'Pocket' or 'illegal' string job?

msalamon

Rookie
Guys-check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4MsfyXxF_k

What do you think of this stringing idea? It sounds like it may be worth a try to me...

summary as I understand it:
Mains: poly on every other string
crosses: poly on every other string without weaving
Mains: string remaining gaps with multi without weaving
crosses: string reaming gaps with multi and weave


crazy? or crazy good?
 

4-string

Professional
How do people come up with this stuff? Certainly crazy, could be crazy good as well for all I know, but this must be just as illegal as the spaghetti pattern.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
It is legal but it is going to be very hard to weave in the final crosses. Waste of time if you ask me.
 
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msalamon

Rookie
Thanks Irvin-you have helped a lot of us here with our stringing questions( you helped get me started stringing a few years back as a matter of fact!)

so what is this spaghetti pattern?

also, I dont play any sanctioned tournaments-so Im interested in any stringing patterns that may give me an edge-legal or not.

Thanks
 

vandre

Hall of Fame
this is an example of a spaghetti strung racquet

Spagetti015.jpg
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Thanks Irvin-you have helped a lot of us here with our stringing questions( you helped get me started stringing a few years back as a matter of fact!)

so what is this spaghetti pattern?

also, I dont play any sanctioned tournaments-so Im interested in any stringing patterns that may give me an edge-legal or not.

Thanks

Spaghetti pattern illegal
strings.jpg
 

McLovin

Legend
also, I dont play any sanctioned tournaments-so Im interested in any stringing patterns that may give me an edge-legal or not.

Well, if you're going to cheat, why stop at stringing? Call every ball within 6 in of the line 'out', stand 2ft inside the baseline on your serve, and call the score wrong to see if you can get away with it.

Seriously, you don't care about the rules because you don't play 'sanctioned' tournaments?
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
Both of these look like a ridiculous waste of time. I'd charge an arm and a leg to a customer who wants that. Like, $300 arm-and-leg.

Yes, but at the U.S. Open in the late 70, little-known American Mike Fishbach, having notably rigged his own spaghetti racquet with Venetian-blind cord, upset Stan Smith in the second round. Two weeks after the U.S. Open, “Ilie Nastase was beaten by a player using a ‘spaghetti’ racket in Paris and swore he would never play against it again. The following week Nastase turned up with one and used it to win a tournament at Aix-en-Provence, ending Guillermo Vilas’ long winning streak [of 46 straight matches] in the final. Vilas quit after two sets, claiming that playing against the exaggerated spin injured his elbow.”

If a qualifier could use a (legal) string pattern to win a tournament you would get your $300 in a heart beat. The problem with these patterns is they do not generate spin the player has to do that. But in the right hands the spin produced can be ridiculous hence the reasoning behind the illegal pattern.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
a Poster on another forum said:
Hello All,

I am responding to the spaghetti racquet mystique. Back in the late 70s early 80s I was as a local tournament doubles player. Now, I just fart around with my kids. Historically, if I recall right, the spaghetti racquet first became visible by a famous pro, Illie Natasie. He broke Guillermo Villas clay court streak of 58 something matches with this racquet. It was quickly outlawed by the USTA, etc. I have played with a spaghetti racquet for the fun of it. At the time some local tennis shops were selling this expensive stringing to customers so they could learn how to hit a topspin ball! Yipps! For a beginner this was a nightmare and a rip-off! OK…to the spaghetti racquet. The characteristics is as follows, because of the method it is strung the racquet had little or no power. If you could enter a tournament with such a racquet you would need about 10 to 12 racquets because strings would break easily and parts fly off every which way! Yes, parts fly off! The performance is geared towards excessive... I mean excessive spin. A topspin groundstroke is so outrageous that most backcourts are not deep enough, meaning you can top spin the ball right out of the court. For example, a topspin ball landing just 3 feet over your opponent’s net would easily carry deep to the baseline. The opponent is constantly hitting the ball above his head. Taking it on the rise is the only defense. In the hands of a skilled payer the racquet is devastating! The racquet sounds like your hitting the ball with a lampshade, a terrible sound. The spins generated by the spaghetti stringing are in such excess that it borders on comical. The racquet altered the game so severely it was outlawed immediately.

OK…so how would one string a spaghetti racquet? Well not having a picture I'll try to explain. I could still string one if I had too. The ingredients for the spaghetti stringing is as follows, (1) synthetic string, (2) gut string, and (3) tubing 1/16 diameter or the diameter slightly smaller than the gut string. The tubing should be split down the middle or slightly off set to one side. It’s the larger side you want to keep. Keep in mind this was done on a racquet back then had a small hitting face, so the pounds given would need to be adjusted. First string the horizontal strings or cross strings with synthetic at about 50 lbs. The vertical (longer or main ones) strings use the gut. Usually strung at around 35 lbs, very loose so the strings slide. Do not weave the gut strings. The gut string rest on the cross strings. The gut strings are on both sides of the racquet. By not weaving the strings the gut slides back in forth. The gut strings need to be tied together so they slide uniformily on the cross strings. Keep the space between each gut string of uniform width when tieing. The grummets themselves take a lot of abuse. At this point, the racquet is an awesome weapon! The sliding action violently grips the ball; whipping or wristy type stroke can enhance the action even further. But to be totally insane, remember that tubing, well split the tubing down the middle, and cut into one-inch sections. Now with glue place the one-inch pieces of tubing under the gut string, the gut string resting/glued into the tubing. Now the strings slide even easier across the synthetic cross strings. Those plastic pieces are called the spaghetti. There are other variations to this recipe but above is how it was done! And yes, spaghetti pieces will fly off now and then. Hope this helps. Email me if you have any questions. John

I copied a post from another forum above. $300 a racket and they keep coming back. I'll string them all day long. The only time consuming part is the knots.
 
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