Any views on the Eagnas Hyper 220E?

[jonolau]

Does anyone here own the Eagnas Hyper 220E or ever used it before?

I would like to know your views about it's reliability, ease of stringing and speed of customer service response from Eagnas.

Thanks in advance.

Jon

 

[brucie]

Well Jon, I dont know loads about machines but I do know some of the features of thies machine are great!

Specifications:

Two-point, hold-down mounting system
Constant pull tensioning system
All-metal diamond-coated, rotational string gripper
10-90 pound tension range in both pound and kilogram scales; 4-40 kilogram tension range in kilogram scale
360 degree swivel turntable with brake
Two diamond-coated, heavy-duty dual-action thumb-adjustable stainless steel swivel clamp (fixed clamps): 2 PN-1002 tennis clamps
Handle any diagonal stringing (fan patterned frames

Many features listed are standard as you'd imagine.

Two point mounting is fine and well enough dont worry about that, you dont need 4 or 6.
But some of the Diamond coated clamps I would love to own, they will grip as good as anything.

However I guess this machine is at the top end of your budget, and if this is the case dont rule out crank machines.

 

[jonolau]

I was just going through the search function and found so many nightmare stories about Eagnas and it's customer service (or lack of it).

Perhaps I may think twice about Eagnas electronic stringers ...

However, the manual machines seem to be so much cheaper than other brands.

 

[brucie]

Hey Jon I replied to your email like i say my machine is a crank eagnas.

 

[brucie]

Here we go a Eagnas DEN 4600 thats my machine
http://www.eagnas.com/lilylee/den4600.html

 

[jonolau]

Thanks, Bruce. How often do you have to re-calibrate the machine?

 

[Mr. Blond]

Jonolau,

I would be careful about cheap electric stringers, they typically have inconsistant tensioners. The cheaper machines have a voltage controlled tensioner, so basically if you get slight variations in voltage when you press the tension button, then you will get a different tension pulled. Alternating current changes every second so, you can imagine how all of that change can wreck a stringjob. There are better motors that run off of DC current and do not vary with each pull. Then you have to concern yourself with how the reference tension is measured and how the machine locks out. The cheaper machines use a spring similar to a crank which is fine, but they can not compensate for string stretch and repull to achieve constant tension. That in fact, is the main drawback to cranks, is that they are not constant pull. They hit the reference tension and lock out.
High end electric machines use a load cell to measure tension, which is basically a computer measurment that controls the pull. If the tension drops, the pull is increased for a constant pull at the reference tension. This is why electric machines with load cells produce much nicer results. I mentioned a drop weight machine in your other post from eagnas that will meet your needs perfectly and wont cost too much to get. Also, it could later be upgraded to a constant pull electric head with just two screws later if you decide to. I hope this helps.

 

[theace21]

Jonolau,

You are doing your research - I would never reccomend anyone buy these cheap electric stringers. Set your budget - buy the best machine you can afford. What happens when these bargain electric motors stop working, how long can you afford to be without a stringer. You get what you pay for.

 

[jonolau]

Thanks to both Labit and theace21.

The reliability factor was kind of weighing at the back of my mind. The atmosphere in the tropics is not exactly conducive for temperamental electronics.

This further solidifies my resolve to get a mechanical stringer.

This brings my choice down to the Gamma X-ST. I've only just received a reply from the distributor that this will cost me US$950 delivered. I nearly fell off my chair.

The Eagnas Smart-909 may only cost me US$750 delivered.

Okay, the idiom here is "penny wise, pound foolish".

So, maybe I should just fork out the extra 200 for peace of mind.

Oh no, I'm beginning to talk to myself ... not a good sign.

 

[brucie]

Thanks, Bruce. How often do you have to re-calibrate the machine?

To be honest I havent yet tension seems right compared to other jobs so havent done it yet i will try soon though

 

[diredesire]

Thanks to both Labit and theace21.

The reliability factor was kind of weighing at the back of my mind. The atmosphere in the tropics is not exactly conducive for temperamental electronics.

This further solidifies my resolve to get a mechanical stringer.

This brings my choice down to the Gamma X-ST. I've only just received a reply from the distributor that this will cost me US$950 delivered. I nearly fell off my chair.

The Eagnas Smart-909 may only cost me US$750 delivered.

Okay, the idiom here is "penny wise, pound foolish".

So, maybe I should just fork out the extra 200 for peace of mind.

Oh no, I'm beginning to talk to myself ... not a good sign.

I'd try and contact all dealers you can find, and see how much shipping will be to singapore. If it is still outrageous (as you can sometimes expect a %50 percent + charge on the shipping), you can find someone in the U.S. willing to help you out. I would wager a guess that you could get it shipped to you for ~$100 USD

 

[jonolau]

I'd try and contact all dealers you can find, and see how much shipping will be to singapore. If it is still outrageous (as you can sometimes expect a %50 percent + charge on the shipping), you can find someone in the U.S. willing to help you out. I would wager a guess that you could get it shipped to you for ~$100 USD

DD, you are absolutely spot on with the advice. I tried contacting some of them and have gotten more reasonable quotes including freight delivered to Singapore. It's a pity TW doesn't sell the Gamma machines, if not I'd have purchased it from them along with some frames.

 

[Mr. Blond]

I'd try and contact all dealers you can find, and see how much shipping will be to singapore. If it is still outrageous (as you can sometimes expect a %50 percent + charge on the shipping), you can find someone in the U.S. willing to help you out. I would wager a guess that you could get it shipped to you for ~$100 USD

I agree with Dire, If you could get a friend to recieve it for you then ship it to you, it must be cheaper in frieght than what you have been quoted.