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Badabing888

Hall of Fame
Maybe I didn't express myself well enough. I was interested in the problems of the most recent MacBook Pro as I use one. The issue with the keyboard is known to me as it needed to go back under warranty to have it changed. I will see if any of the other issues comes up.

It is interesting whether he has experienced already major issues with the power line going next to the data line, or he is debating it on principle.

My older MacBook Pro (2015) didn't/doesn't (as now one of the kids is using it) have any of the issues he talks about, so I guess I am that one lucky guy he was talking about. It is a very stable machine that doesn't overheat and is an overall very nice package.

His considerations about older models are interesting, but most of them sound like he is trying hard to make a point, rather than to underline some issues: discussing batteries on 7 years old models. Really? Most people that need to work extensively on their laptops change them every 5 years (max).

Still, thank you for the video. At least it is interesting to hear what guys that deal with the repairs of these things think.

:cool:

My 15 inch MacBook Pro late 2013 still has it’s original battery. But it’s only gone through 114 cycles and still around 97-99% capacity.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Can you recommend a desktop for linux ? Something not expensive or too high-end since I am only developing stuff in Terminal (no gaming).

Just use a Windows machine and enable Hyper V hypervisor, and run a supported Linux VM on it, like Ubuntu. No one cares about platforms anymore with the spread of virtualization and containers.
 
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Chadalina

Guest
Can you recommend a desktop for linux ? Something not expensive or too high-end since I am only developing stuff in Terminal (no gaming).

Anything with usbs works. I was using an old core 2 duo 2.8 and it was fine for everything except certain videos and streaming.

I build my own comps. My last one cost me around $300 but i had the case and power supply already.

A really nice cpu and the best thing is it has a built in video card on it, i have two of these. Great cpu cooler comes with it, never gets above 40c - $87
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Radeon-Graphics/dp/B079D3DBNM

Good basic mobo, only has two mem slots but i only need 8 gigs - $75
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-ProSeries-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-B450M/dp/B07FJ8V8FV

I like gskill for memory, anything ddr4 and 2400mhz + is fine. think i paid $75 for mine.

I got a M2 drive for $60, they are 6x faster than a ssd. Ssd's are 10x faster than normal harddrives and around $30.

If you cant build your own, link some that you find and i'll judge them.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Just use a Windows machine and enable Hyper V hypervisor, and run a supported Linux VM on it, like Ubuntu. No one cares about platforms anymore with the spread of virtualization and containers.
Doesn't that make it slower ?

I do remember in 1995 buying a PC and istalling Slackware on it. Got it from the PC World magazine.
Later moved to Redhat till finally my bro persuaded me to buy a MBP. I've never had issues with Macs but now i don't want to spend upward of INR 100K if I can get a decent desktop for about 50-60K.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
My 15 inch MacBook Pro late 2013 still has it’s original battery. But it’s only gone through 114 cycles and still around 97-99% capacity.
thats exactly what i have but the cycle count is 1410.

How did you manage to keep it low ?

Do you keep it on the adapter at all times or do you disconnect at 80% and reconnect at 20?
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Doesn't that make it slower ?

I do remember in 1995 buying a PC and istalling Slackware on it. Got it from the PC World magazine.
Later moved to Redhat till finally my bro persuaded me to buy a MBP. I've never had issues with Macs but now i don't want to spend upward of INR 100K if I can get a decent desktop for about 50-60K.

New PC are so fast now with SSD and M2 interfaces, it pretty much instantaneous for pretty much general computer use. I have 4 year old workstation with 4790 CPU, 32GB RAM, 1050TI 4GB graphics card and plain 1TB SSD everything is still fast!
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Doesn't that make it slower ?

I do remember in 1995 buying a PC and istalling Slackware on it. Got it from the PC World magazine.
Later moved to Redhat till finally my bro persuaded me to buy a MBP. I've never had issues with Macs but now i don't want to spend upward of INR 100K if I can get a decent desktop for about 50-60K.

VMs do run slightly slower but with modern hardware support in the processor like VT-X, they can be very fast. Degradation is said to be 1 to 10%.
 

Badabing888

Hall of Fame
thats exactly what i have but the cycle count is 1410.

How did you manage to keep it low ?

Do you keep it on the adapter at all times or do you disconnect at 80% and reconnect at 20?


Put a reminder on my phone to unplug MagSafe once a month and only drain battery to say 60% and then recharge it. Battery is happiest between 40% and 85%. It’s the depth of charge that matters to cycles of battery in apple macbooks. Never allow the battery to drop below 20% and certainly not to 0%. If you keep draining it to 0% and then recharging it to 100% then that is one full cycle. You do that over a number of years and that’s where the wear and tear of the battery happens and once you hit 1000 cycles your battery will be 80% of the capacity of when it was new.

Also worth downloading Battery health app for your MacBook Pro to check health of battery.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Battery is happiest between 40% and 85%. It’s the depth of charge that matters to cycles of battery in apple macbooks. Never allow the battery to drop below 20% and certainly not to 0%. If you keep draining it to 0% and then recharging it to 100% then that is one full cycle.
I've been reading a lot about this. Seems it is not true that you can avoid the cycles. If you charge two times from 20 to 70, that is also a full cycle.

I tried coconut battery or something (during the snow leopard days) like that a few years back. Kept telling me to charge at 20 and disconnect at 80. That's difficult if you are giong to sleep/out and it wants to charge, or you are going out and it wants you not to charge. So i shut it.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
New PC are so fast now with SSD and M2 interfaces, it pretty much instantaneous for pretty much general computer use. I have 4 year old workstation with 4790 CPU, 32GB RAM, 1050TI 4GB graphics card and plain 1TB SSD everything is still fast!
But by running linux inside windows, aren't you still running something stable inside something unstable.
When I had linux, i often had uptimes of many months. But a Windows machine had to be rebooted all the time. I don't know if things have changed a lot since the early 2000's as far a Windows is concerned.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Using my iPad Pro more these days than my MBP. But when I do use my MacBook Pro then yes I keep it on charge and invariably 100% and unplug once a month.
I used to keep my previous MBP plugged in at all times. When i called up Apple once about the battery giving issues the support guy told me I was obviously a very aggressive battery user !

I'll keep it plugged in and see after a week how it goes.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
But by running linux inside windows, aren't you still running something stable inside something unstable.
When I had linux, i often had uptimes of many months. But a Windows machine had to be rebooted all the time. I don't know if things have changed a lot since the early 2000's as far a Windows is concerned.
From my experience and what I read only the internet, Windows 10 version is now consider a very stable operating system. It is used in critical use situations worldwide. Of course you have to guard against spyware, virus, ransomware, etc... still but the nature of Google search, porn sites, etc... If you use it with VPN for internet, it pretty safe that you will not have anything bad happen to your PC.
 
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Badabing888

Hall of Fame
I've been reading a lot about this. Seems it is not true that you can avoid the cycles. If you charge two times from 20 to 70, that is also a full cycle.

Yeah there's no way you can avoid the cycles. So yes charging between 20 and 70 twice counts as 1 full cycle. The ions in the battery need to move hence why I take it off charge say once/twice a month and let it drain slightly to 60% before replugging it and charging it back to 100% (probably not strictly the best for the battery if it's happiest between 40-80%), so that's 40% and it will take at 2.5 times draining to that to count as one full cycle. But I am not a heavy user of my macbook pro anymore; mainly used it to store by stuff and for work when working from home. But I have been using this method of preserving the battery for the last 5 years and the battery is still in excellent condition.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
But by running linux inside windows, aren't you still running something stable inside something unstable.
When I had linux, i often had uptimes of many months. But a Windows machine had to be rebooted all the time. I don't know if things have changed a lot since the early 2000's as far a Windows is concerned.

Windows 10 is very stable. Now, Windows gets more security patches, and some of them require reboots, but that is the price you have to pay for convenience.
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
The new Mac Pro and 32” 6K display is targeted at the video editing industry e.g. Hollywood movie editors, high end video production producers and generally anybody that needs a high end graphics PC. The top of line models will top $50K. It suppose to be available in the Fall but you can order the items online.

The visual effects studios I've been to all ran Autodesk software on high end PCs. Was working on a super tight deadline. Did not see one single Mac.
 
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Chadalina

Guest
What convenience ?

Win10 is spyware, they actually mislabel what its actually doing. I have one ssd for it because my video game needs it, use the linux one for my real stuff.

Even when you disable all the checkbox, win10 is like nah were doing it anyways, we will just call it skype or something.

Never the less im on win10 now to play my video game, it also has nextpvr, lets me record tv shows off my iptv. Most people dont need windows, broswer, media player and email client for the majority.

What i like most about the peppermint updater (ubuntu core) is when i do an update, it updates everything, not just my os. Does my firefox and other apps as well
 
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