Any other Fed fans content with Djokovic's win at the US Open?

illkhiboy

Hall of Fame
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/539496-roger-federer-down-appreciating-his-failures-in-2010-pt-2

The US Open final was arguably the better match. The first two and a half sets of the Djokovic-Nadal encounter were high quality, before Djokovic ran out of gas and the result was never in doubt. There was also the aspect of Nadal going for the Career Slam, and it made for a tremendous memory for the neutral.

The semi final, however, was more dramatic. Until the final Federer forehand had gone past the sideline, you couldn’t be sure of the outcome. The match had its ups and downs, with Djokovic drawing first blood and then Federer coming back to take the opening set. Sets two and four ended up with lopsided scores for Djokovic, which Federer admitted weeks later he put in half hearted efforts to in order to conserve energy for the final.

As a Federer fan, I had half an eye on the clock throughout. It would be a feast to see a Nadal against Federer final at the US Open, but a shame if Federer was to get there depleted of energy. Inevitably, it would also take away from a Nadal win if that came to be, with many fans and experts never quite giving the challenger enough credit. And that would be a shame considering that Nadal was fully capable of beating a fresh Federer.


As it is, the evils of Super Saturday managed to bring down the quality of the match.

Federer refused to fight back in sets two and four, such was his confidence in his ability to turn it on at the right time. But Djokovic, with a finish line in sight, was up to the task.

The first four sets had lasted two and a half hours. Physically, it hadn’t been a most strenuous match. The winner would likely wrap it up in forty minutes or so and be fresh enough for the final. The stakes were high, and so were the adrenaline levels.

What followed was one of the most compelling sets of the year. What it might have lacked in quality at times, it made up for it with suspense and drama.

The rallies were wild. Djokovic tried to control center. Federer looked to dominate with his ‘fearhand.’ The Serb was equal to the task, bringing the best out of his own forehand. Federer served, scrambled and sliced to fend off the Djokovic onslaught. It worked, and then it didn’t.

At 3-3 it looked like Federer might crack under the pressure—he missed a sitter on game point, subsequently going down a break point. After multiple deuces, he managed to hang on. That looked to be the turning point as he continued to create chances on his return games.

Djokovic, whose nerve had failed him at crunch times in the first and third sets, refused to buckle. It couldn’t have been easy for him to believe he could beat Federer after having lost to him at the same venue the past three years. Perhaps that’s what helped him. Down a double match point, he swung for the fences with his “eyes closed” and struck clean forehand winners.

One shot I felt Federer did not make use of was the slice backhand up the line to Djokovic’s forehand. Djokovic’s forehand is more prone to breaking down than his backhand, and even though he was hitting it as well as he ever has that day, he was never made to deal with that nasty slice of Federer’s.

Instead Federer continued to use the slice cross court, which eventually wore out its effectiveness. Realizing that, he hit more topspin backhands, but those landed way too short and right into the Serb’s hitting zone. His forehand eventually capitulated and Djokovic got his break.

It was just the second time since 2003 that Federer had lost in three successive Slams, and as with any major defeat of his, another incredible streak came to an end. This time he was going for a 7th successive US Open final appearance. And it would be the only time in those seven years that Nadal had finally made it.

But if tennis lost out on a Nadal-Federer final in New York, it gained back Djokovic. The Serb had settled for a second tier reputation for the past two years despite hanging around in the top four, unable to get to a Slam final since the 2008 Australian Open, not to mention a number of poor losses.

He needed a big win to rejuvenate him, and beating Federer at the mammoth Arthur Ashe was a great comeback stage. It was nice to see him breakthrough again.

Federer and Nadal’s choke hold on tennis is fun to watch, but its better when their closest peers are playing lights out, or in Djokovic’s case, with their eyes closed.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
At the risk of drawing Chopin's ire, I think he lost because he tried to get a little 'cute'! LOL!

Could you give an example, I am still perplexed by Roger loss at the USO 2010. I really don't see any reason he should have lost, and it seemed as if he just simply let it go?
 
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Deleted member 77403

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My favorite match at the US Open, even as a Fed fan, I enjoyed the quality, especially in that fifth set.

I think Djokoivc did very well everytime Federer would pull ahead. In the final set, they just both went at it like two heavyweights, and I was just not sure which way it was going to go. Both looking to finish it in the end.

Roger gets to match points, and Novak plays some incredible forehands!!!! He just blasted through the court, and Roger really could do nothing on them. And when Novak got the match point, Roger I think pulled the trigger too late, and missed.

Awesome ending! I am glad that after losing three straight years, he managed to edge out a five set battle. My favorite match at the US Open! :)
 
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And here are those two match points!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N65j2A9XknY

You can see how much they both wanted to win in the end. Incredible defending from Federer, but Djokovic was not to be denied. It is shame that he was emotionally drained after this match, I think it took everything out of him to finally beat Federer.

But, what a fifth set!!!! Any fan of tennis, regardless of whether they are a fan of Federer or not, would have enjoyed the quality of it.

As a Federer fan I was sad he lost, and could not reclaim the US Open. But as a tennis fan, I was proud of what these guys put out there in the end. Best match for me!!!
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

Guest
But the best match all year was withou a doubt the YEC-final in London, what a display of greatness. You guys should feel lucky that you got to witness such amazing perfect tennis from the greatest man who ever walked the earth
 
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Deleted member 77403

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But the best match all year was withou a doubt the YEC-final in London, what a display of greatness. You guys should feel lucky that you got to witness such amazing perfect tennis from the greatest man who ever walked the earth

hehe!!

Floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee...
 

wangs78

Legend
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/539496-roger-federer-down-appreciating-his-failures-in-2010-pt-2

The US Open final was arguably the better match. The first two and a half sets of the Djokovic-Nadal encounter were high quality, before Djokovic ran out of gas and the result was never in doubt. There was also the aspect of Nadal going for the Career Slam, and it made for a tremendous memory for the neutral.

The semi final, however, was more dramatic. Until the final Federer forehand had gone past the sideline, you couldn’t be sure of the outcome. The match had its ups and downs, with Djokovic drawing first blood and then Federer coming back to take the opening set. Sets two and four ended up with lopsided scores for Djokovic, which Federer admitted weeks later he put in half hearted efforts to in order to conserve energy for the final.

As a Federer fan, I had half an eye on the clock throughout. It would be a feast to see a Nadal against Federer final at the US Open, but a shame if Federer was to get there depleted of energy. Inevitably, it would also take away from a Nadal win if that came to be, with many fans and experts never quite giving the challenger enough credit. And that would be a shame considering that Nadal was fully capable of beating a fresh Federer.


As it is, the evils of Super Saturday managed to bring down the quality of the match.

Federer refused to fight back in sets two and four, such was his confidence in his ability to turn it on at the right time. But Djokovic, with a finish line in sight, was up to the task.

The first four sets had lasted two and a half hours. Physically, it hadn’t been a most strenuous match. The winner would likely wrap it up in forty minutes or so and be fresh enough for the final. The stakes were high, and so were the adrenaline levels.

What followed was one of the most compelling sets of the year. What it might have lacked in quality at times, it made up for it with suspense and drama.

The rallies were wild. Djokovic tried to control center. Federer looked to dominate with his ‘fearhand.’ The Serb was equal to the task, bringing the best out of his own forehand. Federer served, scrambled and sliced to fend off the Djokovic onslaught. It worked, and then it didn’t.

At 3-3 it looked like Federer might crack under the pressure—he missed a sitter on game point, subsequently going down a break point. After multiple deuces, he managed to hang on. That looked to be the turning point as he continued to create chances on his return games.

Djokovic, whose nerve had failed him at crunch times in the first and third sets, refused to buckle. It couldn’t have been easy for him to believe he could beat Federer after having lost to him at the same venue the past three years. Perhaps that’s what helped him. Down a double match point, he swung for the fences with his “eyes closed” and struck clean forehand winners.

One shot I felt Federer did not make use of was the slice backhand up the line to Djokovic’s forehand. Djokovic’s forehand is more prone to breaking down than his backhand, and even though he was hitting it as well as he ever has that day, he was never made to deal with that nasty slice of Federer’s.

Instead Federer continued to use the slice cross court, which eventually wore out its effectiveness. Realizing that, he hit more topspin backhands, but those landed way too short and right into the Serb’s hitting zone. His forehand eventually capitulated and Djokovic got his break.

It was just the second time since 2003 that Federer had lost in three successive Slams, and as with any major defeat of his, another incredible streak came to an end. This time he was going for a 7th successive US Open final appearance. And it would be the only time in those seven years that Nadal had finally made it.

But if tennis lost out on a Nadal-Federer final in New York, it gained back Djokovic. The Serb had settled for a second tier reputation for the past two years despite hanging around in the top four, unable to get to a Slam final since the 2008 Australian Open, not to mention a number of poor losses.

He needed a big win to rejuvenate him, and beating Federer at the mammoth Arthur Ashe was a great comeback stage. It was nice to see him breakthrough again.

Federer and Nadal’s choke hold on tennis is fun to watch, but its better when their closest peers are playing lights out, or in Djokovic’s case, with their eyes closed.

Fed did not deserve to win that match for the following reasons:
1) He had match points, and lost them
2) He had break points to force a tiebreaker in the final set, and he lost them
3) He was up 1-0 sets, and lost the lead
4) He was up 2-1 sets, and lost the lead

When you have so many opportunities and can't capitalize, you don't deserve to win. It's called being able to CLOSE. And Fed couldn't close worth a damn that day.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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I do think Federer's AO and WTF titles were two of his most impressive ever in terms of performance. And he is supposed to be past his prime, an old man, blah-blah-blah.

I agree. But what makes me the most happy is that Federer aged 29 is still improving and I think Annacone and Roger will create wonders in 2011
 
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I agree. But what makes me the most happy is that Federer aged 29 is still improving and I think Annacone and Roger will create wonders in 2011

TMOP, I don't know if you noticed, you probably have. That edge, the eye of the tiger that Roger had lost, somehow he has got that back, the fire in the belly, and the hunger to keep playing and winning! Since working with Annacone, I have noticed subtle changes in Federer's game, and not just his body language. He seems very calm, within himself, efficient, the way he was when he started his rise to the top back in 03.

He played a very taxing indoor season, with five straight events, and never did less than a semi final, which he could have also won. Plus, he looked very relaxed going up against the top players, and in some matches just schooled them.

This is great for the game, that he still hungry for this, despite winning so much. Hopefully he will defend the AO and move on from there. I do see him with 2-3 more slams before he bid farewell to the game.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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TMOP, I don't know if you noticed, you probably have. That edge, the eye of the tiger that Roger had lost, somehow he has got that back, the fire in the belly, and the hunger to keep playing and winning! Since working with Annacone, I have noticed subtle changes in Federer's game, and not just his body language. He seems very calm, within himself, efficient, the way he was when he started his rise to the top back in 03.

He played a very taxing indoor season, with five straight events, and never did less than a semi final, which he could have also won. Plus, he looked very relaxed going up against the top players, and in some matches just schooled them.

This is great for the game, that he still hungry for this, despite winning so much. Hopefully he will defend the AO and move on from there. I do see him with 2-3 more slams before he bid farewell to the game.

Totally agree with you. Really good post. I watched him live in Stockholm, sat 5 metres from him and lemme tell you it was simply amazing :) It was as if his feet never touched the ground, and what amazed me was how high his balls went over the net except when he pulled the trigger
 
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Totally agree with you. Really good post. I watched him live in Stockholm, sat 5 metres from him and lemme tell you it was simply amazing :) It was as if his feet never touched the ground, and what amazed me was how high his balls went over the net except when he pulled the trigger

I'm sure he was! I live close to Wimbledon, so I have seen him play on holy ground! An incredible experience.

He just finally seems at peace. I think there was a period that he stopped being who he really was, always being pressured to chase the slam record, the career slam, and God Knows what other insane record. Dealing with the expectations, the media, etc.

I wonder if his new coach showed him a few things from his past, and just asked him what life was like on the court before all that pressure was on him. And somehow he recaptured it. His enthusiasm for the game, playing all those events that he probably would have skipped, and just competing for the thrill of it has triggered something I think was dormant within.
 

FTS

Banned
Joker earned it by hanging on, buy I'm one hundred percent convinced it would have been a closer final with Fedal.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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I'm sure he was! I live close to Wimbledon, so I have seen him play on holy ground! An incredible experience.

He just finally seems at peace. I think there was a period that he stopped being who he really was, always being pressured to chase the slam record, the career slam, and God Knows what other insane record. Dealing with the expectations, the media, etc.

I wonder if his new coach showed him a few things from his past, and just asked him what life was like on the court before all that pressure was on him. And somehow he recaptured it. His enthusiasm for the game, playing all those events that he probably would have skipped, and just competing for the thrill of it has triggered something I think was dormant within.

Once again, totally agree.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
Could you give an example, I am still perplexed by Roger loss at the USO 2010. I really don't see any reason he should have lost, and it seemed as if he just simply let it go?

Here's my original quote, and note that it's in reference to the 2009 US Open against Del Potro:

Well, the real thing that decided the match was Federer hitting a dropshot by the T serving at 5-4 in the second set when he could have just ripped a forehand. Game over. Set over. Match over.

Federer came out strong and put himself in a position to put Del Potro away before he even knew what was happening, but he took his foot off the gas just a little too much towards the end of the second and eventually Del Potro woke up and Fed's poor serving caught up to him.

Federer should have won the match in straights IMO. He got too cute

Federer will likely dismantle Del Potro next time they play though (in the same way that he's recently crushed both Murray and Djokovic after losing some matches to them).
and too cocky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDzTzhxl7PY

Go to 2:23 to observe that game. No way Federer should have lost that point at 30-15. If he had won it, then he's serving at 40-15 and I think he gets the job done. I doubt Del Poltro would have mustered the mental toughness to come back from two sets down, regardless of how well he was beginning to strike the ball. But after that game, Del Potro started to play a lot better, and Federer was basically spent by the fifth set. Also, even in the tiebreaker in the second set I thought Federer looked a little too casual. Arrogance blinded Federer in that one.

Best,
Chopin

P.S. Nice try K.
 
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Talker

Hall of Fame
See above post, old boy. Game, set & match.

That was about how I saw it too.
I guess it was fairly obvious as a few have said basically the same thing.

To the OP, I wasn't really impressed with Djokovic or Federer, it was a decent match but both have done quite a bit better before.

I don't think Federer would have beat Nadal had he made it to he final.
At the time Federer was regaining the form he lost during the year and wasn't there yet.
The Fed that showed up at the WTF was a more of a finished product of the last months of work, starting around Toronto.
The form Fed had at the WTF probably would have been good enough to beat Nadal at the USO.
 

illkhiboy

Hall of Fame
That was about how I saw it too.
I guess it was fairly obvious as a few have said basically the same thing.

To the OP, I wasn't really impressed with Djokovic or Federer, it was a decent match but both have done quite a bit better before.

I don't think Federer would have beat Nadal had he made it to he final.
At the time Federer was regaining the form he lost during the year and wasn't there yet.
The Fed that showed up at the WTF was a more of a finished product of the last months of work, starting around Toronto.
The form Fed had at the WTF probably would have been good enough to beat Nadal at the USO.

I agree. Except that I still think the fifth set was great drama.
 

P_Agony

Banned
I'm fine with Fed losing this match. Djokovic deserved to win it, he was more consistent with his level of play, he saved those match points brilliantly, and he took the match from Federer. Sure, it wasn't a huge tennis performance by Fed, but it was great at some points, and Djokovic just outplayed him. I got the feeling that Federer somehow underestimated Djokovic due to their past USO encounters and he take the match as seriously as he should have. Of course, he learned from that and destroyed Djoker the next 3 times they met.
 

P_Agony

Banned
That was about how I saw it too.
I guess it was fairly obvious as a few have said basically the same thing.

To the OP, I wasn't really impressed with Djokovic or Federer, it was a decent match but both have done quite a bit better before.

I don't think Federer would have beat Nadal had he made it to he final.
At the time Federer was regaining the form he lost during the year and wasn't there yet.
The Fed that showed up at the WTF was a more of a finished product of the last months of work, starting around Toronto.
The form Fed had at the WTF probably would have been good enough to beat Nadal at the USO.

Couldn't agree more with the part about WTF Federer being the complete and finished product of Paul's work.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
That was about how I saw it too.
I guess it was fairly obvious as a few have said basically the same thing.

To the OP, I wasn't really impressed with Djokovic or Federer, it was a decent match but both have done quite a bit better before.

I don't think Federer would have beat Nadal had he made it to he final.
At the time Federer was regaining the form he lost during the year and wasn't there yet.
The Fed that showed up at the WTF was a more of a finished product of the last months of work, starting around Toronto.
The form Fed had at the WTF probably would have been good enough to beat Nadal at the USO.

I agree. I don't know if Federer would have had enough left in the tank after the Djokovic match and Nadal played so well in the finals. Even at this age you still have to favor Fed at the Open over Nadal most of the time, but that's contingent on Federer having a relatively smooth ride to the finals.

In some ways, Federer was fortunate to lose in the semis to Djokovic or risk having a setback against Rafa in the finals. Likewise, I think Nadal was fortunate not to face Federer at the Open early in his career when Federer was prime. I still truly believe that had Nadal faced Federer at the open/on the faster surfaces more, the head to head would be much more even. Let's not forget that Federer still leads Nadal off of clay, 6-4.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Fed did not deserve to win that match for the following reasons:
1) He had match points, and lost them
2) He had break points to force a tiebreaker in the final set, and he lost them
3) He was up 1-0 sets, and lost the lead
4) He was up 2-1 sets, and lost the lead

When you have so many opportunities and can't capitalize, you don't deserve to win. It's called being able to CLOSE. And Fed couldn't close worth a damn that day.
Agreed. I hope it's a wake up call for the dude.

At the risk of drawing Chopin's ire, I think he lost because he tried to get a little 'cute'! LOL!
At the risk of drawing your derision, Federer is already extremely cute. He doesn;t have to try.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
Not Content with Federer loss since Djokovic didn't go all the way to the W at the US open! Djokovic hopefully wins 2 more GS (RG,US open)!
 
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