(K) Factor's a rip off?

tennisadd1ct

tennisadd1ct

Rookie
You know the new Wilson k factors? Are they just painted versions of the n codes? I mean seriously, did they really use "new technology?" or are they just ripping us off? Like the nCode NPS 95 racket, now they call it the k six one team
they have the same weight and stuff but are they really different? Same with the n95 and k95's






ARE THEY RIPPING US OFF OR WHAT?
 
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raiden031

Legend
If they were the same racquet, then why would you feel the need to spend the money to upgrade to it? So in other words, if you buy a racquet just because a certain pro promotes it, then you are a fool. You should buy a racquet because it has some quality that you like about it when it comes to playing your own game. With that being said, I doubt its the same racquet.
 
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raiden031

Legend
tennisadd1ct said:
it looks the same tho but with different paint
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If it was the same racquet, why would someone buy it without noticing any different in playability of the racquet? Isn't the reason that you buy a new racquet because it has some quality that your old racquet didn't quite have?

Anyone who buys a racquet based on marketing alone is a fool. They deserve to get ripped off.
 
BreakPoint

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
NO, the K-Factors are DEFINITELY NOT repainted nCodes. They are VERY DIFFERENT racquets. Just play with them both and you will feel the difference. However, that of course doesn't mean that one is better than the other but just that they are different. Which one you might prefer is just personal preference.
 
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alan-n

Professional
Simple things such as changing the paint coating can change the way a racquet feels. Strip an NCode racquet of its rubberized paint and there is more feel to it. Make a racquet more flexible in certain areas or stiffer in certain areas and the racquet will respond differently. Change to location of the weights in the racquet and it will respond differently.

Minor changes do make a big difference for people who have played with that racquet for a long time, demo before writing the racquet off.
 
tennisadd1ct

tennisadd1ct

Rookie
K factor's look like sweet racket's I agree, but I first need to know exactly if they ARE a rip off, ok, thanks!


TennisAdd1ct
 
fgs

fgs

Hall of Fame
they play and feel different than the ncodes. as "breakpoint" already mentioned this does by no means say that they are better than the ncodes, they are simply different. if they suit your game or not is a different question. so, in my opinion, they are no rip-off.
 
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The_1337

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how come you seem to be an "expert" about ncode and kfactor, recommending it to everyone, but now you dont know anything about them?
 
BreakPoint

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
tennisadd1ct said:
K factor's look like sweet racket's I agree, but I first need to know exactly if they ARE a rip off, ok, thanks!
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It depends on what you mean by a "rip off"? If a racquet does not make you instantly play like Federer, is that a "rip off" to you? If so, then, yes, the K90 is a "rip off".
 
Mad iX

Mad iX

Semi-Pro
Even if they were the same, so what?
Retail prices are the same here (Australia).
If you don't want to be "ripped off" then get the N90 as they're being discounted now.
 
fgs

fgs

Hall of Fame
tennisadd1ct,
i did not mean to criticize you nor being harsh, so if you got it that way than i'm truly sorry. in your op you were asking if the kfactors are just repainted ncodes. i have only hit with the k90, the k95 18x20 and the k95 team, and as i have already posted, they simply feel different than the ncodes. i haven't hit with the other k-factors since they are o f no interest to me.
coming back to the "rip-off" question, i don't feel that they are rip-offs, simply because they play different than the ncodes. some might like the "new" feeling more than the "old" ncoded one, others might not like it - it's everybody's freedom to make a choice. i don't know much about technology since i really don't care about it, the only thing i care about is the feel the racquet gives me when striking the ball. if i get that feeling then i eventually buy the racquet, if not, with all the technology in the world i just stay away from it.
 
tennisadd1ct

tennisadd1ct

Rookie
Thanks fgs,

Well Wilson probaly exaggerated a little on all the k factor technology but they are definetley not the same

tennisadd1ct
 
fgs

fgs

Hall of Fame
tennisadd1ct,
well, i guess that's marketing. head made big fuss about flexpoint and the new line sports no holes other than between the strings.
there simply is no technology whatsoever that will take your game one step further. of course i play better with todays racquets than i did 25 years ago with the wooden ones, but the technology that helps me improve my game is available for everybody, so personally technology does not make me stand above "the crowd".
 
tennisadd1ct

tennisadd1ct

Rookie
yeah, like o3 speedports? they aren't selling so well.. because they are close to o3's. Plus, they don't have any pro using them, so people don't see them.
 
phucng_10

phucng_10

Professional
Doubt it's a rip off. If it was then nobody would have boughten it and they would've sticked with their PS 85/90.
 
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tennis_hand

Hall of Fame
tennisadd1ct said:
You know the new Wilson k factors? Are they just painted versions of the n codes? I mean seriously, did they really use "new technology?" or are they just ripping us off? Like the nCode NPS 95 racket, now they call it the k six one team
they have the same weight and stuff but are they really different? Same with the n95 and k95's






ARE THEY RIPPING US OFF OR WHAT?
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i tried my friend's N61 Team, NPS 95 and K61 Team. To me they feel exactly the same.
 
fgs

fgs

Hall of Fame
tennis hand,
i don't know the nps, but i have played both the n- and k-team, and they are different. the k-team has more feel, a tad more power and quite a lot more control. and i made sure they were strung the same!
 
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tennis_hand

Hall of Fame
fgs said:
tennis hand,
i don't know the nps, but i have played both the n- and k-team, and they are different. the k-team has more feel, a tad more power and quite a lot more control. and i made sure they were strung the same!
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i didn't play with it for long, but to me they are about the same, except the paint job. i quite like the k-team.
 
fgs

fgs

Hall of Fame
tennis hand,
i played them side by side for a two hrs hitting session. the differences are not BIG which in my opinion is natural since they come off the same "family", but they are there. i'm looking for a racquet for my son and therfore i have gone through this, and it is quite likely that he'll soon get the k-team.
 
tennisadd1ct

tennisadd1ct

Rookie
I demoed a K Factor, it had a great feeling, but everyone's opinion is different, and i'm not 14..please stop saying that
 
wmrhawk

wmrhawk

Rookie
don't know difference between k factor, n code etc., but i have switched to k95 from prince cuz they feel much better in terms of stability and crispness.
 
ktownva

ktownva

Semi-Pro
K6.1 is not the same as N6.1, or any other 6.1 really.

The feel is a lot more metallic, less dampened since this is the first one without kevlar. I think the K6.1 plays more like a POG than anything else.
 
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Chauvalito

Hall of Fame
You could say that I was (k)onverted, i am now playing with the k6.1 95 18x20, which i instantly liked after demoing it for a week....

I played with the ncodes multiple times but could never enjoyed them enough to make the switch.
 
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soggyramen

Professional
superstition said:
I'm waiting for the next line because the K cosmetics are too tacky.
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yes i can't wait for wilson's next cash cow of racquets the [M]Factor

[M]ore Lies
[M]ore PJ's


"All this results in 64% [M]ore [M]oney"

nah i'm just kidding so like i said perform as well some are new
 
BreakPoint

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
AndrewD said:
Not a rip-off but they are a waste of money.
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But just because they are not right for you does not mean that they are a waste of money for everyone, does it? Ask Craig Clark if he thinks the K90 is a waste of money.

So it really depends on whom you ask and what one considers "a waste of money". And I guess it also depends on how much money one has to waste. ;)
 
BounceHitBounceHit

BounceHitBounceHit

Legend
BreakPoint said:
NO, the K-Factors are DEFINITELY NOT repainted nCodes. They are VERY DIFFERENT racquets. Just play with them both and you will feel the difference. However, that of course doesn't mean that one is better than the other but just that they are different. Which one you might prefer is just personal preference.
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Correct-a-Mundo!! :) CC
 
BounceHitBounceHit

BounceHitBounceHit

Legend
BreakPoint said:
But just because they are not right for you does not mean that they are a waste of money for everyone, does it? Ask Craig Clark if he thinks the K90 is a waste of money.

So it really depends on whom you ask and what one considers "a waste of money". And I guess it also depends on how much money one has to waste. ;)
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Playing the K90 has taken my game to a much higher level, period. That and hitting 5-7 times per week with top level players and working out like mad. ;) CC
 
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