Solek
Rookie
Please watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ztnOfreSc
What's wrong with it? Please help me improve my serve thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ztnOfreSc
What's wrong with it? Please help me improve my serve thanks.
My Serve. Please Help
- Thread starter Solek
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You got that long weird hesitation that kills your power. Nobody can load up that long and still explode efficiently.
Lower your racket elbow on trophy, but yours is not bad.
Reach up your tossing had higher, but toss LOWER so you don't wait for the ball.
Nice swing.
More backhand on grip.
This computer is ubber slow, so only watched thru hesitatingly once.
Lower your racket elbow on trophy, but yours is not bad.
Reach up your tossing had higher, but toss LOWER so you don't wait for the ball.
Nice swing.
More backhand on grip.
This computer is ubber slow, so only watched thru hesitatingly once.
nadalfan1992
Rookie
Hey Leed was it just me or did he have a few balls too far in front or was it just me?I think he was loading too early again was it just me?
Solek
Rookie
Yeah... I noticed the tossing arm wasn't high enough too... been working on that. I experimented with lowering the toss also to mixed success. I'll give it a shot again... My grip seems to gravitate toward the eastern... is this due to improper swing/pronation?
What can i do besides lowering the toss to get rid of the weird hesitation?
What can i do besides lowering the toss to get rid of the weird hesitation?
Hesistation might be cured by lower toss, or MORE backscratch positioning. Longer takeback, more takeback.
Need conti grip with maybe eBACKh flavor to get the arc of the swing balanced. Right now, you have more swing AFTER you've hit the ball. You need to hit earlier, and use more prep and before swing, to contact the ball at the top, 12" inside the baseline, and then relax and followthru.
To hit the ball hard, you need more before time in the arc of your swing, and less after time.
At least you DO try to swing hard and fast, a very good thing to us.
Need conti grip with maybe eBACKh flavor to get the arc of the swing balanced. Right now, you have more swing AFTER you've hit the ball. You need to hit earlier, and use more prep and before swing, to contact the ball at the top, 12" inside the baseline, and then relax and followthru.
To hit the ball hard, you need more before time in the arc of your swing, and less after time.
At least you DO try to swing hard and fast, a very good thing to us.
charliefedererer
Legend
Just leave your tossing arm up longer. Leave it up until you are ready to start your swing. Every pro and good server leaves the tossing arm up.
That's because a good toss leads into an agressive trophy position with a steep angle between the raised front shoulder and the low back shoulder. It is from this position that you are ready to serve "up the mountain".
Keep your tossing arm parellel to the baseline, and begin turning away from the ball and bending your knees as part of your tossing motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIF-UaRUd6k
The movements of a good toss really should lead you into that good trophy position: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZp90h-Ar8&feature=channel
Note that to balance the steep shoulder angle which is part of the bow shape in the trophy position, you'll also naturally have to have your front hip forward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgeYmEScfgQ
If you can work on the flow from your toss into a good trophy position your serve will feel and look better.
That's because a good toss leads into an agressive trophy position with a steep angle between the raised front shoulder and the low back shoulder. It is from this position that you are ready to serve "up the mountain".
Keep your tossing arm parellel to the baseline, and begin turning away from the ball and bending your knees as part of your tossing motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIF-UaRUd6k
The movements of a good toss really should lead you into that good trophy position: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZp90h-Ar8&feature=channel
Note that to balance the steep shoulder angle which is part of the bow shape in the trophy position, you'll also naturally have to have your front hip forward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgeYmEScfgQ
If you can work on the flow from your toss into a good trophy position your serve will feel and look better.
GetBetterer
Hall of Fame
I can't tell your tossing as others seem to be able to, but it's your trophy pose.
It's awkward, not a whole lot of knee bend and your grip looks like it's for a forehand, instead of the standard continental.
Because your toss is low, you don't have a whole lot of time to set up for the shot, and because of that you run into hard hitting problems.
It's awkward, not a whole lot of knee bend and your grip looks like it's for a forehand, instead of the standard continental.
Because your toss is low, you don't have a whole lot of time to set up for the shot, and because of that you run into hard hitting problems.
Solek
Rookie
Ok now I'm a little confused... is the toss too high or too low? Is my grip also a problem? I notice after the serve that it twists a little toward the eastern grip... anyone see a problem there?
charliefedererer
Legend
Your first couple of tosses are way too high. Your last two are about right. So you need to develop a consistant toss ... that incorporates going into a trophy pose.
On the video it is hard to see the grip.
MurrayisBEAST
Rookie
You have a pause in the middle of your serve which is taking away a lot of your power and it doesn't seem like you're bending enough. (just my opinion)
okdude1992
Hall of Fame
your toss is too far in front and too high. this is causing that hitch in your serve.
oh yea and like others have said, you need to keep the tossing hand up longer.
if you go a little slower in the beginning of the motion i think that would help get rid of the hitch too.
oh yea and like others have said, you need to keep the tossing hand up longer.
if you go a little slower in the beginning of the motion i think that would help get rid of the hitch too.
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new_tennis_player
Banned
If you are going to jump during your serve, you might as well jump forward into your serve to put some torque on the ball.
Right now, it looks like you are jumping forward after you make contact, with your legs splayed, which only results in you losing your balance.
So, time your jump so that you jump forward as you are hitting, not after.
Right now, it looks like you are jumping forward after you make contact, with your legs splayed, which only results in you losing your balance.
So, time your jump so that you jump forward as you are hitting, not after.
Djlpenguin
Rookie
get a yippy grip
Solek
Rookie
phoenicks
Professional
listen to charliefedererer, to give you some reference examples from better angle,
Soderling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaAhBME6jtA&feature=related
Safin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhrfqjokS_Q
Look a their tossing arm and their steep shoulder angle, I would say work on getting your tossing arm up longer, you lower your tossing arm too early before you started your racquet drop, you should only lower your tossing arm up until the you are in the middle of your racquet drop, do not try to lower it when you begin your racquet drop since you haven't really grasp it, you'll very often end up lower it before your racquet drop. Furthermore, your tossing arm should pointed straight up at the sky, rather than slanted (what you're doing right now), look at Soderling tossing arm in the video example provided.
At the same time, work on getting your toss further back and lower as it's too further in front and high now.
In addition, you can work on getting a steep shoulder angle at the same time or after you get the above 2 things done above depending on your level of dedication and talent. Steep shoulder angle is the single most essential element that separates high level server from the mediocre level ( Assuming timing, pronation and all other vital fundamentals are there ). Steep shoulder angle enable you to hit a more powerful serve, because it gives you more room to accelerate your racquet upwards to hit the ball (after you ended your racquet drop ).
Soderling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaAhBME6jtA&feature=related
Safin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhrfqjokS_Q
Look a their tossing arm and their steep shoulder angle, I would say work on getting your tossing arm up longer, you lower your tossing arm too early before you started your racquet drop, you should only lower your tossing arm up until the you are in the middle of your racquet drop, do not try to lower it when you begin your racquet drop since you haven't really grasp it, you'll very often end up lower it before your racquet drop. Furthermore, your tossing arm should pointed straight up at the sky, rather than slanted (what you're doing right now), look at Soderling tossing arm in the video example provided.
At the same time, work on getting your toss further back and lower as it's too further in front and high now.
In addition, you can work on getting a steep shoulder angle at the same time or after you get the above 2 things done above depending on your level of dedication and talent. Steep shoulder angle is the single most essential element that separates high level server from the mediocre level ( Assuming timing, pronation and all other vital fundamentals are there ). Steep shoulder angle enable you to hit a more powerful serve, because it gives you more room to accelerate your racquet upwards to hit the ball (after you ended your racquet drop ).
