Poly to lower launch angle

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
I'm looking for a poly for my PD 2018 with a lower launch angle than Hyper-G, but not one dead on power. Ideas? I'm thinking a round poly because any shaped poly tends to have a higher launch angle.
 

WarrenMP

Professional
Stringing crosses 2-4 pounds higher then the mains will lower launch angle
I agree with this. Launch angle is tricky. Hyper G is a livelier poly that results in greater spin and more power than your typical poly. To get a lower launch angle, you have to sacrifice spin. To make hyper G have less spin, you will need to make the crosses tighter or make the tension tighter. I don't know what tension you play at, but 3 to 5 lbs will do the trick where you can notice the change. The power shouldn't suffer too much since you are already playing with a powerful racquet.
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
I agree with this. Launch angle is tricky. Hyper G is a livelier poly that results in greater spin and more power than your typical poly. To get a lower launch angle, you have to sacrifice spin. To make hyper G have less spin, you will need to make the crosses tighter or make the tension tighter. I don't know what tension you play at, but 3 to 5 lbs will do the trick where you can notice the change. The power shouldn't suffer too much since you are already playing with a powerful racquet.

I currently do 48x46. You recommend 48x52?
 

WarrenMP

Professional
I currently do 48x46. You recommend 48x52?
Let's take the extreme of the change so it would be 53x51. You would notice a drop in power and the launch angle. It would be noticeable and most likely not what you are looking for. You have wiggle room with how you normally have it strung and testing out the impact on launch angle.

You can switch it to 46x48 or 48 overall. You won't notice the difference that greatly, but you will get a little lower launch angle compared toyour previous set up.

If you want to notice the difference the crosses play in your racquet. I would suggest 48x50.
 

jonestim

Hall of Fame
I was struggling with this as well. I play a Textreme Warrior and have been using both Hyper-G and Tour Bite in full beds, usually around 48 lbs. This weekend, after demoing some racquets with a lower launch angle, I decided to try Tour Bite 17 @ 55. It worked really well. Angles came down. I felt more confident swinging faster and my hitting partner said it was quite noticeable. Balls were going through the court more than sitting up.

Most of my previous racquets have been lower powered and I have always strung full poly between 40-52, depending on the frame. The only times I have gone higher than 52 were with OS frames (POG OS or Textreme 107), or with the Tour 100 ESP.
 

WarrenMP

Professional
I was struggling with this as well. I play a Textreme Warrior and have been using both Hyper-G and Tour Bite in full beds, usually around 48 lbs. This weekend, after demoing some racquets with a lower launch angle, I decided to try Tour Bite 17 @ 55. It worked really well. Angles came down. I felt more confident swinging faster and my hitting partner said it was quite noticeable. Balls were going through the court more than sitting up.

Most of my previous racquets have been lower powered and I have always strung full poly between 40-52, depending on the frame. The only times I have gone higher than 52 were with OS frames (POG OS or Textreme 107), or with the Tour 100 ESP.
The racquet plays the biggest part in launch angle. You can generalize that the more open the string pattern, the higher the trajectory. You have to deaden the the strings to get a lower launch angle.
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
True Tricky to tweak with..I am not a fan of tweaking tension pertaining to the launch angle.

In my world form and technique is the first place to go before equipment tweaks ; the face is king of height.
If you can learn to control the angle of the face, you can control the angle of the shot.


String Theory: Stringbeds, Tension, and Performance:
Stringbed stiffness—the combined measure of all factors, from string material to racquet stiffness, which affect the extent to which the strings deflect upon impacts—exerts a significant influence on a racquet's feel and performance. For example, decreasing the stringbed's stiffness (say, by dropping the strings' tension) will increase ball velocity and depth, not only because looser strings return more energy to the ball upon contact, but also because they increase the ball’s vertical launch angle off the stringbed.
Of course, for most players, there’s usually a price to pay for that extra power: A loss of control. Like a trampoline, lower tensions fundamentally increase “dwell time”—i.e., the length of time the ball stays on the strings upon impact. And added dwell time, in addition to increasing rebound velocity, decreases margin for error when timing the ball.
(Why? Because with longer dwell times, as Technical Tennis authors Rod Cross and Crawford Lindsey explain, “the ball will stay on the strings through a longer part of the arc of your swing both vertically and horizontally,” accentuating “the consequences of errors in the timing of your swing.”)
 

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
True Tricky to tweak with..I am not a fan of tweaking tension pertaining to the launch angle.

In my world form and technique is the first place to go before equipment tweaks ; the face is king of height.
If you can learn to control the angle of the face, you can control the angle of the shot.


String Theory: Stringbeds, Tension, and Performance:
Stringbed stiffness—the combined measure of all factors, from string material to racquet stiffness, which affect the extent to which the strings deflect upon impacts—exerts a significant influence on a racquet's feel and performance. For example, decreasing the stringbed's stiffness (say, by dropping the strings' tension) will increase ball velocity and depth, not only because looser strings return more energy to the ball upon contact, but also because they increase the ball’s vertical launch angle off the stringbed.
Of course, for most players, there’s usually a price to pay for that extra power: A loss of control. Like a trampoline, lower tensions fundamentally increase “dwell time”—i.e., the length of time the ball stays on the strings upon impact. And added dwell time, in addition to increasing rebound velocity, decreases margin for error when timing the ball.
(Why? Because with longer dwell times, as Technical Tennis authors Rod Cross and Crawford Lindsey explain, “the ball will stay on the strings through a longer part of the arc of your swing both vertically and horizontally,” accentuating “the consequences of errors in the timing of your swing.”)

Yes the the more closed the racquet face, the more swing energy is lost upwards and converted into topspin rather than drive. At some point it becomes counterproductive using that much energy just to keep the ball in play.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
I'm looking for a poly for my PD 2018 with a lower launch angle than Hyper-G, but not one dead on power. Ideas? I'm thinking a round poly because any shaped poly tends to have a higher launch angle.
You could also try some babalot electrocrosses. Like a full pack. Should help lower tbe Hyper-g
 
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