Implications of possible 24-23 after RG

[Hood_Man]

#25 is historically important in order to break Margaret Court's record.

After 25 is meaningless. It will be far more difficult for Djoker to muster up motivation if and when he ever reaches 25.

I know I give Novak a lot of stick (and give his fans what I hope comes across as nothing more than a bit of light hearted trolling), but I would genuinely like to see him achieve #25.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

Sooooo..... what if Rafa wins RG? I know he is a long way of

I still say 2024 Rafa, even with mild hip strain, beats Sinner.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Draws/schedule can work unbelievable wonders, the slam race is NOT concluded until it truly is OVER.

Weeks@1, YE#1, big titles, YEC, are all definitively Over.

ND CYGS definitively over...

 

[MichaelNadal]

If Nadal wins he is in with a chance again but that's a IF.

Chatrier

 

[MichaelNadal]

I know 2015 sucked being a Nadal fan, but his 2015 RG kit is fire.

Yes the blue blend kit

 

[chjtennis]

It would be sad when Nadal announces his retirement, but I think it will happen soon. It seems he is following exactly the same route as Federer before the Swiss retired. Rafa is trying hard to get back to normal physical condition, but his body just keeps breaking down. I don't know if it will be possible for him to win 7 matches in a row at RG anymore. I'm just wondering if it will be good for him to retire on top, or try until the last moment. It's his decision, but I think he is not winning any more slams now. Basically, it seems his body has had it.

 

[Djokovic2011]

It's so cute that some Nadal fans are still clinging to the fantasy that he'll finish ahead in the slam race.

 

[MichaelNadal]

It's so cute that some Nadal fans are still clinging to the fantasy that he'll finish ahead in the slam race.

Its so cute that Novak fans are the only fanbase that needs numbers to be content with their players career

 

[Halba]

Sooooo..... what if Rafa wins RG? I know he is a long way of but the few matches he played in Brisbane were very positive. If he maintains his fitness for RG, he should be the favorite.

What would this mean for the slam race going forward? I always thought Rafa has a chance at WIM since his rebirth in 2017 (very unlucky in 2018 and 2022). Rafa v. Novak at WIM anyone?

No. He couldnt play more than 2 BO3 matches without getting re-injured.

3 pages of delusional speculative nonsense and counter nonsense.

 

[Bartelby]

Nadal is a permanent "failure to launch", but his Ambassadorial check has arrived in the post from the Saudis.

 

[Sport]

It would be sad when Nadal announces his retirement, but I think it will happen soon. It seems he is following exactly the same route as Federer before the Swiss retired. Rafa is trying hard to get back to normal physical condition, but his body just keeps breaking down. I don't know if it will be possible for him to win 7 matches in a row at RG anymore. I'm just wondering if it will be good for him to retire on top, or try until the last moment. It's his decision, but I think he is not winning any more slams now. Basically, it seems his body has had it.

You've been predicting Nadal is done winning Slams since mid-2019. At some point, you'll get it right.

 

[AntonZweck]

Both retire in 2024 but Rafa claims slam number 23 while Novak stay put at 24.

 

[octobrina10]

You have spoken to his team? Do tell please . Also, my question is purely hypothetical and relies on a big IF, namely that Rafa wins RG. So basically, how do you view the slam race IF Rafa wins RG.

The Rafa team doesn't talk to random people about him.

 

[octobrina10]

Nadal is a permanent "failure to launch", but his Ambassadorial check has arrived in the post from the Saudis.

It looks that you are closely monitoring him, as usual.

 

[Bartelby]

That's your role in life: Monitoring and censoring all anti-Nadal activity!

It looks that you are closely monitoring him, as usual.

 

[chjtennis]

You've been predicting Nadal is done winning Slams since mid-2019. At some point, you'll get it right.

Thanks for your fandom and closely following me.

I don't think I've conclusively said he's done winning. This time, ,though, it seems Nadal's body has given up.

 

[octobrina10]

That's your role in life: Monitoring and censoring all anti-Nadal activity!

So, your comment I quoted in my previous post was just your imagination.

 

[Bartelby]

You're sharp as a tack!

So, your comment I quoted in my previous post was just your imagination.

 

[StefanV]

The Slam race is over.

 

[Hitman]

The Rafa team doesn't talk to random people about him.

Oh, so you were there when I was hanging out in the gym with them and the others for about three hours near the stretching area.

 

[Enceladus]

So competition is only when he loses a match? I guess Federer didn't have any competition outside of Rafa then for most of his peak years.

This is the school of thought of a large part of TW members in a nutshell. Thanks to this scenario, Novak cannot win in their minds, if he loses, he loses, if he wins, they will say that the competition is weak.

 

[Hitman]

This is the school of thought of a large part of TW members in a nutshell. Thanks to this scenario, Novak cannot win in their minds, if he loses, he loses, if he wins, they will say that the competition is weak.

I know, he is put down this way, if he wins or loses. Silly.

 

[pirhaksar]

This is the school of thought of a large part of TW members in a nutshell. Thanks to this scenario, Novak cannot win in their minds, if he loses, he loses, if he wins, they will say that the competition is weak.

Exactly, that’s why you can’t take most them seriously. The worst part is using words like “truth is”, “everyone says”, “everyone knows”, …these bums claim to speak for everyone…it’s almost Trumpesque in narcissism and bravado. Much easier to simply say you can’t accept Djokovic winning and move on, that’s more respectable.

 

[pirhaksar]

Oh, so you were there when I was hanging out in the gym with them and the others for about three hours near the stretching area.

This poster seems to be part of Rafas inner circle or PR team?
That said, I don’t necessarily believe Rafa will go away letting Djokovic walk away with the slam lead, he will be back and try to wrest it again, I don’t buy what he or his team says tbh.

 

[Hitman]

This poster seems to be part of Rafas inner circle or PR team?
That said, I don’t necessarily believe Rafa will go away letting Djokovic walk away with the slam lead, he will be back and try to wrest it again, I don’t buy what he or his team says tbh.

I couldn't care less, just don't make BS statements when you weren't even there about who I spoke with.

As for Rafa, sure, he is competitive, lets see what happens. I only speak about what I heard when I was at his academy.

 

[Enceladus]

If Rafa wins RG, it means he's one behind the co-Goats, Margaret and Novak. But it won't happen in my opinion...I think Rafa is done...

Court is not the GOAT of women's tennis, she won most of the Grand Slams before the Open era and on the AO, which had weak game fields in her time.

 

[Enceladus]

I think Nadal is unlikely to be able to play and win 7 Bo5 matches in a row due to his current physical condition, but I don't rule it out. Nole on AO didn't take the opportunity to build the barrier of 3 grandslams, so we would not have a debate on the topic of this thread.

 

[messiahrobins]

The Rafa team doesn't talk to random people about him.

Well i suppose they could be trolling someone and sort of being sarcastic saying once djokovic won uso 23 rafa thinks its all over.
Mist admit i dont tend to discuss with strangers the mindset of work colleagues with clients.

 

[messiahrobins]

Court is not the GOAT of women's tennis, she won most of the Grand Slams before the Open era and on the AO, which had weak game fields in her time.

AO up to about 5 years ago has had weaker fields. Its the slam that has the most absent players, always has been

 

[Hitman]

Well i suppose they could be trolling someone and sort of being sarcastic saying once djokovic won uso 23 rafa thinks its all over.
Mist admit i dont tend to discuss with strangers the mindset of work colleagues with clients.

LOL

 

[Enceladus]

AO up to about 5 years ago has had weaker fields. Its the slam that has the most absent players, always has been

What you wrote is delusional. You are comparing apples and pears. Nowadays, just like 5 or 10 years ago, all TOP players take part in the AO, which was not the case for the AO 50 or 60 years ago, when Court won, the game fields at that time had only a handful of foreign tennis players.

 

[GoatNo1]

I don't know what the chances are and what the change would be if instead of 9% nole's advantage is 4%. it's all there somewhere anyway. if Nole defended the title, the advantage would be only about 14%.

on the other hand, by the end of RG, it is to be expected that Nole's advantage in weeks will be some 100+ %. and that is a very very serious advantage!

 

[RoS]

Nadal is done and dusted.

People who expect him at 38 y.o to win 7 matches on Bo5 on the most exigeant surface with his wrecked stamina are living in a fantasy land.

 

[Searchlight]

Court is not the GOAT of women's tennis, she won most of the Grand Slams before the Open era and on the AO, which had weak game fields in her time.

So you don't recognize Rod Laver's 62 slam, Helen Wills Moody's 8 Wimbledons or that Bill Tilden existed...

 

[octobrina10]

This poster seems to be part of Rafas inner circle or PR team?
...

Well i suppose they could be trolling someone and sort of being sarcastic saying once djokovic won uso 23 rafa thinks its all over.
Mist admit i dont tend to discuss with strangers the mindset of work colleagues with clients.

The Rafa team doesn't "spend time" in the gym, when Rafa doesn't train there. If someone was trolling the visitor in the gym, it was just another visitor.

 

[Enceladus]

So you don't recognize Rod Laver's 62 slam, Helen Wills Moody's 8 Wimbledons or that Bill Tilden existed...

Results from before 1968 have a lower value. This is not to say that we should forget the history of tennis before 1968, but it is also impossible to equate these results with titles from the Open era.

 

[messiahrobins]

The Rafa team doesn't "spend time" in the gym, when Rafa doesn't train there. If someone was trolling the visitor in the gym, it was just another visitor.

So have we had a fake news thead?

 

[DSH]

It would be sad when Nadal announces his retirement, but I think it will happen soon. It seems he is following exactly the same route as Federer before the Swiss retired. Rafa is trying hard to get back to normal physical condition, but his body just keeps breaking down. I don't know if it will be possible for him to win 7 matches in a row at RG anymore. I'm just wondering if it will be good for him to retire on top, or try until the last moment. It's his decision, but I think he is not winning any more slams now. Basically, it seems his body has had it.

Olympic gold in Paris 2024 is a more realistic chance for Rafael Nadal to achieve this season, perhaps his last.

 

[Hitman]

The Rafa team doesn't "spend time" in the gym, when Rafa doesn't train there. If someone was trolling the visitor in the gym, it was just another visitor.

Of course, that is why they were talking to many junior players who practise at the academy, who were inside at the time, since it was raining, and even took a couple of pics with them...because that is what random visitors do with each other there. Rafa was not practising that day, members of his team were in the gym watching AO. Doesn't surprise me that my visit there didn't sit well with some, too bad, so believe what you will.

 

[Razer]

The Slams race is over.

Nadal and Federer ended up as losers, now they can sit in a corner in their mansions and cry/sob all day contemplating on what could have been or should have been but none of that can be changed.

Now the main event is Djokovic handing over the reigns of tennis to the 2000s born fellows.....Nadal's story is almost over, Federer's is completely over..

 

[messiahrobins]

The Slams race is over.

Nadal and Federer ended up as losers, now they can sit in a corner in their mansions and cry/sob all day contemplating on what could have been or should have been but none of that can be changed.

Now the main event is Djokovic handing over the reigns of tennis to the 2000s born fellows.....Nadal's story is almost over, Federer's is completely over..

Did nadal retire overnight?

 

[messiahrobins]

Of course, that is why they were talking to many junior players who practise at the academy, who were inside at the time, since it was raining, and even took a couple of pics with them...because that is what random visitors do with each other there. Rafa was not practising that day, members of his team were in the gym watching AO. Doesn't surprise me that my visit there didn't sit well with some, too bad, so believe what you will.

Why would youur visit not sit well with anyone? Id think most tennis fans have been as its not an expensive visit if holidaying in mallorca as most europeans often do.

 

[Searchlight]

Results from before 1968 have a lower value. This is not to say that we should forget the history of tennis before 1968, but it is also impossible to equate these results with titles from the Open era.

Just because they didn't have the racquet technology or big money that allowed for extensive travel, trainers, and specialists doesn't make the achievements of Susan Lenglen, Fred Perry, or Little Mo of lesser value...

 

[DjokoLand]

If Nadal turns up and wins RG at 38 having been injured nearly a year, walking on one leg and no knees I am then convinced he will always win and can just retire until RG every year

 

[DSH]

If Nadal turns up and wins RG at 38 having been injured nearly a year, walking on one leg and no knees I am then convinced he will always win and can just retire until RG every year

No one has won a GS tournament in history (128 participants) aged 38 or older.
Will Nadal and Djokovic break that immovable barrier?

 

[NeutralFan]

It didn't take for the carrot to dangle, did it?

I've been to his academy and spoken with his team, he is not thinking about slam race anymore. He felt it was gone the moment he saw Djokovic win USO 2023. Three slams from now on is extreme.

Best to hope he stays healthy and doesn't get injured again and can go three matches without having to skip the next event.

No sane person atm will think of slam race lol, he would be lucky to play one tournament without getting injured.

 

[NeutralFan]

Nadal has EXACTLY ZERO Chance of winning RG. Yes, I know he is the clay GOAT and he is Nadal. But Father time has caught up and he can't keep his body in shape. Even in BO3.
2022 was the last hurrah for Rafa in RG, when he won with injections and numbing his foot. That will be his last slam and he knew that. Still,what a legendary career it's been.

I expect RG 2024 to be contested between Sinner, Djokovic and perhaps Zverev. Carlitos has a lot to learn and IMO won't reach the final weekend.

As usual a very realistic take from you.

 

[DSH]

No sane person atm will think of slam race lol, he would be lucky to play one tournament without getting injured.

If it is Nadal's last season, will he be able to play his last tournaments freely or will he still have a lot of pressure to finish his legendary career in a dignified manner?

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Typical TTW reaction on one loss of a player. Nadal will never win the slam race, it is over. Even if by some miracle he wins RG this year, he has very very little chances at any of the other slams so he would need to wait until next year RG where he will be 39. That being said, Djokovic just reached the semi of a slam, so it is not that he is completely done. Actually he still looks way more likely to win additional slams than Nadal. I still believe Djokovic will end up with 26 slams, Nadal I cannot see winning any more slam, at most maybe one more RG.

 

[Subway Tennis]

You can never count out the King.

Winning Roland Garros and the Olympic Singles Gold would be one of the most insane age-related feats ever, but pulling the impossible is what Rafa has based his whole career on.

When Rafa made his return in Brisbane he looked far better than anything I had projected, particularly on serve.

Rafa is planning something for sure. His body will be the only thing that can stop him.