racquetTune 2.5 with stiffness and free string testing

Bartelby

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The Samsung Galaxy seems to be the only iphone beater, so is a Galaxy specific version possible? It simplifies the hardware issue and surely it can be sold for far more than the 2 dollars for the iphone app and have a huge audience.
 

Ramon

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And I also think your concerns about different manucafturers and needing multiple phones is not true. Android updates their OS faster and more frequetly than Apple, true, but an app that runs on say the current version of Android OS (Ice Cream Sandwhich) will run on phones from all manufatururs that run that OS. And it will continue to run on furture versions. Buy just ONE android phone to test it on. Get a used one on the cheap even. You'd have plenty of beta-test volounteers in these forums should you want to test across multiple phones.

That's a very big assumption. Sten specifically pointed out hardware and sound routines. Unlike most apps, RacquetTune is dependent on sound input and all the variables that go into it, like type of microphone and placement of it. Since he uses low level sound routines, it's conceivable that these routines will have unintended consequences on different hardware platforms.

Just suck it up and get an iPhone after the contract on your iPhone knock-off runs out. :)
 
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Ramon

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The Samsung Galaxy seems to be the only iphone beater, so is a Galaxy specific version possible? It simplifies the hardware issue and surely it can be sold for far more than the 2 dollars for the iphone app and have a huge audience.

I can already see all the hate mail coming from HTC and Motorola customers.
 

syke

Professional
The Samsung Galaxy seems to be the only iphone beater, so is a Galaxy specific version possible? It simplifies the hardware issue and surely it can be sold for far more than the 2 dollars for the iphone app and have a huge audience.

That will not stop the HTC, Motorola, LG & Sony users from downloading them. And if it doesn't work as advertised for those users, imagine all the bad rap the app gets.

By the way, the Apple app store generates 4 times more revenue than the android store. Apple users are just more willing to "spend" and that's more important than having more users.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Yes, very big ask to buy a smartphone for one app or on the basis of one app, and the galaxy is almost as big a seller as iphone so if non-galaxy people buy it and it doesn't work properly then they didn't read the sales blurb.
 
The tech geek in me just couldn't help it so I just got the app. I've been stringing my own racquets for a bit now and was curious.

Well now I am really confused. I have been playing poly in the mid 30 to 40 range. So setup my first racquet and started trying to test. Had trouble until the spoon. I set the low tension setting and kept getting good graphs but no result. So I changed to the NO low tension setting and started to get consistent readings and got 58.4- .6 consistently in lbs. whattttt???? This racquet was strung at 35lbs 2 weeks ago and had about 6 hours playtime What am I doing wrong or is this right. I am using a drop weight stringer and genesis twisted razor 16L string. I set frame to 100 and used generic poly 1.27.
Where am I going wrong ??? :shock:
 

Ramon

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The tech geek in me just couldn't help it so I just got the app. I've been stringing my own racquets for a bit now and was curious.

Well now I am really confused. I have been playing poly in the mid 30 to 40 range. So setup my first racquet and started trying to test. Had trouble until the spoon. I set the low tension setting and kept getting good graphs but no result. So I changed to the NO low tension setting and started to get consistent readings and got 58.4- .6 consistently in lbs. whattttt???? This racquet was strung at 35lbs 2 weeks ago and had about 6 hours playtime What am I doing wrong or is this right. I am using a drop weight stringer and genesis twisted razor 16L string. I set frame to 100 and used generic poly 1.27.
Where am I going wrong ??? :shock:

First, you should use the Low Tension setting. You might have to make several attempts. Also, since you have an irregularly shaped string, you'll have measure your own string factor to get anywhere close to actual tension. You can do that easily because you have a drop weight stringer. If you just want to use the app to measure % tension loss, you can use the default string factor knowing that your readings are only relative and not absolute.
 
First, you should use the Low Tension setting. You might have to make several attempts. Also, since you have an irregularly shaped string, you'll have measure your own string factor to get anywhere close to actual tension. You can do that easily because you have a drop weight stringer. If you just want to use the app to measure % tension loss, you can use the default string factor knowing that your readings are only relative and not absolute.


I have a klippermate with Non fixed clamps let me figure out how to hold other end??

I did use low tension setting but could not get 1 good reading even though it showed good graps or so it seemed.

Would be sweet if the app could start a database of string factors assisted by the users to collect the data. The database could be available online for searching and inputting to ones personal app. Just a thought as a developer myself.
 

Ramon

Legend
I have a klippermate with Non fixed clamps let me figure out how to hold other end??

I did use low tension setting but could not get 1 good reading even though it showed good graps or so it seemed.

Would be sweet if the app could start a database of string factors assisted by the users to collect the data. The database could be available online for searching and inputting to ones personal app. Just a thought as a developer myself.

Try mounting an unstrung racquet, insert a piece of string through one of the holes, put a floating clamp on the side of the string inside the frame, and pull tension. Measure the distance from the outside of the frame to the tensioner. I never tried it myself, but it seems to me that might work.

Certain poly strings are very tough to get a reading. I've experienced that before. I had one setup where I must have made over 50 attempts before getting a reading. I imagine yours must be one of the most difficult because of the irregular shape and the twist. Maybe it's just not possible or practical with your string.
 
Try mounting an unstrung racquet, insert a piece of string through one of the holes, put a floating clamp on the side of the string inside the frame, and pull tension. Measure the distance from the outside of the frame to the tensioner. I never tried it myself, but it seems to me that might work.

Certain poly strings are very tough to get a reading. I've experienced that before. I had one setup where I must have made over 50 attempts before getting a reading. I imagine yours must be one of the most difficult because of the irregular shape and the twist. Maybe it's just not possible or practical with your string.

Would getting the reading of the string make this better or even getting a string reading is difficult with these types ?
 
After 4 screw drivers, 6 spoons and 127 taps, 17 angles of the racquet and ipad i finally got my first reading. Was able to get 5 or 6 good ones at 25.7 lbs +\- I also did a string reference but not sure that made a huge difference. Regardless of the trouble I LOVE the app. I'm just a technical geekazoid so don't mind working to get good data. I'm gonna restring a racquet right now and see how it compares maybe fresh strings I'll get easier readings.

Is the difficultness more a cause of string type or low tension or both ??
 

Ramon

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After 4 screw drivers, 6 spoons and 127 taps, 17 angles of the racquet and ipad i finally got my first reading. Was able to get 5 or 6 good ones at 25.7 lbs +\- I also did a string reference but not sure that made a huge difference. Regardless of the trouble I LOVE the app. I'm just a technical geekazoid so don't mind working to get good data. I'm gonna restring a racquet right now and see how it compares maybe fresh strings I'll get easier readings.

Is the difficultness more a cause of string type or low tension or both ??

I admire your persistence! I went through some similar experiences. I haven't noticed any problems with the low tension setting, and I've measured MSV Focus Hex at the same tension you are using. The good news is that most strings are going to be much easier to measure than the one you are using. In my experience, the strings that are easiest to measure are uniform and consistent. It doesn't seem to have much to do with the type of string. For instance, Klip Legend gut was easy to measure. It is a quality gut that is uniform. Mamba Premium gut was difficult to measure, and it has an inconsistent gauge. Your string has 2 major things going against it: 1) it is shaped, and 2) it is twisted.
 
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