Looking after player health to make tennis more attractive to potential and existing participants.

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
The other day I was talking to a very nice lady who is a property investing author and I suggested to her that she should come on down and get into playing tennis and how it was such a great game and a lot of fun. She said to me that she had already tried it but developed a bad case of TE so she gave it away. I also know of a very top junior who also stopped playing due to developing stress fractures and disc issues in his lower back.
I have heard this sort of stuff quite a fair bit over the years and it got me thinking whether we are doing things right and could we make things better and more attractive to tennis players.
There are a couple of areas that I thought would be worth taking about and for this discussion I thought I would just raise the issue on playing surfaces.
In Europe and South America there is lots of clay, the US, Canada and Japan, lots of concrete and harcourt everywhere, where as in Australia while the professional venues have plexi -cushion hard courts many local clubs have synthetic grass and I would imagine the Uk would have some as well plus some clubs have synthetic clay.
With surfaces you have a variety of things you need t look at including cost, attractiveness. maintenance, heat reflection and playability but also health to the players. Even with elite juniors, you don’t want them playing on hard courts for too many weeks in a row so I wonder whether tennis needs to look at the surfaces from a well being and longevity point of view as you want people to enjoy playing for as long as possible into their senior years. Imagine tennis reaching out to the community with the message of how healthy the sport is compared to other sports that wreck the body, after all physical exercise was designed to make you healthier not injured.
Australia has many local clubs with synthetic grass and from a weather point of view you can continue playing during and after a storm or shower however many advanced players don’t like the playing characteristics of the surface snd depending on the age and type of grass the courts can play quite differently. We still have a few natural grass court centres as well. Incidentally does anyone play regularly on the synthetic clay, what’s your view on that?
The European clay needs lots of maintenance especially if it rains a lot and in dry and windy conditions the top dressing can blow away. In Melbourne they used to have a lot of En Tout Cas courts which was their version of clay and New South Wales had loam courts which was a mixture of clay and sand and if it was stabilised it was mixed with concrete powder. These surfaces have diminished due to the need to water them a lot in sumner during drought . A lot of these courts have now being converted to water synthetic grass.
The American green clay seems a lot easier to maintain than the red clay but the dark green to black is not that nice to look at. Maybe they could bleach the surface to be a nicer colour without the problems they had in Madrid with the blue clay which to be fair suffered from bad weather before the event,
Do people have any thoughts about surfaces and whether we could make better recommendations to make the courts better for player health?
Also do many of you have red and orange ball courts for the younger children getting into tennis,
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Well, clay is well known for helping with sore... knees. Why would a surface help with TE?
With TE, that will be on part 2 where I will talk about equipment, balls, racquets, technique and management which I have seen some pretty bad practices.
Thanks for mentioning about the clay. I really think we need to discuss things and get things moving in the right direction. Even on the pro tour there is a lot of stuff that’s going on that is pretty bad for tennis players wellness and welfare. I see many tennis coaches careers end up in disaster and what we need to do is to improve how tennis is done in every country.
One of the other things is the transition of the beginner into play, competitions and tournaments and how things are done. I have seen many young kids give up on competing because the whole situation is crazy. Not only are they ill equipped to deal with competition but the whole environment including parents and associations are not ideal.
Getting back to the clay, should manufacturers continue to put research into improvement in clay maintenance technologies and costing as well as research into synthetic surfaces to make them play better. They have improved synthetic grass here from what they originally were and Australia did try to inject comfort into rebound ace which was a rubberised hard court that didn’t work here because of price and temperature issues so they went to a cheaper surface called Plexi Cushion which was originally marketed by a company here called Court Craft In truth it was the paint could be bought from Dulux and was called Acra Tec which many do not want people to know. Basically the process at the AO was to apply 3 to 4 courts of rubberised paint followed by 3 coats of the blue colour which is meant to give the surface sine softer playing characteristics compared to a basic plexi pave which is an asphalt or concrete base with 2 costs of colour.
My understanding is that Flushing Meadow is pretty hard concrete based surface and maybe someone can correct me it it is something else. Originally they called it Deco Turf 2. Can someone advise ?
 
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If it's beginners or intermediate level tennis the surface shouldn't matter greatly imo. There are after all so many old people playing pickleball on the same hard court surface.
As for equipment there's a wide choice of racquets and balls, and people are free to use whatever.

The ramp up for beginner tennis is perhaps higher than many other sports, so some investment of time and effort is required on the court and either with a coach (preferably to not ingrain bad technique which can also lead to injuries) or self learn with online videos.

I'd think if someone has a passion for the game they will put in the effort to learn.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
If it's beginners or intermediate level tennis the surface shouldn't matter greatly imo. There are after all so many old people playing pickleball on the same hard court surface.
As for equipment there's a wide choice of racquets and balls, and people are free to use whatever.

The ramp up for beginner tennis is perhaps higher than many other sports, so some investment of time and effort is required on the court and either with a coach (preferably to not ingrain bad technique which can also lead to injuries) or self learn with online videos.

I'd think if someone has a passion for the game they will put in the effort to learn.
Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts. Do agree with having the passion and that is something we need to create to inspire others to share our passion.
With the pickleball players, the older ones, how many are new players compared to those who were former tennis players who switched to pickleball? We haven’t had the take up of pickleball in Australia like the US has so would be keen to get some data on that.
This video was released 2 days ago I thought I would share with everyone.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I am going to hunt down the data on how many tennis players have been sidelined due to playing surfaces that were unsatisfactory in terms of optimal body safety. Right now for example I am seeing quite a few ATP and WTA players either retired or out of the game for quite some time due to knee cartilage injuries as well as lower back and pereneal tendinitis.
And these injuries would extend to lots and lots of non pro players as well so I would want to encourage organisations to invest in optimal
olaying surfaces that protect and lengthen people’s enjoyment and success in tennis.
One of the problems is people being apathetic about the situation and saying that nothing is wrong until off course of it happens to yourself or one of your players. Even some medical people would rather just dish out anti inflammatory drugs or offer surgery than focus on the prevention which is a far better course of action.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Here are some cushioned hard court manufacturers advertising their product. Does your club have these types of hard courts.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Here’s one article about tennis injuries and surfaces.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
The point I am making is that as tennis people we need to start prioritising how to maximise the benefits of playing tennis from a health perspective.
It’s not good if you do all the work to motivate people to come and play tennis and then they can’t because they have developed injuries as a result of playing on crap surfaces.
Then you have the problem of making things cheap, cheap courts that deteriorate within a few years, tennis facilities that look tatty after a decade due to lack of maintenance, and the sport will suffer long term as a consequence of this type of mentality,
 

vokazu

Hall of Fame
It all starts from the tennis equipment manufacturer and racquet stringers. As long as tennis companies keep selling light racquets and polyester strings, new tennis players will develop tennis elbow, wrist injury and so on.

My relatives (young boy and girl) started playing tennis at a tennis club. Their coach endorsed light Babolat racquet and Babolat RPM Blast polyester string. They often have wrist issues and shoulder issues as well.

Tennis equipment manufacturer should really think about their customer's health. They should design racquets and strings that are comfortable to use. Most racquets at the retail shops are very light and is detrimental to the customers' health. Stringers also should think about their customers' health and choose the best string tension for them.

It's really like manufacturing shoes, bicycles, office chairs and so on. These items are designed with comfort in mind. Some products even come with warnings written on the manuals whether it can be potentially dangerous if used improperly. I remember the first bicycle I bought have a warning written on it: "Don't ride bike at night". It was a good warning, because one night even though I had my lights on, a car driver coming from my left almost hit me because he couldn't see my left side view at all (We drive on the left side of the road)... Luckily I was careful and saw the driver didn't slow down and I hit my brake straight away.

Racquet manufacturer should give customers these warnings if their product can cause health hazard such as: "Don't string with polyester string or high tension. Nylon string is softer and better for your arm's health". "Heavier racquet is better at absorbing power and absorbing vibration, thus it's better for your health".

In my opinion, Toalson Power Swing 400 is the best racquet off the shelf for people who want to start to play tennis. It's comfortable, it's powerful, very stable and easy to use. With lighter racquets most beginners would struggle to create pace and consistent deep shots. With Power Swing 400, it's easier to hit deep shots.
 
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