Help stringing first frame---HEAD LM Radical MP

[Milano]

Hi, I just received my gamma x-2 stringer, watched xtremerunners video (thanks a lot for this). Except I still do not understand the pattern which you are supposed to string it with.

8,10T - 9B 8B 8T 6T - 6B

So this (taken from klipperusa) means to skip the 8th string (counting from the middle) on the top of the racquet, the 9th string on the bottom, and the 10th string on the top. This is all while doing the mains. And then tie off the mains on the 8th string on the bottom.

I will be doing a 2 piece job, so this means I will have 4 knots right? Except the patterns on Klipper are for 1 piece jobs...The current job on the racquet is a two piece so I am trying to learn from looking at it, but it doesnt really make too much sense.

Any help?

Thanks!

 

[Court_Jester]

8,10T - 9B 8B 8T 6T - 6B

So this (taken from klipperusa) means to skip the 8th string (counting from the middle) on the top of the racquet, the 9th string on the bottom, and the 10th string on the top. This is all while doing the mains. And then tie off the mains on the 8th string on the bottom.

So far, so good....

I will be doing a 2 piece job, so this means I will have 4 knots right?

Yes.

Except the patterns on Klipper are for 1 piece jobs...

Uh, no.

The most of the patterns listed on the Klipper USA site are for 2-pc stringing. Head racquets almost always require that kind of stringing. You can tell if it's a 1-pc stringing if there is a letter "S" on the length of the strings.

 

[Milano]

Ok, thanks a lot. Read it over again and it is for 2 piece (says the same thing under the TW listing too).

One question, I mounted the frame, though how hard should I clamp it. I tightened it until the frame was not moving at all. And the bar that goes to mount the frame seems like it may come in the way of the grommets while stringing (only slightly), is this okay?

Thanks again.

 

[Court_Jester]

I have never strung a racquet with an X-2 so I can't really picture that bar that you're talking about in my head.

As for tightening the mounting screw, I think you're doing it right. Just don't over-tighten them. I've seen cracked frames because of it.

 

[Blade0324]

Milano
When you say the bar that goes to mount the frame are you talking about the piece that slides over the screws for the mounts and fits against the frame? If so you mean that this piece sticks out past the frame into the center of the racquet? Or do you mean that the threaded metal post that are used to mount are slightly in the way? I have this stringer so I should be able to answer your questions.

 

[abenguyen]

on the clamps, i usually test it out before i string. when you clamp it shouldn't been too easy to clamp as in a small amount of force. it shouldn't be too hard either where you have to push pretty hard. just make sure that you can get in there and clamp and move on. usually if its too loose the string will slip when tensioning. or if its too tight, the clamp will come off the string when tensioning and it sucks alot since i've done it a few times.

when starting make sure you start lacing from the top, or the head.

 

[Milano]

Okay, so I started stringing, so far so good. I am on the 7th main (on each side) and am ready to skip the 8th main grommet hole on the top...

So, do I go through the 8th grommet near the throat, to the 9th main grommet on the head?

Because if I do this, then I have to go back down on the 10th main grommet at the head, which it says to skip...

ATM, the 7th main is complete, near the throat. What do I do?

 

[mig29]

What's the problem if you string it one piece?

I've had a LM radical since two years and I've always strung it one piece. What is the inconvenient of doing so?

 

[goosala]

That frame uses a little more string than usual. Make sure you do not waste any string for slack because you will end up short and will not have enough for pulling tension.

 

[Milano]

I've had a LM radical since two years and I've always strung it one piece. What is the inconvenient of doing so?

Well, I thought a two piece would be easier and I will be doing hybrids in the future so wanted to get used to the 2 piece job...

But I really need help right now...

Do I go through the 8b to 9T to 11t down to 10b and then tie off at 8b?

 

[Milano]

That frame uses a little more string than usual. Make sure you do not waste and string for slack because you will end up short and will not have enough for pulling tension.

Yea, it is a 40 foot set, so I made sure I had 21 for mains, and then 19 for crosses...

 

[goosala]

I strung a couple of those for a friend and barely had enough string to go around my ratchet wheel. I was lucky to wrap the end around the other way on the wheel. I cut the set in equal halves and barely had enough to tie the mains. I used as little as possible to start the cross knot at the top and when I finished the crosses at the bottom I barely had enough to go around the ratchet wheel. I was a scary sight.

 

[Milano]

So can anyone help me with the stringing pattern in my above post? Is that the proper way to string it?

 

[Court_Jester]

Do I go through the 8b to 9T to 11t down to 10b and then tie off at 8b?

Yep and you're almost done with the mains.

 

[Milano]

Yep and you're almost done with the mains.

Thanks, unfortunately on of the middle mains snapped while tieing the mains, so I will start again in about a half an hour and do a hybrid of another syn. gut and the cross string I already cut...

 

[Court_Jester]

I've had a LM radical since two years and I've always strung it one piece. What is the inconvenient of doing so?

Except for a couple of LM models, late model Head racquets are recommended to be strung 2-pc. Presumably, the reason for this design shift is to relieve the hoop of the unnecessary stress brought about by down-top stringing (since the hoop is much stronger near the throat than at the top). By doing 2-pc, top-down stringing is always guaranteed and hence easier on the frame.

 

[Milano]

Except for a couple of LM models, late model Head racquets are recommended to be strung 2-pc. Presumably, the reason for this design shift is to relieve the hoop of the unnecessary stress brought about by down-top stringing (since the hoop is much stronger near the throat than at the top). By doing 2-pc, top-down stringing is always guaranteed and hence easier on the frame.

Thanks for all the info Court Jester. Luckily this LM Rad is an older one from Austria.

I finished the mains and completed tieing both knots. Onto the Crosses!

 

[Milano]

Lol, I have another question now...

If I was to start the cross at 8T (like is says), that means I would tie the starting knot in the grommet right?

If I was to do that, then I would go and actually start the cross weaving at 10T?

Because then if I was to weave across to the other 10T, I would have an empty 8T grommet on the otherside.

Any clarification on which grommets to start and to begin the weave?


Also it says to end at 6T, but I do not understand how to get there...

thanks a lot.



EDIT::: Nevermind, found my mistake. Hit the 3 hour mark, lol...with the restart of course.

 

[Court_Jester]

If I was to start the cross at 8T (like is says), that means I would tie the starting knot in the grommet right?

No. It means that you insert the cross string through the 8T. The starting knot is tied at 6T (one of the cross tie-offs).

If I was to do that, then I would go and actually start the cross weaving at 10T?

See above.

Also it says to end at 6T, but I do not understand how to get there...

The last tie off is at 6B.

 

[Milano]

yep, finished it!!! Thanks a lot. Feels a lot different from normal, maybe I missed a thing or two...but I will be restringing my other racquet soo and hopefully it will be under 4 hours!!

Thanks again Court Jester.

 

[Blade0324]

Milano
I have attached a link to a site that should help you out. You just need to click on the head String pattern PDF link and it is very helpful to get started.

http://www.stringforum.net/patterns.php
Take a look and see if that answers some of your questions as you are starting out.