Fabulous Four's Redistribution of Wealth

namelessone

Legend
Nope,

world cup football ( called soccer, the real football) is the most watched sport event, and the biggest party, in the world. There is no argument about that.

I don't know about that and I say this as a big football fan.

Fifa figures say that the last World Cup was watched by about 3.2 billion people(obviously you can't have an exact number on these things) live for at least a minute.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1064369/fifa-reveals-2010-viewing-figures

This site says that the Beijing games had about 4.7 billion.

http://www.co.terra.com/olympics2008/interna/0,,OI3272992-EI12185,00.html
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Are there honestly still some people who don't realize that football (or soccer if you wish) is the most popular sport in the world? Talk about being ignorant.

Honestly I'm as far as being a football fan as humanly possible(I'd rather watch a paint dry than a football match) but that's just common knowledge.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
Hat's off to Nameless one (honestly) for putting rock solidt point in this debate.

Lol at DRII for the back pedaling and that subtle (europe's economy is in shambles, therefore USA rocks) triple jump in conversation...
 
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DRII

G.O.A.T.
If insecure Euros would like to hold on to the boring sport of soccer to reminisce about vestiges of long lost hegemony; more power to you...

You all certainly need something!
 

sdont

Legend
If insecure Euros would like to hold on to the boring sport of soccer to reminisce about vestiges of long lost hegemony; more power to you...

You all certainly need something!

So DRII, what about Super Bowl viewership? Did you look it up?
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
So DRII, what about Super Bowl viewership? Did you look it up?

i did and the rest of you are still a insecure bankrupt euro and NFL just matches better with nachos!!!

i win!!!
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
There are differing accounts, just as there are for the World Cup and Euro soccer league matches.

But the consensus is that the Super Bowl is the most watched 'single' sporting event. While the World Cup or the Olympics have more viewers over a longer period...
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
i did and the rest of you are still a insecure bankrupt euro and NFL just matches better with nachos!!!

i win!!!

nachos, really?

shows how little you know...

Humor requires some inherent knowledge of what you're joking!
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
nachos, really?

shows how little you know...

Humor requires some inherent knowledge of what you're joking!

so you know the habbits of every american family in Superbowl day!!!...

dude... resume williams sisters talking as it is clear to be your home soil (turf, hood... whatever)
 

jwjh

Legend
Here are your beloved links:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/06/us-superbowl-tv-idUSTRE8151Q020120206

Which says that the Superbowl average audience was 111.3 million viewers.

http://articles.economictimes.india...442_1_peak-rating-highest-rating-star-cricket

About the 135 million figure in India alone in Cricket World Cup final.


http://www1.uefa.com/MultimediaFile...ns/MediaServices/73/54/33/735433_DOWNLOAD.pdf

About the Euro 2008 viewing figures of 155 million viewers per each live match.

There are differing accounts, just as there are for the World Cup and Euro soccer league matches.

But the consensus is that the Super Bowl is the most watched 'single' sporting event. While the World Cup or the Olympics have more viewers over a longer period...

DRII, stop embarrassing yourself and perpetuating the ignorant and insular American stereotype. And please state the source of your 'consensus' if you want your point to hold any water.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
so you know the habbits of every american family in Superbowl day!!!...

dude... resume williams sisters talking as it is clear to be your home soil (turf, hood... whatever)

Great,

true to form, you revert back to racism and generalizing.

Again, if the shoe fits...
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
DRII, stop embarrassing yourself and perpetuating the ignorant and insular American stereotype. And please state the source of your 'consensus' if you want your point to hold any water.

Again, there are differring figures (which I'm sure you're aware of if you researched it)!

Try again at using that invention created by ignorant and insular Americans; the internet, and find out for yourself and not cherry pick information!
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
Again, there are differring figures (which I'm sure you're aware of if you researched it)!

Try again at using that invention created by ignorant and insular Americans; the internet, and find out for yourself and not cherry pick information!

from all the absurd and stupid things you wrote so far in this thread, that is the dumbest by far!

do you know who Tim Barners-Lee is?:oops:
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
from all the absurd and stupid things you wrote so far in this thread, that is the dumbest by far!

do you know who Tim Barners-Lee is?:oops:

Beeoch please!

I sincerely hope you know the difference between the world wide web and the actual internet!

All the main infrastructure and underpinnings for the internet were created in the U.S. The first fully functioning network was established here. The interent has its basis here, and you know it!
 

jmverdugo

Hall of Fame
This is good, now they only need to put more money on the Future and Challenger prizes...
 
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Mustard

Bionic Poster
Again, there are differring figures (which I'm sure you're aware of if you researched it)!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are talking about. The Champions League final has far more worldwide viewers than the Super Bowl. At the 2008 Super Bowl (New York Giants vs. New England Patriots), there were 114 million viewers worldwide, but 104 million of those were in either the USA, Canada or Mexico. The 2008 Champions League final (Manchester United vs. Chelsea) had over 300 million viewers worldwide, a lot of which were in Asia watching a European-club only tournament final.
 
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We see here folks what happens when your thinking is guided by inane logic and putting feelings over facts. These people were just raised differently and don't know how to be rational nor can they try to learn because of pride.
 

li0scc0

Hall of Fame
Great,

true to form, you revert back to racism and generalizing.

Again, if the shoe fits...

You are starting to remind me of Chopin here and some of the other folks who cannot write a post without an ad hominem. 'Racism'. 'insecure'.
These are meant to silence dissent. It isn't working.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
You are starting to remind me of Chopin here and some of the other folks who cannot write a post without an ad hominem. 'Racism'. 'insecure'.
These are meant to silence dissent. It isn't working.

'silence dissent'...

Please; you are taking yourself, and myself a little too seriously!

Nothing posted on these forums is worthy of the phrase silencing dissent!

We are all just opining, and thats it...

You're not participating in civil disobedience march, in case you misunderstood.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Try again at using that invention created by ignorant and insular Americans; the internet, and find out for yourself and not cherry pick information!

It is true that Al Gore invented the Internet, but HTML, the language which made the Internet accessible to everyone, was developed by a physicist working at CERN in order to present the data collected in experiments.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Haha Sureshs (I did vote for Gore in 2000),

I said where and by whom the internet was created. I did not mention www or html or any of the resulting innovations from the foundation laid down in the U.S.

Whats ultimately worth more, if one had to choose; ink and paper or words and stories?
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Haha Sureshs (I did vote for Gore in 2000),

I said where and by whom the internet was created. I did not mention www or html or any of the resulting innovations from the foundation laid down in the U.S.

Whats ultimately worth more, if one had to choose; ink and paper or words and stories?

HTML was not an innovation based on the foundation of the Internet. It was an independent effort which just happened to match the requirements of the Internet at the time.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
HTML was not an innovation based on the foundation of the Internet. It was an independent effort which just happened to match the requirements of the Internet at the time.

I completely disagree...


So I guess the P.C. was an independent effort that 'just happened' to match the requirements of microprocessors...

Or the steering wheel to car; or cable programming to the television set...


Kinda naive.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I completely disagree...


So I guess the P.C. was an independent effort that 'just happened' to match the requirements of microprocessors...

Or the steering wheel to car; or cable programming to the television set...


Kinda naive.

No, you are just extrapolating. Some things are cause and effect, some things are coincidental. If you are saying there is a common cause, yes. It was networking.

The CERN work was to find a way to store data on a server, yet uniformly present and deliver it over the network to someone with a computer. Before that, people had to copy files over manually.

The Internet was a DARPA project to create a network with many different paths between nodes which could operate in the event of a nuclear attack so that key command posts across the country could communicate over some available path.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
No, you are just extrapolating. Some things are cause and effect, some things are coincidental. If you are saying there is a common cause, yes. It was networking.

The CERN work was to find a way to store data on a server, yet uniformly present and deliver it over the network to someone with a computer. Before that, people had to copy files over manually.

The Internet was a DARPA project to create a network with many different paths between nodes which could operate in the event of a nuclear attack so that key command posts across the country could communicate over some available path.

Yes, and that Darpa project was the first operable wide spread network, hence the begginning of modern networking.

HTML was a proposal for an 'internet' based hypertext method. If there were no internet, there would be no need for such an innovation...
 

TopFH

Hall of Fame
There are differing accounts, just as there are for the World Cup and Euro soccer league matches.

But the consensus is that the Super Bowl is the most watched 'single' sporting event. While the World Cup or the Olympics have more viewers over a longer period...

Did you even read my post on the previous page? El Clásico had nearly 4 times as much viewers than the Super Bowl.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
Yes, and that Darpa project was the first operable wide spread network, hence the begginning of modern networking.

HTML was a proposal for an 'internet' based hypertext method. If there were no internet, there would be no need for such an innovation...

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ps: and also thanks for calling me b____H in a very Bloods vs Crips manner. that is very sensible of you!!!

or should i say ..

yo homie... twaz sensibl ayiiight? mad props to yah... aiight???
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Yes, and that Darpa project was the first operable wide spread network, hence the begginning of modern networking.

HTML was a proposal for an 'internet' based hypertext method. If there were no internet, there would be no need for such an innovation...

He first created a document cross-linking system, which used something similar to today's hyperlinks. He wanted a way to create a cross-referenced database for physicists. Then he left CERN. After a few years, he came back and realized that the Internet had started spreading. He revived his earlier work and extended that to the web.

HTML did not start for networking purposes, but for document retrieval through cross-referencing. Once the Internet made it possible to store documents on servers and access them globally, it became the markup language for HTTP, the protocol which runs over the Internet over TCP.

HTML was a markup language for documents - a way to add meta-data to a document. Before that, it was done in a proprietary way by Word, WordPerfect etc. HTML provided a simple text way of describing rich document content.

HTTP is the transfer protocol, which opens sockets when a link is clicked and transfers the page over the Internet.

HTML has been extended to XML, which is used to describe configuration databases of all kinds, whether they are local or remote. There are programs which don't operate over the network, but still use XML as a neutral format for control and configuration settings.
 

FlashFlare11

Hall of Fame
I bet your typing from your Iphone or Ipad

I'm sorry, but what? I was reading your ridiculous argument (and I am neither a fan of football or American football) but to argue that American football is even nearly as popular as federeration football is laughable (and I'm American). I can't stand football for the simple reason that players play for a minisule amount of time while taking the maximum of amount of time allotted to set-up for their next play.

But, anyway, to the quoted statement, this is precisely the reason I can't stand Apple's products. Their fans think nothing existed before the iPhone or iPad and that nothing is better. I'm vehemently rooting for Research in Motion's BlackBerry (a Canadian company) to comeback and knock Apple off its vastly inflated position of an "innovator" (all their releases these days are the same, incrementally improved hardware with simply a bit more polished app catalog than Google's).

I'm so tired of superior devices being knocked for not being an "i" in front of their name (Apple made it okay for devices not to support Flash even though most other tablets market support it, and even though they cheer "HTML5", Safari doesn't even come close to the kind of support Chrome or BlackBerry Tablet browsers offer for HTML5).
 
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dh003i

Legend
Are there honestly still some people who don't realize that football (or soccer if you wish) is the most popular sport in the world? Talk about being ignorant.

Honestly I'm as far as being a football fan as humanly possible(I'd rather watch a paint dry than a football match) but that's just common knowledge.

It may be the most popular sport world-wide, but that doesn't mean it generates the most revenue or is the most profitable.

Look at this list of the world's top sports events:
http://www.forbes.com/global/2010/0...perbowl-daytona-worlds-top-sports-events.html

Most profitable sports leagues
http://www.askmen.com/sports/business_200/218b_sports_business.html

NFL generates $984 million, English Premier League $513 million.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
I'm sorry, but what? I was reading your ridiculous argument (and I am neither a fan of football or American football) but to argue that American football is even nearly as popular as federeration football is laughable (and I'm American). I can't stand football for the simple reason that players play for a minisule amount of time while taking the maximum of amount of time allotted to set-up for their next play.

But, anyway, to the quoted statement, this is precisely the reason I can't stand Apple's products. Their fans think nothing existed before the iPhone or iPad and that nothing is better. I'm vehemently rooting for Research in Motion's BlackBerry (a Canadian company) to comeback and knock Apple off its vastly inflated position of an "innovator" (all their releases these days are the same, incrementally improved hardware with simply a bit more polished app catalog than Google's).

I'm so tired of superior devices being knocked for not being an "i" in front of their name (Apple made it okay for devices not to support Flash even though most other tablets market support it, and even though they cheer "HTML5", Safari doesn't even come close to the kind of support Chrome or BlackBerry Tablet browsers offer for HTML5).

First off, I never said Football was more 'popular' than futbol. I focused mainly on revenue, but also audience, and attendance year over year; so get your facts straight!

And the only reason I brought it up, was to counter the sneers and derogatory dismissals of insecure Europeans who love to mention soccer as some fantastical reminder of European influence and underhandedly digg at Americans. Neither sport is my favorite, but I would pick Football over boring soccer any day and twice on Sunday!

Also, I am not the biggest Apple fan anymore (I have a Android smart phone and a Windows laptop, but also a Mac desktop). I used to like Apple because of its slightly counter-culture / progressive philosophy. But now, Apple has proven itself to be like any other corporation -- if theres an opportunity to establish a near monopoly (and the largely negative attributes that accompany such -- like vastly inflated prices and outsourcing) they will surely take it; which is fine just nothing new.

I merely mentioned Apple as an example of American ingenuity that dominates the market place, which other nationalities take for granted and yet continue to ridicule the U.S. and our customs.
 

li0scc0

Hall of Fame
First off, I never said Football was more 'popular' than futbol.

You remind me of President Obama (fyi, didn't vote for McCain or Obama so not being political here). When Obama says "as I have always said" that means "I have never said this once until now and hope you won't notice that I never said it".
You just said "I never said" by which you mean "I have been saying this constantly, but now that I have been proven wrong I hope you will think I never have said this before".
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Europeans don't have anything against American football, they just think it's a crappy sport, a inferior version of Rugby as Mustard said.
Well Mustard is bullsh!tting (and so are you).

Europe has no American Football tradition but guess what, is has NO rugby tradition either!

Southern France and the British Isles are the only exceptions.

The fact that there are isolated rugby enthusiasts elsewhere is irrelevant since there are also plenty American football enthusiasts outside the US (in places like Germany and Holland
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DRII

G.O.A.T.
You remind me of President Obama (fyi, didn't vote for McCain or Obama so not being political here). When Obama says "as I have always said" that means "I have never said this once until now and hope you won't notice that I never said it".
You just said "I never said" by which you mean "I have been saying this constantly, but now that I have been proven wrong I hope you will think I never have said this before".

I assume you must be rather young.

You seem quite naive but have potential...
 

li0scc0

Hall of Fame
I assume you must be rather young.

You seem quite naive but have potential...

Excellent ad hominem, once again.
Now that you have lost the argument, you are attempting to change the subject by discrediting those who have proven you wrong.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Excellent ad hominem, once again.
Now that you have lost the argument, you are attempting to change the subject by discrediting those who have proven you wrong.

I haven't lost anything. I was proven right, but if that has to be explained to you then the entire discussion is over your head anyways...

And BTW, you're way too sensitive!
 
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Lsmkenpo

Hall of Fame
So Nadal agreed with the other top players they should get less money and distribute it to the lower ranked players, yeah right :), what a bunch of BS.

Pretty much goes against what Nadal has advocated for the past couple of years, before he resigned from the players council, like a spoiled brat that didn't get his way.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
Well Mustard is bullsh!tting (and so are you).

Europe has no American Football tradition but guess what, is has NO rugby tradition either!

Southern France and the British Isles are the only exceptions.
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Ummm. Italy has a long, long association with Rugby. They're quite good at it too.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The tournaments were increasing money, and the fab four said the majority of the increase should go the prize money for the lower rounds.

So they're all getting paid more, but its just that the tendency for the prize money to be increased mainly at the finals level is being slightly reversed.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
The tournaments were increasing money, and the fab four said the majority of the increase should go the prize money for the lower rounds.

So they're all getting paid more, but its just that the tendency for the prize money to be increased mainly at the finals level is being slightly reversed.

Yes.

This is a good thing for the health of our game.
 
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