Nuggets SG Gary Harris.

Chicago is a perfect 4-0 since Mirotic's return to the lineup and Bobby Portis' favorite punching bag led with 29/9 in a close win at home vs Utah. Donovan Mitchell is putting up ROY numbers for Utah, going for 32/3/6 and now averaging 17.8/3.0/3.3 in just under 30 minutes. Seven of his last 10 games feature 20+ points stats.
 

Doc Hollidae

Hall of Fame
Chicago is a perfect 4-0 since Mirotic's return to the lineup and Bobby Portis' favorite punching bag led with 29/9 in a close win at home vs Utah. Donovan Mitchell is putting up ROY numbers for Utah, going for 32/3/6 and now averaging 17.8/3.0/3.3 in just under 30 minutes. Seven of his last 10 games feature 20+ points stats.

Dunn's been putting up some solid numbers as well, after looking like a bust in Minnesota.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The original and authentic LBigBaller gets his team the W behind his 59th career trip dub, tying the mark of another LB from French Lick. That Indiana hamlet may seem like Gotham compared to the outpost LilBros Balls will inhabit soon but they were in the Loan Branch office to witness the first encounter of man vs boy. Man: 25/12/12 with 2 swats; Boy: 13/8/11 with 2 thefts.

Andre the Giant gets a Drummond roll for going 4/4 at the linebeing one thin dime away from a trip dub (12/19/9) as Detroit stops a 7-game slump and knocks off Atlanta.

The NYK win on the road for the first time since October, taking the subway to work in Brooklyn. The Unicorn checked out early in the third quarter with knee pain but Lee, O'Quinn and Beasley stepped up in the void.

The T-Wolves went to Towns FTW easily over visiting Sacto. 30/14/5 with one steal and five swats.

GSW had a bit of trouble early vs visiting Dallas but tied it at half before thoroughly rolling behind another UUUGGGEEE KD night...36/11/6 with two denials. Very impressed with the team of understudies for injured Zaza, Swaggy P, Chef and DraymonT. Omri Casspi had a solid dub dub (17/11) as a starter. Jordan Bell also started, played 24 minutes and finished with 8/6/8 and two larcenies. Quentin Cook came off the bench to relieve Livingstone and played nice ball by hitting a key trey during the third quarter spurt that opened up the lead.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
NYT:

An N.B.A. Team in Mexico City: How Realistic Is That?


By MARC STEIN

DEC. 15, 2017


  • MEXICO CITY — The revelation hit Eduardo Najera as a local celebrity, Edith Márquez, stood at midcourt nearly three hours before tipoff, practicing her rendition of the Mexican national anthem.

    Najera, who was the second Mexican-born player in the N.B.A., had just plopped down into a baseline seat at the Mexico City Arena alongside Horacio Llamas, who was the first from the country to play in the league.

    And as he scanned the scene from floor level, taking in the 22,300-capacity structure that would soon fill for a Brooklyn Nets-Oklahoma City Thunder game, Najera couldn’t help but think he was back in Dallas or Denver or another of the five stops in his N.B.A. career.

    “This feels like the States,” Najera said.

    “You’re right,” Llamas said.

    As patriotic as they are, Najera and Llamas — two of just four Mexican-born players to reach the N.B.A. — were clearly pleased that the basketball bustle enveloping them, as the Nets and Thunder went through their regular warm-up routines, would have seemed authentic in any American outpost on the N.B.A. map.

    The two have been in league circles long enough to be well acquainted with the inevitable believe-it-when-we-see-it skepticism back in the United States that greets talk of an actual N.B.A. franchise landing south of the border someday. But they, and others here, are convinced that the N.B.A.’s ramped-up local initiatives — in conjunction with the two regular-season games it staged last week in the Mexican capital — mean Mexico City’s time is coming.


  • “We’re getting closer to that,” Najera said.

    The mayor of Mexico City, Miguel Ángel Mancera, was even more emphatic. In a brief interview in English after a news conference to welcome the N.B.A. on its 25th anniversary trip to town, Mancera said he thought Mexico City could immediately handle its own N.B.A. team.

    “Now,” Mancera said. “We are ready now. We are waiting for that announcement.”

    Things will not move as quickly as Mancera hopes. N.B.A. Commissioner Adam Silver is clear about that, noting repeatedly in recent months that his league is not currently considering expansion or the relocation of an existing franchise.

    “We have a lot more work to do before we can put a team here,” Silver said.

    Yet it is also true that Silver has called expansion inevitable, which helps explain why the N.B.A. has begun exploring the viability of a Mexican franchise as seriously as it ever has. The league recently established its first day-to-day basketball enterprise in Mexico, through a youth development academy, and is pushing to start an N.B.A. G League franchise as quickly as possible, perhaps as early as next season.

    It is no mystery why league officials feel compelled to give Mexico — and Mexico City specifically — every chance to prove itself as suitable soil. The country’s proximity to the United States and its capital city’s population in excess of 20 million are impossible to ignore, given what such numbers could mean in terms of new revenue streams and expanding the game’s global fan base.

    Silver said a Mexico City franchise could also help grow the sport in the United States, where there are roughly 35 million people of Mexican descent and nearly 57 million Latinos.

    “Combined with all those things,” he said, “we play here in Mexico City in the same time zone as the continental United States, so it creates unique opportunities for us in the same way Canada did when we expanded in 1994.”
    Signs of the game’s growing popularity in Mexico City were plentiful during the Nets’ five-day stay. With tickets ranging from about $20 to $450, announced crowds for the two games were strong, totaling 20,562 in the first game and 19,777 in the second, during the same week naysayers asserted the country’s sporting consciousness would be the exclusive domain of soccer’s Liga MX and its Clasico Regio final pitting Tigres against local rival Monterrey.
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    Announced crowds for two N.B.A. games in Mexico City last week were 20,562 and 19,777. CreditFrançois Pesant for The New York Times

    “Every time I come here, you can see that they’re just so excited to have basketball here,” said Miami Heat forward Kelly Olynyk, who has played two N.B.A. regular-season games in Mexico City, including against the Nets last week.

    But it is the potential television perks, as much as any factor, that make Mexico City an increasingly popular topic at the highest levels of the league and perhaps the strongest contender to emerge as a future home for the N.B.A., aside from Seattle, which is widely regarded as first in line to eventually regain its team after losing the Sonics to Oklahoma City in 2008.

    The demand for sports content throughout Mexico continues to increase, thanks largely to a rising middle class and the rapid growth of smartphone usage and pay TV subscriptions, but there is very little domestic content available to Mexican media companies beyond Liga MX. One N.B.A. team could change that landscape and give those companies, as well as advertisers, something else prominent to invest in.

    “The N.B.A. is not a one-weekend thing here,” said Gilberto Hernández, the president of the Mexican Basketball Federation. “It’s a day-to-day thing. You can feel it, you can smell it, you can breathe it in the streets.”

    But in those same streets, plenty is happening to give any American professional sports league a measure of pause about expansion. At the very least, much remains to be learned about how a prospective N.B.A. team and its players would be affected on a daily basis by Mexico City’s notorious traffic and poor air quality, as well as the persistent violencein Mexico in general.

    The $300 million arena is in the northwestern borough of Azcapotzalco, one of Mexico City’s 16 such municipalities. Built upon a patch of land formerly occupied by a slaughterhouse, the nearly six-year-old building is most certainly N.B.A.-caliber, but public transportation to it is difficult from much of the city and there is quite a contrast between the modern arena and the dilapidated industrial zone around it. Several residents interviewed complained about traffic, crime and water issues that have plagued the surrounding neighborhood since the arena opened.
    All three teams (Brooklyn, Oklahoma City and Miami) were housed last week in the upscale district of Polanco, one of the city’s most luxurious neighborhoods. Even so, players were required to attend team security briefings almost immediately after arriving at their respective hotels and were frequently trailed by guards as they walked to various restaurants and high-end shops nearby.

    Practices for the week were held at The American School less than 10 miles away from Polanco. Many of the students at the international preparatory school are the children of business leaders and diplomats and armed guards and their bullet-resistant vehicles are ubiquitous.

    “That’s always a question for many of the leagues,” said Horacio de la Vega Flores, who competed for Mexico in the modern pentathlon in two Olympic Games and serves now as general director of Mexico City’s sports institute. “There are always questions regarding security. There are always questions regarding mobility. But we have always managed to do things the right way.”

    Because of such nagging questions, it is natural to wonder how successful a team in Mexico City could be in terms of courting N.B.A. free agents, given the Toronto Raptors’ longstanding struggles in recruiting players to one of the world’s most cosmopolitan cities — in an English-speaking country.


    The altitude and smog would be another major adjustment. The Miami guard Goran Dragic said Mexico City’s elevation, which at nearly 7,500 above sea level is more than 2,000 feet higher than Denver’s, made it “way worse” than trying to cope with the thin air in a road game against the Nuggets.
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    The scene on the street after the Thunder beat the Nets. “It’s early days in terms of analysis of putting an N.B.A. franchise in Mexico City,” the league's commissioner said. CreditFrançois Pesant for The New York Times
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
(cont.).....

  • In last week’s first game, whether it was the altitude or illness or a combination, there were players on both sides — most notably Brooklyn’s Allen Crabbe and Oklahoma City’s Russell Westbrook — who were forced to retreat to the locker room during game action to gather themselves. Crabbe left the floor twice to vomit during the Nets’ come-from-behind victory, while Westbrook felt so ill afterward that he was granted permission to skip the standard round of postgame interviews.

    “I think we had like five players under the weather — myself included,” Nets guard Rondae Hollis-Jefferson said of a stomach virus that several in Brooklyn’s traveling party believe contributed to a fourth-quarter fade in its subsequent loss to the Heat.

    But the N.B.A. is poised to get a much more detailed sense of Mexico City’s viability and start gathering its own data on the various logistical challenges tied to elevation, traffic, smog and security.

    “It’s a perfect opportunity to experiment with a G League franchise,” Silver said.

    Throughout much of David Stern’s 30-year tenure as N.B.A. commissioner, talk of the league expanding to Europe was frequent. Now the link between the N.B.A. and its neighbors to the south appears to have more possibility, helped along by an agreement in June 2016 with Mexican media powerhouse Televisa that brought N.B.A. games to free-to-air television, in addition to the various league broadcasts on subscription channels such as ESPN and NBA League Pass.

    The broadcast audience for the two games last week, according to the N.B.A., was estimated to reach more than 31 million TV households.

    The closeness between the countries also allows the N.B.A. to take measures that were never possible in Europe, as evidenced by the G League plans. But it will take more; Silver has said Mexico must start producing N.B.A.-level talent more frequently to properly grow the sport here.

    “I agree with that,” Llamas said. “The first step is the G League team; hopefully it has lots of Mexican players.”

    So perhaps the launch of the league’s new youth basketball and training academy — its seventh such academy globally — will prove to be the pivotal domino in distinguishing the N.B.A. from the many other top sports leagues and organizations (such as the N.F.L., Formula One and Major League Baseball) making frequent cameos here.

    “It’s early days in terms of analysis of putting an N.B.A. franchise in Mexico City,” Silver said. “There’s a lot we would need to understand about players potentially living in the market full-time and how it would work in terms of teams traveling in and out of the market before we’re ready to present that analysis to the players association and even to our owners.”

    As that analysis begins in earnest, unrestrained advocates like Najera — now a scout for the Mavericks — see no harm in dreaming big.

    “I want a team and everybody here wants a team,” Najera said. “We know that we have the economic infrastructure to have an N.B.A. team in Mexico City and we already have this beautiful arena. I really think we’re getting closer.”


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  • Albinson Linares contributed reporting from Mexico City.
 
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