Please help me with my forehand

coupergear

Professional
I think there was a major difference between the First videos and 2nd. In 2nd you don't move your feet around and keep your stance more still-- your forehead looks way better . it was that weird jump move you were doing switching into a closed stance from open that was causing problems. But you still need to open your stance up more. in 2nd vid you still lead with that left foot, weighting it...and toe drag/curtsy your back right leg. Watch the pros, you really should be driving off your back right leg and letting your torso rotate for power. Your left leg should be unweighted...watch pros-- left leg lifts off ground at contact!

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marian10

Rookie
Re: pointing the tip of the racket to the back fence - Ive seen some videos saying it should be out 45 degrees and to limit the backswing. One video I saw advocated that the racket should not extend behind the trunk at all and talked about a drill standing in front of a fence and swinging, making sure the racket doesnt hit the fence.

I think you're talking about the left photo of Federer. I'm talking about the position of the racquet in this photo on the right and below. Pause your videos and you will notice the tip of your racquet never reaches this position


forehand-leg-extension.jpg


This

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Re: contact point. I used to have a lot of topspin, too much in fact as it would produce a lot of shortballs, and have tried to initiate a more horizontal ;slap' component into my swing, as opposed to 'shovelling'. Ill work on lowering my contact a little - Im confident Ill be able to get under the ball more.

Contact point has nothing to do with spin and swing trajectory. You can hit flatter from any height. You have to understand that your elevated contact point is incorrect unless you're attacking inside the court with almost zero spin, like 1 or two times in a set. You cannot have a consistent, accelerated rallye ball hitting this high.

Your backswing (not your unit turn) being late, you are forced to bypass the raquet drop (which has to ALWAYS happen either for flat or topspin shots). Bypassing that phase breaks the dynamics of the modern take back: no gravity acceleration (think penduluum) and no distance to travel. I prefer the arm extension in your early videos.

This is a long article about the racquet drop. The coach also talks about the amplitude of take back and how it has to stay on the side. BUT the racquet has to be swung under the ball for any type of shots that contains even a little amount of topspin. i guess you don't wat to hit an old school flat forehand? :)

http://ftptennis.net/ftp-tennis-col...ction-01-the-forehand-racquet-drop-explained/

Just to make sure you understand the importance of racquet drop, imagine you own serve without any racquet drop. It would look and feel weird wouldn't it? Now imagine a serve contact point that is way too low. That's what your FH contact point looks like (but too high).

Good luck
 

zalive

Hall of Fame

This picture.
I was hitting the wall yesterday, trying to understand the body kinetics and searching for the best options. And then I came consciously to what workes best for me so far.
I found it very important where is the position of my behind leg.

For FH it's for me somewhere between a neutral and a semi open stance, I guess closer to neutral. But what's important to me is that my legs are spread, with left leg (I'm right-handed as well) staying forward, and weight being on the right leg which is significantly behind. With legs being spread my body is positioned little lower just like on this pic. Then takeback, weight is still on the right foot. When I start to swing the best I can do is to start transfering the weight to my left (fore) leg and lean a bit forward, while performing the hip rotation coordinated with weight transfer to left leg. Some wrist lag for the speed, legs spread. In the moment of contact/impact body stance is open, weight is fully transfered to the left leg, body is leaned forward, and right foot lifted so I only touch the ground with the tip of the leg - the result of a weight transfer and hip rotation.

Wawrinka_backhand_Getty.jpg


For OHBH the best I can do is to ensure that my left leg is behind and on the right side, just like on Wawrinka pic. Stance is completely closed prior to swing, weight is again on the behind leg (now it's the left leg of course), and legs are again spread. I feel the best when I put my left leg pretty far to the right. In the swing its again the same, body/hips rotation and weight transfer to the fore (right) leg, lifting if right foot to stand on the tip, in the moment of contact finishing on a neutral to open stance, I feel the best when finishing the swing with my body slightly leaned forward.

Anyway, I found that for both of my shots the most important where is the position of my behind leg in the preparation, and that I like it pretty spread from the front leg and enough behind.
 
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marian10

Rookie
OP watch this video

Notice :

preparation timing

micro steps in a very small perimeter

lower contact point

racquet drop (even the girl)

extension forward


 

dlam

Semi-Pro
I like the eastern forehand for most fast pace ball. I switch to some form of western usually semi with slower balls and ones that sit up
 

coupergear

Professional
This picture.
I was hitting the wall yesterday, trying to understand the body kinetics and searching for the best options. And then I came consciously to what workes best for me so far.
I found it very important where is the position of my behind leg.

For FH it's for me somewhere between a neutral and a semi open stance, I guess closer to neutral. But what's important to me is that my legs are spread, with left leg (I'm right-handed as well) staying forward, and weight being on the right leg which is significantly behind. With legs being spread my body is positioned little lower just like on this pic. Then takeback, weight is still on the right foot. When I start to swing the best I can do is to start transfering the weight to my left (fore) leg and lean a bit forward, while performing the hip rotation coordinated with weight transfer to left leg. Some wrist lag for the speed, legs spread. In the moment of contact/impact body stance is open, weight is fully transfered to the left leg, body is leaned forward, and right foot lifted so I only touch the ground with the tip of the leg - the result of a weight transfer and hip rotation.

Wawrinka_backhand_Getty.jpg


For OHBH the best I can do is to ensure that my left leg is behind and on the right side, just like on Wawrinka pic. Stance is completely closed prior to swing, weight is again on the behind leg (now it's the left leg of course), and legs are again spread. I feel the best when I put my left leg pretty far to the right. In the swing its again the same, body/hips rotation and weight transfer to the fore (right) leg, lifting if right foot to stand on the tip, in the moment of contact finishing on a neutral to open stance, I feel the best when finishing the swing with my body slightly leaned forward.

Anyway, I found that for both of my shots the most important where is the position of my behind leg in the preparation, and that I like it pretty spread from the front leg and enough behind.
Yes but that photo is misleading wawrinka is hitting a shorter, low ball so having to step onto his front (left foot) more. Look at the rest of the clip...in his regular forehand hes driving off his back (right) leg and the left leg does not drive forward- rather it unweights completely at contact.

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