Biomimetic 200 Plus

cjwtennis

New User
I want to know if anyone has hit with the 200 Plus looks like a great racquet, but want to know what it feels like and spin with the 18 x 20 pattern.
 

cjwtennis

New User
I guess nobody has hit with this racquet, or they really didn't like it, if anyone had please give some feedback.
 

atatu

Legend
Demos have been out for awhile, read the review on this one for more information. I did demo it, all I can say is that it was not for me, it felt a bit stiff and underpowered, but that could be due to a number of factors. I really wanted to like this frame, because the specs are appealing.
 

cjwtennis

New User
Atatu,
That is what I like to hear, I'm looking for something that has a 98 to 100 sq. inch head size, but isn't a pure drive and as much as I love it, it is hard to flatten the ball out. Any sticks that you like in that size range?
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
I demoed it and I liked it but not as much as I'd hoped. The specs are spot on: 100 + thin beam + 11oz unstrung + 18x20! First thing is the head shape - very unusual. It looked much rounder on the net?! In reality it is very elliptical. It felt really solid, groundies were great. SS was ok but a bit low-ish. This low-ish ss and the head shape were the real deal breaker for me.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
I demoed it and I liked it but not as much as I'd hoped. The specs are spot on: 100 + thin beam + 11oz unstrung + 18x20! First thing is the head shape - very unusual. It looked much rounder on the net?! In reality it is very elliptical. It felt really solid, groundies were great. SS was ok but a bit low-ish. This low-ish ss and the head shape were the real deal breaker for me.

And you say I'm picky? :)
"Head shape" is a deal breaker? I am assuming you will never play a Yonex then.
 

Mig1NC

Professional
Would you say it was more elliptical than other Dunlop sticks like the 300T or even Vantage sticks?

From the description, one would think that it was more rounder than that.
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
Would you say it was more elliptical than other Dunlop sticks like the 300T or even Vantage sticks?

From the description, one would think that it was more rounder than that.

Well, I am not familiar with Vantage racquets. However, it has nothing to do with say mfil 200 or aerogel 200. I don't know maybe I didn't expect that from the 200 line. I would really like to hear what other people have to say about 200P. Maybe it was just me?!
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
And you say I'm picky? :)
"Head shape" is a deal breaker? I am assuming you will never play a Yonex then.

Hahahahhaha, good one! :) and I don't say you are picky, I just enjoy your racquet quest ;)

PS you are right about Yonex + it felt weird on my bh side (1hbh):)
 

lwto

Hall of Fame
I bought one.. I"m waiting for it right now from UPS, there are other places that have had them in stock for a little while.
Gads I hope I like this :)
 

Hidious

Professional
And you say I'm picky? :)
"Head shape" is a deal breaker? I am assuming you will never play a Yonex then.
He's not alone, head shape is one of the most important thing for me on a racquet. It just has to feel right. You are right, i've never even considered Yonex because of this.
 

Fedace

Banned
If Davydenko switched to this frame and is playing this well with it as he is doing in Paris,,,,,this racket must be a AWsome frame. because Pros usually don't make the transition to another racket this fast...
there is this Honeymoon period. but Davy seem to gotten over it already...
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
Well, I am not familiar with Vantage racquets. However, it has nothing to do with say mfil 200 or aerogel 200. I don't know maybe I didn't expect that from the 200 line. I would really like to hear what other people have to say about 200P. Maybe it was just me?!
I haven't hit with it, but it's not just you. The product description page actually reads "rounder head shape," but the photo next to it is of a frame every bit as elongated as any recent Dunlop. Maybe earlier in the development process they were planning something closer to Davydenko's Prince frame, and the marketing copy stayed the same after the frame design changed?
 

lwto

Hall of Fame
Got it.. what I like is that the width of the basket is about the same as a 98 racquet, more specifically my kblade 98. The length is longer which is a good thing.. should equate to a bigger hitting area. My offhits tend to be length wise no width wise anyway.

But it's a beautiful racquet to say the least. and I cannot wait to try it out.

I normally get the 43/8 but got the 1/4, which I'm glad I did, I think the 3/8 would be too big.
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
Got it.. what I like is that the width of the basket is about the same as a 98 racquet, more specifically my kblade 98. The length is longer which is a good thing.. should equate to a bigger hitting area. My offhits tend to be length wise no width wise anyway.

But it's a beautiful racquet to say the least. and I cannot wait to try it out.

I normally get the 43/8 but got the 1/4, which I'm glad I did, I think the 3/8 would be too big.

Yes, it looks simply beautiful!

Lwto, PLEASE do me a favor and share your opinion here when you get a chance to give it a test-drive. I thought the sweetspot was low and I would like to know if I am tripin' :)
 

lwto

Hall of Fame
Yes, it looks simply beautiful!

Lwto, PLEASE do me a favor and share your opinion here when you get a chance to give it a test-drive. I thought the sweetspot was low and I would like to know if I am tripin' :)

OH I will, Unfortunetly, I live in Seattle..It rains and looks like rain for the next week. :(

I can tell you right now that its alittle heavier than I thought it would be. I like my racquets generally no heavier than 11.7, after and over wrap and dampner its going to be around 11.8 or 9.

Which makes me ask this question.. do not the racquet companies realize that we all use over grips? I mean we all do or at least 90 percent of us do don't we? Everyone I know uses a over grip.. So I ask whats the purpose of the gecko grip.. they should have a gecko overgrip.
 

lwto

Hall of Fame
OH also.. alot of the dimpling they go on about is NOT on the leading edge, but on the face of the racquet. I would have thought the dimpling needs to be on the leading edges of the racquet. The black on the racquet is not dimpled.. just the blue.
 
Just picked up a demo of this racquet. With 4 3/8 grip, one Wilson Pro Overgrip, and one rubberband dampener it weighs in at 11.9. The Pure Drive Roddick demo with the same add-ons weighs in at 11.8. My leaded YT Radical MP's weigh in at 11.75, so not too far off normal. I have yet to hit with either of the demos.
 

alexwawrinka

New User
Just picked up a demo of this racquet. With 4 3/8 grip, one Wilson Pro Overgrip, and one rubberband dampener it weighs in at 11.9. The Pure Drive Roddick demo with the same add-ons weighs in at 11.8. My leaded YT Radical MP's weigh in at 11.75, so not too far off normal. I have yet to hit with either of the demos.



Did you notice a difference in grip size between the PD Roddick and Bio 200PLUS ?
 
Just picked up a demo of this racquet. With 4 3/8 grip, one Wilson Pro Overgrip, and one rubberband dampener it weighs in at 11.9. The Pure Drive Roddick demo with the same add-ons weighs in at 11.8. My leaded YT Radical MP's weigh in at 11.75, so not too far off normal. I have yet to hit with either of the demos.

Just got done hitting with the 200 Plus. Really liked the head shape and string pattern combo which does generate plenty of spin. The racquet feels both stable and smooth with a generous sweet spot and decent plow through on slightly off-center hits. Volleys also felt very stable as did defensive slice backhands. I could not really tell much difference in the additional weight of my current stick. The 200 Plus is harsher, but more stable than the YT Rad MP I'm using now, and was way less harsh than the PDR. It is an extremely low powered and very control oriented racquet but I felt like my footwork and timing had to be better with the YT Rad MP. The PDR was way less demanding of the three, but the 200 Plus was not far behind. I did not get a chance to serve with either demo. I would use this racquet in a heartbeat if it were less stiff and more powerful. Both demos were strung with Wilson NXT 17.
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
Just got done hitting with the 200 Plus. Really liked the head shape and string pattern combo which does generate plenty of spin. The racquet feels both stable and smooth with a generous sweet spot and decent plow through on slightly off-center hits. Volleys also felt very stable as did defensive slice backhands. I could not really tell much difference in the additional weight of my current stick. The 200 Plus is harsher, but more stable than the YT Rad MP I'm using now, and was way less harsh than the PDR. It is an extremely low powered and very control oriented racquet but I felt like my footwork and timing had to be better with the YT Rad MP. The PDR was way less demanding of the three, but the 200 Plus was not far behind. I did not get a chance to serve with either demo. I would use this racquet in a heartbeat if it were less stiff and more powerful. Both demos were strung with Wilson NXT 17.

You should definitely try 200P with some nicer strings. NXT is terrible string and it plays dead. 200P has a lot of power. The one I tried was strung with Dunlop Silk and it played really nice...
 

lwto

Hall of Fame
I"m not sure what they are saying about the lack of power.. I just hit some with it and balls were rockets coming off the racquet, frozen ropes. Didn't float. I use hurricane pro with forten sweet 17 on the crosses. I also put about 3 grams at the 3/9 spots.

I liked it.. very stable very solid.

In fact it does have a very very similar feel to by kblade 98 with a little more forgiveness.
 
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lwto

Hall of Fame
The thing is, I for the hell of it weighed it up to 12.5 ounces with 7 pts hd light.

usually that would just kill me, but it seemed the heavier I put it.. the faster and easier the swing, I had no problems swinging it at 12.5. Kinda scarey, I mean I was able to whip it like it was 1 ounce lighter.
 
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