radical 260 mp or pro tour 280

m1stuhxsp4rk5

Professional
whats the difference between these two rackets in terms of playability, power, control, spin, and touch? im curious of how these two play on ground strokes, serves, volleys, and returns. any info would be very helpful. what strings play well on each racket. thanks for the help
 

m1stuhxsp4rk5

Professional
i did use the os of the radical 260 and i thought that was a great racket but im looking for something smaller and i always hear how great the pt 280 is. what do you guys think all you head pt 280 and radical 260 users think?
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
help from the radical and pt 280 gurus?
This racket is pretty damn muted in feel, and heavy, to say the least. The nBlade felt more maneuverable and more effortless, with more control and feel. Don't waste your time and money. Take it for what it's worth (I spent 225 on the PT630 and it was a total waste of time.)
 

Deuce

Banned
This racket is pretty damn muted in feel, and heavy, to say the least. The nBlade felt more maneuverable and more effortless, with more control and feel. Don't waste your time and money. Take it for what it's worth (I spent 225 on the PT630 and it was a total waste of time.)
Then again... The Pro Tour is one of the most well liked racquets among people who have been playing tennis for several years.
 

tandayu

Professional
This racket is pretty damn muted in feel, and heavy, to say the least. The nBlade felt more maneuverable and more effortless, with more control and feel. Don't waste your time and money. Take it for what it's worth (I spent 225 on the PT630 and it was a total waste of time.)

Well, yes the PT630/Pt280 feels mute and dead IF you swing it slow. However, it feels stiffer and more solid feel especially at the throat if you swing real hard at the ball. Probably the reason it is widely popular among the pros, good control and solid feel among others.

THe Rad tour260 MP feels noticable stiffer in comparison.
 

tandayu

Professional
whats the difference between these two rackets in terms of playability, power, control, spin, and touch? im curious of how these two play on ground strokes, serves, volleys, and returns. any info would be very helpful. what strings play well on each racket. thanks for the help

The rad tour MP260 is stiffer, and if you put full cap will make it more head heavy than the PT630.

I suggest you start with any prestige mid, because it requires you to execute the stroke correctly very demanding frame). As you progress achieving smooth and solid groundstrokes, then switch to PT630/280, and you will be easier gain more spin on serve and sharp crosscourt angle on the groundstrokes.

If you are 5.0 and above, the above statement does not apply.
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
Well, yes the PT630/Pt280 feels mute and dead IF you swing it slow. However, it feels stiffer and more solid feel especially at the throat if you swing real hard at the ball. Probably the reason it is widely popular among the pros, good control and solid feel among others.

THe Rad tour260 MP feels noticable stiffer in comparison.
I have a pretty fast swing speed, and I can tell you one thing about the racket, it does not feel crisp, ever. Soft, muted, and flexible are how I would describe it. Guess I'm just used to the feel of the POG and a few other Wilson frames.
 

tandayu

Professional
I have a pretty fast swing speed, and I can tell you one thing about the racket, it does not feel crisp, ever. Soft, muted, and flexible are how I would describe it. Guess I'm just used to the feel of the POG and a few other Wilson frames.

True, it is subjective factor, and the PT630 is not the best frame in the world for everybody.

I actually experienced same like you in the beginning, but it feels better as time progress.

There are many good fames in the market, so good for us with the myriad of options.
 

m1stuhxsp4rk5

Professional
my strokes are clean i can hit the sweetspot no problem. i used the prestige before and is a great racket but i sold it to one of my friends because he liked it to much. at the moment i use a pdr which is completely different from the pro tour 280. i did use it once awhile back and it felt pretty good. but it wasnt the cap version so im not sure how that plays compared to the uncap version. im wondering if this racket has alot of spin. i have an all around game but i do hit alot of spin to the backhand side of people on when im at the baseline.
 

m1stuhxsp4rk5

Professional
i do like a soft feel and with the string i use on my pdr it feel really soft but its solid as well. is the pt280 pretty solid on strokes?
 

m1stuhxsp4rk5

Professional
to alpinecadet

how does the pog play im considering the mid. im not a fan of oversize and i have good technique to use a mid so it should be a problem. i would like to know the characteristics of the racket on the different strokes, feel, and spin.
 

OnyxZ28

Hall of Fame
i do like a soft feel and with the string i use on my pdr it feel really soft but its solid as well. is the pt280 pretty solid on strokes?

If you think the PDR is "soft" then chances are the PT280 and PT630 will feel like noodles to you, they are night and day in terms of stiffness.
 

m1stuhxsp4rk5

Professional
haha i think the 260 feel really solid i think the cortex on the pdr dampens the feel and because my string loosened up on my racket the string bed is really soft i can really feel the ball get cupped
 

Ross K

Legend
PT - another dissenting voice (kind of)...

Interesting dialogue ^.

FWIW... I had problems with my serve being underpowered with the PT, and whilst the control was indeed exceptional, I wasn't killing off points quite as I'm capable. Furthermore, I experienced exactly the same syndrome with the i. Prestige. This rather major issue aside, I thought the feel and precision was absolutely a class apart. And as an interesting side-note... I also have experience of the Dunlop MW 200G (the rod that the PT is often likened to) and found it to possess exactly the right, slightly higher power level (just a few notches up from the PT) for me on serves, BUT... the feel wasn't my cup of tea.

Anyway. It's pretty rare to hear a dissenting voice as regards the PT. I was told that because I'm only an intermediate level that's why I wasn't getting much joy in the power dept. I didn't disagree. That said, I'm fairly certain there's a lot more who also haven't quite reached the stratospheric heights of tennis brilliance as befits the reputation of this legendary frame. Basically, I do feel with certain, often older player's frames (like say the PT or PS 85) or frames which are in vogue (like the MG Prestige Pro now) that people are reluctant to 'fess up' and admit they aren't actually playing such awesome tennis with these rods after-all.

BTW, I do acknowledge tandayu's wise words:
True, it is subjective factor, and the PT630 is not the best frame in the world for everybody.I actually experienced same like you in the beginning, but it feels better as time progress.

Just a few thoughts...
 

Ross K

Legend
Interesting dialogue ^.

FWIW... I had problems with my serve being underpowered with the PT, and whilst the control was indeed exceptional, I wasn't killing off points quite as I'm capable. Furthermore, I experienced exactly the same syndrome with the i. Prestige. This rather major issue aside, I thought the feel and precision was absolutely a class apart. And as an interesting side-note... I also have experience of the Dunlop MW 200G (the rod that the PT is often likened to) and found it to possess exactly the right, slightly higher power level (just a few notches up from the PT) for me on serves, BUT... the feel wasn't my cup of tea.

Anyway. It's pretty rare to hear a dissenting voice as regards the PT. I was told that because I'm only an intermediate level that's why I wasn't getting much joy in the power dept. I didn't disagree. That said, I'm fairly certain there's a lot more who also haven't quite reached the stratospheric heights of tennis brilliance as befits the reputation of this legendary frame. Basically, I do feel with certain, often older player's frames (like say the PT or PS 85) or frames which are in vogue (like the MG Prestige Pro now) that people are reluctant to 'fess up' and admit they aren't actually playing such awesome tennis with these rods after-all.

BTW, I do acknowledge tandayu's wise words:

Just a few thoughts...

SORRY... THE DIALOGUE I'M REFERRING TO IS THE ONE BETWEEN TANDAYU AND ALPINECADET...
 

AlpineCadet

Hall of Fame
how does the pog play im considering the mid. im not a fan of oversize and i have good technique to use a mid so it should be a problem. i would like to know the characteristics of the racket on the different strokes, feel, and spin.
They're pretty different from each other. One is stiff, pretty HL, has an open string pattern, with a lively string bed, while the other is very flexible, feels HH even though it's HL, has a dense string pattern, and has a soft/muted feel.
 
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