Please help me name this string !

[Jbob19292]

Long story short,

I bought a Wilson k 95 16x20 from **** and it came strung, I decided to play with it and I love this hybrid setup. Unlike anything, I have felt before when striking the ball.
When hitting, the ball feels like it pockets really well and has a lot of power. If anyone knows this string and can identify by the way it wears out what brand it is, please help.

Both strings have no brand naming on them and the seller doesn’t know either what strings they are.
I think the main is just a generic poly. I am not too concerned with the mains as I believe whatever the crosses are is what is making the difference in feel.

I have already bought a few strings because from the online photo it looked to be the same but they are not

The strings I have already bought which they ended up NOT being the same are:

Technifibre X one bi phase in red

Wilson Synthetic gut "power" in red

Dunlop S-Gut in red

TL;DR

My question is can someone please help identify the cross string shown here?

https://imgur.com/a/MhePn2J

https://imgur.com/a/ya1zscE

(Sorry I don't know how to embed the link better)

 

[TennisDr]

Perhaps PSG16 or Prince Lightning?

 

[Slowtwitcher]

By the way it wears out it looks like PSG 16.

 

[Jbob19292]

Perhaps PSG16 or Prince Lightning?

Thank you, I am going to look those up now,
Is it weird that it had no marking of name or brand at all? I took this photo after about 3 hours of play, so when I received it, it was pretty fresh and no manufacture name.

I would like to mention that the outer layer frays out the way it shows in the photos, and the core underneath never frayed. So I don't even know if it a multi or what.

I played about another 4.5 hours after those photos and no fraying of the string underneath the red.

 

[Jbob19292]

By the way it wears out it looks like PSG 16.

Thank you both! I will order up some PSG 16 and give it a try.
It is hard when you zoom in on the photo online because the others I ordered looked like it would be the same but after receiving it, it didn't have the same type of pattern.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

BTW the feeling of 'ball pocketing' might come from the crosses wearing off. Once the outer layer wears off and it's down to the solid core, the string loses a lot of tension.

 

[Jay Winzenz]

To me it looks like Babolat Spiraltek

 

[esgee48]

Cross is not POSG 16. Does not wear like it and red color is not available. Also Bab SpiralTek has name printed on string.

 

[shadow01]

Maybe this in red?

Prince Synthetic Gut 16/1.30 Duraflex String | Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com

 

[Jbob19292]

Cross is not POSG 16. Does not wear like it and red color is not available. Also Bab SpiralTek has name printed on string.

The name not being printed is what tripping me up !
Like I mentioned, I received racquet with a fairly fresh string job and no name printed anywhere.
I’ve been searching every dang red string I can online but they are all name brand and I’m sure it’s printed on the string

 

[Jbob19292]

BTW the feeling of 'ball pocketing' might come from the crosses wearing off. Once the outer layer wears off and it's down to the solid core, the string loses a lot of tension.

thanks for the input, I know that ball pocketing is a hot debate on here. I’ll keep that in mind when I string later, that after whatever I string will play how I like it after it settles in.

 

[TennisDr]

The name not being printed is what tripping me up !
Like I mentioned, I received racquet with a fairly fresh string job and no name printed anywhere.
I’ve been searching every dang red string I can online but they are all name brand and I’m sure it’s printed on the string

I feel like the brand name comes off synthetic gut fairly quickly. Usually can only find a piece of it where the string goes through grommet if you're lucky.

Should have clarified PSG16 with Duraflex as that does come in red (thx @shadow01). I have had similar experiences with the color versions of that string wearing down to that clearer/white core.

 

[Jbob19292]

I feel like the brand name comes off synthetic gut fairly quickly. Usually can only find a piece of it where the string goes through grommet if you're lucky.

Should have clarified PSG16 with Duraflex as that does come in red (thx @shadow01). I have had similar experiences with the color versions of that string wearing down to that clearer/white core.

Awesome, thank you I will be trying that next.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

I feel like the brand name comes off synthetic gut fairly quickly. Usually can only find a piece of it where the string goes through grommet if you're lucky.

Should have clarified PSG16 with Duraflex as that does come in red (thx @shadow01). I have had similar experiences with the color versions of that string wearing down to that clearer/white core.

But, but, but... @esgee48 said it wasn't! And he sounded so definitive and knowledgeable!

 

[esgee48]

I use POSG 16 and I know it does not come in red. It's my current string of choice. PSGD 16 has a kevlar wrap ribbon around the core. When that string wears, it wears away around that wrap, which I do not see in the image.

 

[Jbob19292]

I use POSG 16 and I know it does not come in red. It's my current string of choice. PSGD 16 has a kevlar wrap ribbon around the core. When that string wears, it wears away around that wrap, which I do not see in the image.

you don’t see in the first image the wrap wearing out?
I clipped the fraying with nail clippers before taking the photo, but i think it’s clear that the red wrap is fraying on the outside

 

[Humbi_HTX]

I have not tried it in red, mine was gold, but it reminds me of PSGD in how its braided and how the colored layer frays away leaving the white core. If I was to pick any other syn.gut than gosen, I would try again PSGD but white.

 

[Brando]

@Jbob19292 , it's been 3 months since you posted your mystery and no one seems to have come up with a viable answer. Crud! I had planned to suggest it looks like Dunlop Synthetic S-Gut reds until I just noticed you already ruled that out. Sorry.

Booby prize: You didn't ask about the mains but I think I may know that string, even tho you're less interested in it. Looks like a (rare?) silver color way of Gosen OG Sheep Micro that I ran across on--well, the forum won't let me post the link. But I made the discovery on a site that sounds like re-bay. Go there, type in a search for 'Gosen OG Sheep Micro', and a liquidation sale of 10 (and separately 20) sets of OGSM silver will show up pretty high in the results.

One indicator I may be right is that Gosen doesn't print ID text on this string like most other makers do. Another indicator is that making a hybrid of two syn guts may be rare, but thanks to threads about it on this forum maybe more folks are doing it. And if I'm right, this string may have more to do with the feel you're looking for than you think given that A) it's an entirely different material than you supposed, and B) the mains typically have more of an influence on a stringbed's feel than the crosses.

If you've already solved this mystery, do let me know if I'm right. Otherwise, I hope this helps.

 

[Steve Huff]

Doesn't look like PSGD either, and definitely not Prince Lightning. I can see why you thought it was Dunlop S-Gut. But, if it looked freshly strung and had no name on the string, I'd bet it wasn't a major brand (Prince, Head, Yonex, Wilson, Babolat, etc). I'm guessing it was one of Pro's Pro strings. Probably a synthetic gut.

 

[Brando]

If you're right about the red being syn gut--and I bet you are--it adds another rub. Another legend, I think it was fortune8son, once pointed out that nylon that's rested for a time can stiffen up even as the tension of the stringbed has degraded. This makes it practically impossible for a stringer to duplicate its feel even if the strings and ref tensions are known.

Know what? I'm daft. The answer to his mystery isn't the strings. It's sussing the bed's dynamic tension. Once he knows that, he can reproduce it with practically any strings he wants. The only question'd be finding the combo to hold tension longest, and logging the ref tension(s) for future.

I've never tried to get D.T. measured. Would a decent pro shop have the means to measuring a stringbed? ...What instrument would one use?

 

[esm]

Doesn't look like PSGD either, and definitely not Prince Lightning. I can see why you thought it was Dunlop S-Gut. But, if it looked freshly strung and had no name on the string, I'd bet it wasn't a major brand (Prince, Head, Yonex, Wilson, Babolat, etc). I'm guessing it was one of Pro's Pro strings. Probably a synthetic gut.

Most/some Pros pro Syn gut has name on it. I don’t have red ones though.