Annacone: 'Roger Federer was extremely pained after that Wimbledon loss'

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
Honestly, this is something I never understand and don`t like about Federer and his entire crew.
The guy is 38 years old has over 20 Grand Slam wins and still can`t lose in a graceful manner.
Of course competitive spirit is a good thing and you wouldn`t have a career like Federer had without it.
However, at a certain point of time you should learn to appreciate the moment. At age 38 Federer was part of one of the best and most dramatic matches in tennis history.
Yes, in the end you lost but the joy of experiencing that match in that kind of atmosphere should easily outweigh your disapointment over the loss quickly.
Let me give you a comparison to illustarte my point.
The 2001 final between Rafter and Ivanisevic is as legendary as it gets. It was pure electricity. The atmopshere in that last sentence tops everything in my opionion. Go and rewatch it, it still gives me the chills.
The vast majority of the crowd was on Ivanisevic`s side and Goran was insanely emotional. As much as I like Goran, but from an opponents point of view this might have been really really annoying.
Rafter was only 29 years old but already struggling with injuries, so he most likely knew that he would not get many more chances like this. His short career in the top ranks was coming to an end. So no one could have blamed him if he had been very upset and diaspointed after the loss.
However, Rafter`s reaction to the loss was totally different. He immidately realized that he has just been part of something great. Look how he behaved during tat last sentence. Look how he congratulates Ivanisevic after the loss. Look at the smile on his face. Look how he conducted himself after the match. No bitterness, just pure class and sportsmanship.
Yet, on the other hand you have a guy like Federer who despite all his victories ist still behaves like a junior after such a loss. He still looks as if he is about to cry, he still can`t overcome the bitterness, even one year later.
I think "greatness" is not only about winning, it`s also about how you lose and conduct yourself in difficult moments.

That's the best post about the Federer enigma i've ever came across on any tennis forum.

You summed up perfectly why millions of people stopped identifying with him a long time ago already.
 
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terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
It's the attitude needed in order to be one of the best in the world at the professional level in any sport. Nadal and Djokovic likewise are willing to die on the court at times.

Have Nole and Nadal ever used the expression used by Fed multiple times "It"s killing me" ?

That word "killing" has no place in tennis: it's only head case Roger utilizing it over and over again to create self-interest in his deluded idea of being a tough guy in the real world.

The person has some deep issues.
 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
Actualy, i'm way more obsessed with the internet trolls attempting to paint in white what's black.

And the media mouthpieces going along with it too.
Are we supposed to enlighten people about what is black and white by posting random 40-15 threads?


Oh no that's exactly why Rafael's extreme self centered nature or Novak's spiritual buffonery is under extreme attack from you.



I checked your posting history,too much Fed in it.

You are either Federer fanatic gathering sympathy for the guy by pretending to hate him, similar to what that DjokoGOAT guy is doing, or you genuinely hate the guy too much.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
You are either Federer fanatic gathering sympathy for the guy by pretending to hate him, similar to what that DjokoGOAT guy is doing, or you genuinely hate the guy too much.

I don't hate Fed the person, but i hate what he stands for.

The guy has a totally warped sense of reality. He shouldn't be cited as a model for others.

And a lot of people are getting sick of the supposedly Federer model role image surrounding the tennis world.


 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
The guy has a totally warped sense of reality. He shouldn't be cited as a model for others.


Trust me , most of tennis players have warped sense of reality. They have had almost little to no proper social interaction or education since the age of 8-9.

The idea of "Federer" as built and formed over the years is something one can have as a role model. I don't see anything wrong with it.

But I am 100 % sure Federer the real man doesn't live up to it. For what is worth , no one from the general public will probably ever get to differentiate between the "idea" and the "reality". The "talented humble perfectionist artist" image he has will stay intact

At least unlike many actors/actresses and sports star, Fed has managed to not destroy this persona of his in over 15 years of exposure.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
Federer has never quit in a match unlike his 2 biggest rivals who've done so countless times.

Are you sure about that ?

Fed quits by repeatedly going for too much, spraying UE all over the place.

He elevated it to an art form vs Robredo in his quit job at USO 2013.
 

FatHead250

Professional
Trust me , most of tennis players have warped sense of reality. They have had almost little to no proper social interaction or education since the age of 8-9.

The idea of "Federer" as built and formed over the years is something one can have as a role model. I don't see anything wrong with it.

But I am 100 % sure Federer the real man doesn't live up to it. For what is worth , no one from the general public will probably ever get to differentiate between the "idea" and the "reality". The "talented humble perfectionist artist" image he has will stay intact

At least unlike many actors/actresses and sports star, Fed has managed to not destroy this persona of his in over 15 years of exposure.
whats that? a list of things of things you tell to yourself not to feel bad about yourself? . im sure Federer is more intelligent than an average person. remember when he told the umpire about why the ball bounced twice fore berdych hit it? thats science background to you.
 
I don't hate Fed the person, but i hate what he stands for.

The guy has a totally warped sense of reality. He shouldn't be cited as a model for others.

And a lot of people are getting sick of the supposedly Federer model role image surrounding the tennis world


Wobi säbig satirischs Video en keinschter Wiis Dine Ponkt onderstricht, sondern em Gägeteil eher ufzeigt, dass Du en rigide Stock em Arsch ometreisch, söscht wördsch Di deswäge, also wägm Roger Federer, wohl ned grad derart ereifere...Du stosch eifach of de andere Siite vom Spektrom, aber das hesch jo emmerhen scho zuegä: "i hate"
 
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Deleted member 629564

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Annacone: 'Roger Federer was extremely pained after that Wimbledon loss'

Come on, guys, it's obvious.

Literally nobody would be able to avoid mental pain after THAT kind of loss.
Having double MP on the fastest surface (favourite one).
Having double MP on his own serve.
Having double MP against his greatest nemesis.
Having double MP surrounded by extremely supporting crowd.

Nobody.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
My most painful loss personally was blowing match point with a flubbed putaway volley in a mixed doubles match, made worse because had I won, our team would have won the team match 2-1 against the first place team and advanced to the playoffs. Letting my team down made it so much worse.

In Roger’s case, he feels terrible because he let down his millions of fans.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Are you sure about that ?

Fed quits by repeatedly going for too much, spraying UE all over the place.

He elevated it to an art form vs Robredo in his quit job at USO 2013.
He gave Robredo his rightful win. So therefore it's not quitting. Plus Federer sucked in 2013 and was losing to a lot of players.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Have Nole and Nadal ever used the expression used by Fed multiple times "It"s killing me" ?

That word "killing" has no place in tennis: it's only head case Roger utilizing it over and over again to create self-interest in his deluded idea of being a tough guy in the real world.

The person has some deep issues.
Ok :whistle:
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Well i know that this is a hard concept for many people here. But when I talk about Federer it does not mean that I am drawing comparisons to Djokovic and Nadal. I was strictly talking about Federer`s behavior. I did not say that Djokovic or Nadal would have behaved better or even worse. That`s a point that can be discussed obviously, but I don`t think it fits the topic of the thread, nor did I have any intentions to do so.
LOL you were just comparing Federer's behaviour after the Wimbledon 2019 finals to Patrick Rafter's behaviour after that Wimbledon 2001 final!! :-D :-D
Unless Federer walked off the court in a huff or smashed the runner up plate or refused an interview, there's nothing worth talking about here.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
"I don't think Roger did anything wrong other than having to try to close it out against what I think is the greatest defender in the history of the game. You can blame nerves and a lot of different things but sometimes you lose and it makes your jaw hits the table when you see how close you were.

I know he was extremely upset but I've also had conversations with him in the past about the matches against Novak at the US Open. Those losses were also tough to accept but Roger was there to remind me he also had some victories that he should not have scored."


And their fans repeat to the point how many matches he should have won; some are so irrational that they give him 30 or more Majors.
Bah!
:rolleyes:
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Are you sure about that ?

Fed quits by repeatedly going for too much, spraying UE all over the place.

He elevated it to an art form vs Robredo in his quit job at USO 2013.
You have a point. His loss to Dimitrov last year was so disgraceful he made brainless ball bashers around the world feel better about themselves.
 
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