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vernonbc

Legend
Nadal: 'Be Humble Enough To Accept The Process'

Spaniard seeks second Australian Open title, record 21st major



Considering all he’s been through in the past six months, Rafael Nadal couldn’t have asked for a better start to 2022.

The Mallorcan played just 29 matches last year, sidelined mid-summer by a left foot injury. Then, just as he was returning to form in December, he tested positive for COVID-19. Yet more time away from the practice court. But since his arrival Down Under, it looks as if he never missed a beat. He claimed his first event of the season — the Melbourne Summer Set — flashing his trademark form and turning back serve-and-volleyer Maxime Cressy in the final, 7-6(6), 6-3.

Then again, Nadal is no stranger to comebacks.

“Unfortunately, I’ve gone through this situation a couple of times in my career,” said the 35-year-old. “But you never know. The day will arrive that a comeback will be impossible. But I just want to try again, no? I want to give my best. I want to give myself a chance to keep enjoying this beautiful sport, to keep fighting for the things that I have been fighting for for the last 16 years.

“Sometimes it’s difficult when you’re going through a lot of physical issues,” he continued. “[It’s] been a very challenging time for me. The last year and a half with my foot, I have been suffering a lot. I think I hold a positive attitude and the working spirit all the time. That’s probably why I’m here today.”

Nadal will set out in pursuit of a record 21st major singles title next week when play gets underway at the Australian Open, a number that would break a three-way stalemate with career-long rivals Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic. The 2009 champion, a runner-up in 2012, 2014, 2017 and 2019, will open against former UCLA standout Marcos Giron of the United States.

Nadal, who hasn’t played a Grand Slam match since falling to Djokovic in an epic five-set semi-final last year at Roland Garros, knows he will have to be patient.

“When you’re coming back from injuries and from a period of time that you are not on the tour, you need to accept that the things are not going to be perfect,” he explained. “That’s the main thing for me: accept that you are sometimes moving a little bit slower, sometimes you are going to miss, sometimes things are not coming that quick and that automatic.

"You need to think more about how to play, about shots, about technical stuff. But it’s about time. I know that. You need to forgive yourself the mistakes and be humble enough to accept the process, accept that sometimes things not going to go that way.”

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/nadal-a ... tournament
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Australian Open 2022

January 17, 2022
R1, Rafa vs Marcos Giron

Through to R2!



The same video with Spanish commentary:


Vamos Rafa!
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ADuck

Legend
Question for Rafa fans. Was Rafa saying in his on-court post-match interview with Courier that he was having troubles with his foot as early as 2020 RG?
 

vernonbc

Legend
Question for Rafa fans. Was Rafa saying in his on-court post-match interview with Courier that he was having troubles with his foot as early as 2020 RG?
Yes. He was saying (as he said many times during that time period) that when Spain and basically the whole world shut down in March/April of 2020 when the pandemic first hit, he was confined to his house like everyone else was. When he was finally able to get back on the practice courts after a couple of months, he suffered trying to get back into shape but it was his foot that bothered him the most. He really struggled with it and it compromised the amount of time he was able to practice and he and the doctors have tried to find something that would alleviate the pain since then.

The foot has bothered him for many years - @octobrina10 , when did that bone in his foot shatter? 2004? 2006? Anyway, he's basically played championship tennis for almost 20 years with a broken foot. Amazing. But for some reason, that two month period of inactivity in 2020 really buggered up his foot. It helped his knees but made his foot worse.
 

ADuck

Legend
Yes. He was saying (as he said many times during that time period) that when Spain and basically the whole world shut down in March/April of 2020 when the pandemic first hit, he was confined to his house like everyone else was. When he was finally able to get back on the practice courts after a couple of months, he suffered trying to get back into shape but it was his foot that bothered him the most. He really struggled with it and it compromised the amount of time he was able to practice and he and the doctors have tried to find something that would alleviate the pain since then.

The foot has bothered him for many years - @octobrina10 , when did that bone in his foot shatter? 2004? 2006? Anyway, he's basically played championship tennis for almost 20 years with a broken foot. Amazing. But for some reason, that two month period of inactivity in 2020 really buggered up his foot. It helped his knees but made his foot worse.
Thanks for responding. Do you happen to know more about the details of the procedure he had done and how it will affect his foot going forward?
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Question for Rafa fans. Was Rafa saying in his on-court post-match interview with Courier that he was having troubles with his foot as early as 2020 RG?

Here is his answer on this subject from the presser:


"Yep, I don't know why but that's true. After that seven, eight weeks of lockdown, everything was worse. I tell you one thing, the knees have been better than ever after that period of time but the foot had been worse than ever for the last year and a half, so... I always had a problem on the foot during my whole tennis career, that sometimes especially under cold conditions I suffered a lot. But I was able to play all my career with not many limitations in terms of competing in the tournaments, no? But... after that period of time everything changed and I was not able to practice at all or play the proper way during the last two years. So hopefully I will have the chance to do it more often."
 

ADuck

Legend
Here is his answer on this subject from the presser:


"Yep, I don't know why but that's true. After that seven, eight weeks of lockdown, everything was worse. I tell you one thing, the knees have been better than ever after that period of time but the foot had been worse than ever for the last year and a half, so... I always had a problem on the foot during my whole tennis career, that sometimes especially under cold conditions I suffered a lot. But I was able to play all my career with not many limitations in terms of competing in the tournaments, no? But... after that period of time everything changed and I was not able to practice at all or play the proper way during the last two years. So hopefully I will have the chance to do it more often."
Wow. This actually gives me some hope he could win slams again if his foot improves and he's able to practise the correct way again.
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks for responding. Do you happen to know more about the details of the procedure he had done and how it will affect his foot going forward?

Traditional treatment for his congenital foot condition, Muller-Weiss syndrome, is a bone graft, however such a foot operation would essentially end his tennis career. I personally have speculated that he had a more experimental procedure done in which rather than transplanting bone to the impacted area of the foot, they injected gel into his foot to alleviate the pressure and pain. This is not a common procedure but has had documented success with athletes in the past. But this has not been confirmed and is only my speculation based on Nadal referencing having a procedure done for his foot, but a bone graft being a non-starter.

The procedure I reference: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21063683/
 

K-H

Hall of Fame
Feels like I haven't been on this news thread in a while.
Hard to stay into tennis as much when rafa is injured

Not sure what my expectations are for this tournament. I'll always have the hope he can win anything he enters, but as long as he is able to play competitive tennis, is enough for me at this stage
 

ADuck

Legend
Traditional treatment for his congenital foot condition, Muller-Weiss syndrome, is a bone graft, however such a foot operation would essentially end his tennis career. I personally have speculated that he had a more experimental procedure done in which rather than transplanting bone to the impacted area of the foot, they injected gel into his foot to alleviate the pressure and pain. This is not a common procedure but has had documented success with athletes in the past. But this has not been confirmed and is only my speculation based on Nadal referencing having a procedure done for his foot, but a bone graft being a non-starter.

The procedure I reference: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21063683/
I've also read that essentially almost zero methods of treatment are available for this because it is so rare. Perhaps if this was a more common thing though someone would have already invented a better or perhaps a permanent fix? Only hypothesizing though.
 

vernonbc

Legend
I've also read that essentially almost zero methods of treatment are available for this because it is so rare. Perhaps if this was a more common thing though someone would have already invented a better or perhaps a permanent fix? Only hypothesizing though.
How do you fix a shattered bone though? They need pins and plates and screws and whatnot and there would go any flexibility in his foot and his tennis career would be over. :cry:

I read somewhere that they may have tried some putty type material that would flex with the foot but still hold the bone together but I'm pretty sure I didn't hear that from Rafa or his camp and maybe it's just an experimental procedure they're trying. It may well be some podiatrist's fantasy but I do think I did read something semi-official that Rafa and his doctors were trying something out of the mainstream. He seems to be moving fairly well so maybe whatever experiment they're conducting is working. :unsure:
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
How do you fix a shattered bone though? They need pins and plates and screws and whatnot and there would go any flexibility in his foot and his tennis career would be over. :cry:

I read somewhere that they may have tried some putty type material that would flex with the foot but still hold the bone together but I'm pretty sure I didn't hear that from Rafa or his camp and maybe it's just an experimental procedure they're trying. It may well be some podiatrist's fantasy but I do think I did read something semi-official that Rafa and his doctors were trying something out of the mainstream. He seems to be moving fairly well so maybe whatever experiment they're conducting is working. :unsure:

The bone isn't shattered really, with Muller weiss there is too much pressure/pain because there is bone on bone contact where there shouldn't be, presumably Rafa's foot joint is now worn down and the gel/putty would fill the space to alleviate pressure and prevent bone-bone contact.

03_29_2017_Mueller_Weiss_Syndrome_600x.jpg
 

vernonbc

Legend
The bone apparently disintegrates. The bone dies and with movement and usage, pieces of the bone chafe and fall off. As the illustration shows, the joint becomes degenerated. Normal foot activity is difficult with this syndrome but you can just imagine what Rafa's done to his foot with his ultimate energy and athleticism.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes. He was saying (as he said many times during that time period) that when Spain and basically the whole world shut down in March/April of 2020 when the pandemic first hit, he was confined to his house like everyone else was. When he was finally able to get back on the practice courts after a couple of months, he suffered trying to get back into shape but it was his foot that bothered him the most. He really struggled with it and it compromised the amount of time he was able to practice and he and the doctors have tried to find something that would alleviate the pain since then.

The foot has bothered him for many years - @octobrina10 , when did that bone in his foot shatter? 2004? 2006? Anyway, he's basically played championship tennis for almost 20 years with a broken foot. Amazing. But for some reason, that two month period of inactivity in 2020 really buggered up his foot. It helped his knees but made his foot worse.
The congenital anomaly of a bone in Rafa's left foot started to bother him at the end of 2005, when it started to cause him pain. Doctors told him then that he might never be able to play tennis again. He started to wear a special sole (designed by doctors and changed, if nessecary) in his tennis shoe (Nike makes his shoes wider and higher than normal shoes).
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Australian Open 2022

January 17, 2022
R1, Rafa vs Marcos Giron
Post-match press conference

Rafa was asked a question about the GOAT debate at his post-match press conference held in Spanish. He replied he doesn't think his happiness depends on whether or not he would end up with the most Grand Slams titles. Eurosport's article below is based on his answer.

Eurosport, 17 January 2022:
¤¤ NADAL NOT INTERESTED IN MOVIE SURROUNDING GOAT DEBATE

...While the tennis community is obsessed with the GOAT debate and are curious to see who will end up with the most Grand Slams in their trophy cabinet, Nadal shared his own perspective and explained why eclipsing his rivals is not an all-consuming goal.

“I’ll tell you one thing, and I say it with my hand on my heart,” Nadal told Spanish media following his straight-sets win over Marcos Giron on Monday.

“I understand this whole GOAT ‘movie’ that has been built around all of this. I live in my day to day, and my day to day and my concerns are different to all this about being the best in history.

“I am being honest, this is not a show. In the end, we have coincided as three players who have obviously achieved special things in the history of our sport. No one had done them before. If someone ends up winning more, then fantastic; really. Somehow, the three of us have far exceeded any of our expectations from when we were young.

“We have all fulfilled our dream and we have surpassed it by quite a bit. And the reality is that I am very happy with everything that has happened until today. That doesn't mean that I don't want to continue enjoying what I do, but I don't live with the inner anguish or desperation of wanting to be the one with the most (Grand Slams).

“If it comes, it comes. I don't think my future happiness depends on whether I end up winning one more Grand Slam than Novak or Roger. I will continue doing what I do to continue enjoying my career to the fullest." ¤¤

Rafa has always said the same. :) Vamos Rafa!
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Relaxing Time

Sunreef Yachts posted an interview with Rafa filmed during the 2021 Monaco Yacht Show at the end of September:


The video contains clips filmed in Mallorca in 2020. Sunreef Yachts is a manufacturer of Rafa's yacht, and Rafa is the company's ambassador.

An interesting interview. :)
 

dellealpi10

Rookie
Wow. This actually gives me some hope he could win slams again if his foot improves and he's able to practise the correct way again.

Yes. I really think he can win Slams upon he's able to practise properly.

After the pandemic hit, he only competed at 3 GSs: RG2020, AU2021, RG2021 and I think the biggest issue is his stamina.
-AU2021: He lead Tstsipas after first 2 sets but missed the chance to close the match after the 3rd set. Then, he collapsed and lost the match.
-RG2021: He exhausted after first 3 sets and lost last 6 games of the 4th set.
-RG2020: He won. However, if he could not win the 3rd set against Djokovic in the final, we don't know what was going on at that match.

In recent 2 years, he almost exhausted after 3 sets and almost no chance if the match went to the 4th or 5th set. I think his decline stamina is due to improper practise. His improper practise is due to his foot issue I think.

Federer could play 3 hours against Nadal in Semi, then 5 hours against Djokovic at 38. I don't think Nadal is weaker than Federer.
 

ElChivoEspañol

Hall of Fame
Yes. I really think he can win Slams upon he's able to practise properly.

After the pandemic hit, he only competed at 3 GSs: RG2020, AU2021, RG2021 and I think the biggest issue is his stamina.
-AU2021: He lead Tstsipas after first 2 sets but missed the chance to close the match after the 3rd set. Then, he collapsed and lost the match.
-RG2021: He exhausted after first 3 sets and lost last 6 games of the 4th set.
-RG2020: He won. However, if he could not win the 3rd set against Djokovic in the final, we don't know what was going on at that match.

In recent 2 years, he almost exhausted after 3 sets and almost no chance if the match went to the 4th or 5th set. I think his decline stamina is due to improper practise. His improper practise is due to his foot issue I think.

Federer could play 3 hours against Nadal in Semi, then 5 hours against Djokovic at 38. I don't think Nadal is weaker than Federer.
I voiced the same logic and someone said that Nadal had more miles on him, which may be true, however does not paint the whole picture.

Nadal isn't playing long rallies anymore, he's coming in to the net to finish points a lot more often in the last 2 years, he is also a lot more aggressive from the baseline, so this sharp decline in stamina may very well be attributed to physical hinderance.
 

Cupcake

Hall of Fame
I voiced the same logic and someone said that Nadal had more miles on him, which may be true, however does not paint the whole picture.

Likely true about the many miles. But the last couple years he's also had good rest. He said in a recent interview that even though his foot has given him trouble, his knees feel better than they have for a long time.
 

Beulah Jesus

Hall of Fame

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Australian Open 2022

January 19, 2022
R2, Rafa vs Y.Hanfmann

Post-match press conference (In English until 8:00):


Vamos Rafa!
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru

Yugram

Legend
My takes after today’s match:

• The movement improved a lot even in comparison with R1 match. There were points where Nadal was stretched to outside one corridor and then immediately outside the other.

• The return improved A LOT. Had Nadal faced Hanfmann in Melbourne 250 there would’ve been at least 1 tiebreak.

• Not being broken even once in 3 hours long match against well playing opponent is fantastic result, even though first serve % was low today.

• That’s the most emotionally invested I’ve seen Nadal in a while, maybe even since Davis Cup 2019. A lot of explicit positive reactions, energetic body language (been quite lethargic between points ever since Rome 2020)
 

intrepidish

Hall of Fame
Australian Open 2022

January 19, 2022
R2, Rafa vs Y.Hanfmann

Post-match press conference (In English until 8:00):


Vamos Rafa!


The Spanish portion of the press conference is actually unusually interesting. The discussion of balls, night play and Rafa's self assessment game wise and health wise is very detailed.
 

intrepidish

Hall of Fame
Can you summarize the most interesting responses?

There was a lot in there actually and a lot of nuances. The questions were much better than the English language questions too (as is often the case) and Rafael Plaza, whom the Nadal crew probably trust more than any other journalist, also asked a question.

So Nadal discussed the differences in the balls used by the ATP in recent times not taking spin as well as was the case years ago which he feels leads to more uniformity in play styles and Nadal referred back to this during Plaza's question about night play which Plaza noted does seem to adversely impact him a bit more at the AO. Nadal agreed and said the combination of the balls and the night conditions at the AO is something he's definitely not particularly fond of.

Nadal's self assessment was that he was still a good distance from the level he'd like to be playing at though he left open the idea he might get there with improvements from match to match.

He discussed the foot with more openness as well. It's not something which is going away and it still causes him pain but while he thinks he can play with some chances for wins and success it's something he can tolerate.

I'd have to watch it again for the very specific comments but that's a general idea.

I'd suggest reading Rafael Plaza's articles, interviews and match reports even if you have to use a translator (usually in El Español daily but sometimes in other spots as well).
 

ElChivoEspañol

Hall of Fame
My takes after today’s match:

• The movement improved a lot even in comparison with R1 match. There were points where Nadal was stretched to outside one corridor and then immediately outside the other.

• The return improved A LOT. Had Nadal faced Hanfmann in Melbourne 250 there would’ve been at least 1 tiebreak.

• Not being broken even once in 3 hours long match against well playing opponent is fantastic result, even though first serve % was low today.

• That’s the most emotionally invested I’ve seen Nadal in a while, maybe even since Davis Cup 2019. A lot of explicit positive reactions, energetic body language (been quite lethargic between points ever since Rome 2020)

Agree with all of these.

The movement in particular was surprising to witness, he switched something ON and was moving as well as pre-pandemic even. Let's hope the body can hold up.
 
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