Dropshot contact point height

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
In terms of deciding when and where to dropshot, does contact height matter? I'm guessing it doesn't matter when you are really close to the net. But how about just inside the baseline? If contact point is below chest height, is dropshot low percentage? I seem to only remember pros hitting dropshot at baseline with relatively high contact point.
 

Dragy

Legend
I seem to only remember pros hitting dropshot at baseline with relatively high contact point.
With pros there are different factors, like timing, like balls never drop low early enough, etc.

In my experience, hip high is great — you don’t need to crouch yet. Also drop shot is moving slow and arcing. Lower the contact — lower the arc, lower the bounce, more natural drop shot.
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
I prefer shoulder height or lower. Otherwise it is difficult to put much slice/underspin on the ball and I'm forced to use more sidespin.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
In terms of deciding when and where to dropshot, does contact height matter? I'm guessing it doesn't matter when you are really close to the net. But how about just inside the baseline? If contact point is below chest height, is dropshot low percentage? I seem to only remember pros hitting dropshot at baseline with relatively high contact point.
At your level, the main factor for when to dropshot:

1. Have you forced your opponent into a defensive position meaning you've pushed him off balance in some way whether that means you've driven him back deep behind the baseline or lunging laterally off to the side where it's going to take him extra time to recover his balance?
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
At your level, the main factor for when to dropshot:

1. Have you forced your opponent into a defensive position meaning you've pushed him off balance in some way whether that means you've driven him back deep behind the baseline or lunging laterally off to the side where it's going to take him extra time to recover his balance?
Court position is part one and I have no problem with that. Part two is execution which depends a lot on the incoming ball. I suspect my UE dropshots can be due to attempting dropshots on the wrong balls, hence the thread.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Court position is part one and I have no problem with that. Part two is execution which depends a lot on the incoming ball. I suspect my UE dropshots can be due to attempting dropshots on the wrong balls, hence the thread.
If you can get your opponent off balance, the ball that they hit back will be weaker and easier to execute a successful drop shot off of. In fact, if you get their weight and balance moving backwards or to one side, your dropshot execution doesn’t even need to be that good. If you’re making UEs on your dropshot attempts, it usually means your window to execute the dropshot is too “narrow” and if your window is too “narrow,” that would mean you are attempting to hit a dropper off the wrong ball.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
I’m wondering if drop shots can be used more often as rec players are not usually very agile. I mean not only when they’re really pushed wide or back, which is more relevant in pro tennis. Even when a rec player gets to a good drop shot ball there’s a high chance he’ll hit a weak ball if not an error anyway.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I’m wondering if drop shots can be used more often as rec players are not usually very agile. I mean not only when they’re really pushed wide or back, which is more relevant in pro tennis. Even when a rec player gets to a good drop shot ball there’s a high chance he’ll hit a weak ball if not an error anyway.
Most rec players don’t have the type of racquet face control which often leads to popping the ball up too high so it hangs in the air for too long that even players who are not agile can get to if they are not off balance. Good shot selection is important at all levels. When you choose to execute any shot in the wrong situation, the quality of the shot execution has to be much higher to have the desired outcome and therefore the difficulty of the shot is greatly increased and the window for success is much smaller.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
Most rec players don’t have the type of racquet face control which often leads to popping the ball up too high so it hangs in the air for too long that even players who are not agile can get to if they are not off balance. Good shot selection is important at all levels. When you choose to execute any shot in the wrong situation, the quality of the shot execution has to be much higher to have the desired outcome and therefore the difficulty of the shot is greatly increased and the window for success is much smaller.
Sure. That’s why I said a good drop shot, which is also not that common in rec tennis, you’re right.
 

badmice2

Professional
hitting drop shot from higher contact from baseline = easier to disguise the shot.

The lower the contact point, the more oblivious you will likely slice, which takes the element of surprise away.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Sure. That’s why I said a good drop shot, which is also not that common in rec tennis, you’re right.
Old guys drop shot a lot because they have learned from experience that very few rec players move well up/down. Young uns don’t because they haven’t learned this yet.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Court position is part one and I have no problem with that. Part two is execution which depends a lot on the incoming ball. I suspect my UE dropshots can be due to attempting dropshots on the wrong balls, hence the thread.
There are no rules. You have to know what you can execute and make shot selection choices accordingly. If you practice more hitting drop shots off higher contact points, you will become better at it. An advanced player has practiced hitting every shot off various contact heights.
 
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Curious

G.O.A.T.
Old guys drop shot a lot because they have learned from experience that very few rec players move well up/down. Young uns don’t because they haven’t learned this yet.
Remember I said I would try more in my matches last weekend? I did and hit about 10 in 3 sets. I won all 5 that went in. And guess what? The remaining 5 were too short!
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Remember I said I would try more in my matches last weekend? I did and hit about 10 in 3 sets. I won all 5 that went in. And guess what? The remaining 5 were too short!
Move forward through contact on drop shots like you do on other shots (or you are supposed to) and they won’t be short. If you stop your feet and weight transfer too early, that’s when you leave them short.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
Move forward through contact on drop shots like you do on other shots (or you are supposed to) and they won’t be short. If you stop your feet and weight transfer too early, that’s when you leave them short.
I thought It was due to fear of hitting a high floater. More mental than technique. Because I can hit much better ones in practice.
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
There are no rules. You have to know what you can execute and make shot selection choices accordingly. If you practice more hitting drop shots off higher contact points, you will become better at it. An advanced player has practiced hitting every shot off various contact heights.
I'm watching videos. most shots in no-man's-land seem to be hit at chest height to head height. Most of the low ones are hit well within the service box.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I'm watching videos. most shots in no-man's-land seem to be hit at chest height to head height. Most of the low ones are hit well within the service box.
Well, just like a passing shot, you want to hit drop shots as early as possible to take time away from the opponent as then it makes them more effective. So, if you learn to hit them early when the ball hasn’t dropped down, they will be more effective and give your opponent less time to get them. On the other hand, you don’t want to do this unless you have practiced enough to be confident of your execution of them.
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
Well, just like a passing shot, you want to hit drop shots as early as possible to take time away from the opponent as then it makes them more effective. So, if you learn to hit them early when the ball hasn’t dropped down, they will be more effective and give your opponent less time to get them. On the other hand, you don’t want to do this unless you have practiced enough to be confident of your execution of them.
Maybe I should get a ball machine session to map out what balls cause issue for me.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Maybe I should get a ball machine session to map out what balls cause issue for me.
If you learn to hit a good slice with a high contact point, then you can learn to hit a good dropper at the same height also. Just abbreviate the follow through of your slice and make your hands ‘softer’.
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
Happen to see Linda noskova failed to drop shot a knee height faster ball on the rise in no-man's-land at Madrid. Maybe pros occasionally make same mistake as I do
 

ppma

Professional
From my experience at embarrasingly pathetic recreative leve the most important factors are disguise and tactical decision on the placement. Also, not thinking that the point is won and getting ready for the DS return is an important factor.
Also, disguise is an element that comes along with having a wide range of shots. For example, my opponents can't tell if I'm attempting a backhand and even forehand slice to the base line or a dropshot, so sometimes they just stay back when it's a DS or come to the net when it's a long slice. My disguise from TS forehand or BH is BAD, but I use the slice forehand quite often (wicked sidespin).

Now, answering, I believe that anywhere above the net height is great if you can give some underspin with minimum loopy trajectory.
 
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