Sitter forehand videos

Dbrizz

Rookie
Does anyone have any videos of atp / wta hitting mid court high bouncing balls for winners or approach shots? The ones that you earn after a good rally. Something between service line and baseline. Typically that bounce up to your head or higher but not quite overhead high.
 

mcs1970

Hall of Fame
Does anyone have any videos of atp / wta hitting mid court high bouncing balls for winners or approach shots? The ones that you earn after a good rally. Something between service line and baseline. Typically that bounce up to your head or higher but not quite overhead high.

Isn’t a sitter something that is not bouncing up to your head? If you are earning a ball bouncing upto your head between the service line and baseline, IMO you have more work to do in the rally.
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
Thanks. He sees that ball early and jumps on it. That one was a bit shorter. I’m thinking of those higher bail out topspin balls they will put up when they are in trouble. In between service line and baseline. I guess they would just hit a swinging volley rather than let it bounce and have point reset.
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
Seems like he takes these closed stance rather than open stance. Guessing it’s easier to time closer than waiting to launch into the ball open?
 

Jonesy

Legend
Seems like he takes these closed stance rather than open stance. Guessing it’s easier to time closer than waiting to launch into the ball open?
Don't see a problem going open stance as long as you are carrying the momentum of your body into the shot.
 

Dbrizz

Rookie
Don't see a problem going open stance as long as you are carrying the momentum of your body into the shot by moving forward.
Good point I feel like I don’t do that enough. I go open and almost pull sideways too much.
 

Jonesy

Legend
Good point I feel like I don’t do that enough. I go open and almost pull sideways too much.
I feel this shot is one of the game changers to master in tennis because it makes you engage your body for more energy and stability. So if i manage to replicate the same feel on the baseline i know the FHs will be good.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
Not exactly your scenario but similar. How do you handle shoulder high forehands in general? ( assuming you don’t want to take it on the rise or back paddle or you simply don’t have time for either)
I spent at least 5 hours with a coach to practice this shot.
There’s only one way to do it. A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action across the ball from right to left. Watch at 0.25 speed to pay attention to the swing path.


 

user92626

G.O.A.T.
Not exactly your scenario but similar. How do you handle shoulder high forehands in general? ( assuming you don’t want to take it on the rise or back paddle or you simply don’t have time for either)
I spent at least 5 hours with a coach to practice this shot.
There’s only one way to do it. A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action across the ball from right to left. Watch at 0.25 speed to pay attention to the swing path.
Probably your coach only wanted to keep it simple for you. Told you only one way.

You can swing 10 different ways if you understand top spin and the swing.
 

user92626

G.O.A.T.
Now watched the video. Yes, it’s shoulder high contact and he’s hitting as I described it!
No. You described " A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action"

The vid I post... very much low-to-high imparting a lot of topspin. Your swing is flat.

It's ok if you can't / don't see that. We are not the same level on many things including observational skill. :)
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action
Yes, that’s exactly what he does. Watch the swing again at 0.25 speed and check the racket head path through contact. If your eyesight is fine you’ll see there’s no low to high movement of the racket head there.
 

McGradey

Hall of Fame

The key with a higher contact point is you have to stay further away from the ball than you do on a lower contact point between your waist and shoulder. I did some work on this shot with a coach for several sessions and still find it difficult to do well. Very easy to get yourself jammed up.
 

zill

Legend
Not exactly your scenario but similar. How do you handle shoulder high forehands in general? ( assuming you don’t want to take it on the rise or back paddle or you simply don’t have time for either)
I spent at least 5 hours with a coach to practice this shot.
There’s only one way to do it. A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action across the ball from right to left. Watch at 0.25 speed to pay attention to the swing path.



You have a new coach now?
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
Not exactly your scenario but similar. How do you handle shoulder high forehands in general? ( assuming you don’t want to take it on the rise or back paddle or you simply don’t have time for either)
I spent at least 5 hours with a coach to practice this shot.
There’s only one way to do it. A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action across the ball from right to left. Watch at 0.25 speed to pay attention to the swing path.


@Curious is there a reason why are you hitting open stands FH on neutral balls ?
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
@Curious is there a reason why are you hitting open stands FH on neutral balls ?
Yes, I was actually going to add that. For those high forehands the coach recommends open or semi open stance, because of the same reason: it’s easier to rotate and swing horizontally that way.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
When I hit a shoulder-high FH off a short ball, I can hit it DTL or inside-out somewhat flat without missing, but when I hit it crosscourt it is a shorter angle with less court to work with and I need to put more topspin to keep it from going into the alley. So my swing path changes to finish higher and add more topspin on the crosscourt balls.

From the baseline, I always hit with a lot of topspin on shoulder high balls (if I can’t make it further back in time) irrespective of direction, but often end up with a reverse finish as I try to finish higher than the contact point.
 
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Jonesy

Legend
Not exactly your scenario but similar. How do you handle shoulder high forehands in general? ( assuming you don’t want to take it on the rise or back paddle or you simply don’t have time for either)
I spent at least 5 hours with a coach to practice this shot.
There’s only one way to do it. A level swing through contact , in other words a horizontal swiping action across the ball from right to left. Watch at 0.25 speed to pay attention to the swing path.


Looks like a bail out slap shot. Why do you need such a high risk shot at low rec level? At least add some TS ffs.
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
Yes, I was actually going to add that. For those high forehands the coach recommends open or semi open stance, because of the same reason: it’s easier to rotate and swing horizontally that way.
Not sure I agree, seems a little odd to run up to a high sitter and hit with open stands.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
According to my coach a player at any level will always get caught and have to hit shoulder high groundstrokes and it’s a very important skill to be able to hit those shots. As these balls land steeply they also bounce steeply so taking them on the rise is like a half volley hence a risky one. Back paddling to hit on descend pushes you far back into a defensive position. That’s why being able to hit them at shoulder height is an important skill. Open stance enables you to go both cross court and down the line equally easily. Closed stance somewhat locks your hips and makes cross court option more difficult.
 

Happi

Hall of Fame
According to my coach a player at any level will always get caught and have to hit shoulder high groundstrokes and it’s a very important skill to be able to hit those shots. As these balls land steeply they also bounce steeply so taking them on the rise is like a half volley hence a risky one. Back paddling to hit on descend pushes you far back into a defensive position. That’s why being able to hit them at shoulder height is an important skill. Open stance enables you to go both cross court and down the line equally easily. Closed stance somewhat locks your hips and makes cross court option more difficult.
For the last few years high bouncing shots FH and BH has very much been a natural part of my training with my coach. I can hit them in my sleep, and its a favorite stroke of mine, esp inside out high FH. Anyway to me its a easy shot, but I see lots of players struggeling with it and complicating the shot, just like in this thread.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
For the last few years high bouncing shots FH and BH has very much been a natural part of my training with my coach. I can hit them in my sleep, and its a favorite stroke of mine, esp inside out high FH. Anyway to me its an easy shot, but I see lots of players struggeling with it and complicating the shot, just like in this thread.
Once you know how to do it and put in enough practice yes it’s not that hard.
 

Jonesy

Legend
If you think I’m hitting those balls flat you’re missing a big point!
What is the point? That you will miss a shot like that 9 out of 10 during a match? If that is all the TS that you can get then just slice the FH all the time that you will win more points. Like this you are giving the match to your opponent for free.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
What is the point? That you will miss a shot like that 9 out of 10 during a match? If that is all the TS that you can get then just slice the FH all the time that you will win more points. Like this you are giving the match to your opponent for free.
Well, I think I’ve said enough. The rest is up to you and whoever else reads.
 

Dragy

Legend
For the last few years high bouncing shots FH and BH has very much been a natural part of my training with my coach. I can hit them in my sleep, and its a favorite stroke of mine, esp inside out high FH. Anyway to me its a easy shot, but I see lots of players struggeling with it and complicating the shot, just like in this thread.
Do you mean high bunts, or high-bouncing topspin shots? The latter tend to penetrate after bounce, and taking them at the side in neutral stance kind of makes it tougher compared to meeting them more in-front with semi-open stance, shifting forward+away and fading them - namely, inside-out. Would you agree?
 
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