The Kyrgios myth is over, no longer the "talent" people thought he was.... his best couldn't even push a 35-year-old baseliner to 5 sets on grass!
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
He's only good for an upset when he catches someone out-of-form in early rounds.
And it was really more like a straight sets loss, because we know Djokovic is a slow starter....
Kyrgios is just another Raonic or Berrettini
Actually I think Berrettini has more potential than Kyrgios, so we'll see.
Hilarious reading these posts by 3.0 weekend warriors about professional players not having talent.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Yeah that didn't bode well. He's better when he's pissed off and doesn't give a f.
GoldenSwing
Rookie
I thought Nick served incredibly well on Grass and played the baseline points more consistent than he usually does from matches that I've seen him play.
Novak's ROS was on fire today and he was able to reach for balls that should've been aces.
No disrespect to Nick, I think he played at a satisfied level today, but Novak's Return of Serve and Serving combo is too much to handle in a Wimbledon Final. Novak won all the crucial points as he usually does.
Novak's ROS was on fire today and he was able to reach for balls that should've been aces.
No disrespect to Nick, I think he played at a satisfied level today, but Novak's Return of Serve and Serving combo is too much to handle in a Wimbledon Final. Novak won all the crucial points as he usually does.
Spencer Gore
Legend
Kyrgios hit the ceiling he always hits. Lost his mind and gave up for a bit. Which cost him the match. He just doesn't have enough tennis intelligence to find a way to win even when the demons are visiting him.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
So Nadal defeated Egg in the final?
TennisTurkey
Rookie
Kevin Anderson (who made two slam finals) after a lobotomy.
djokovic is not your average 35 year old baseliner. and it was a tense match till djokovic run 6-1 away in the 4th set tiebreak. nick was 2 points on djokovic serve to reach a 5th set. he also had 4 break points to break back in the second set, when djokovic served for it. he played well, served great, but djokovic is djokovic.
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Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
don’t take the wrong way but, I would rather be my tortured Spurs supporting self 100 times out of 100 instead of a glory hunting supporter of an evil owner and financially doped club like Chelsea
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Kyrgios peaked at 19, his sensational match against Nadal in the fourth round of Wimbledon 2014, was his best performance ever in GS tournaments in his entire career.
His serve is underrated. His return was phenomenal. Kyrgios needed to serve volley more (we all know Novaks no mug on the pass of course) often, he missed one volley and had another ball put at his feet at 40/15 and stopped doing it. The number of times the return was so deep he actually had to move backward to respond to the return of his 1st serve was incredible.
Fabresque
Legend
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
I’m just salty over 2012 when you won CL and somehow knocked us out of 4th lolChampions of Europe, we know what we are…
2x pal
Fabresque
Legend
Always irked when people say 2021 was a fluke win. We were dominating them teams in the KO’s.
But yeah 2012 was just one of those star alignment runs, were the worst team in every match (bar Benfica) and somehow won LOL.
Sorry you support Spurs mate, must be tough.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Makes you really nostalgic compared to today's mess
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Not hilarious at all. Kyrgios is being judged against pros not against the people who comment on tennis forums. The fact that we are not pros doesn't disqualify us from seeing the weaknesses in pros. On your premise, no pro can be criticised in any genre except by other pros in that genre.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Who beat Rafa at Wimbledon 2022?
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
As I've said before, that win over Rafa in 2014 ws the death knell for Kyrgios's career. His brother wrote him a letter before Wimbledon, acknowledging that that win messed him up and he wasn't a joy to be around but he is finally becoming the brother he had.Kyrgios peaked at 19, his sensational match against Nadal in the fourth round of Wimbledon 2014, was his best performance ever in GS tournaments in his entire career.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Not many players are capable of reaching for another tool from their tool box like the Big 3 can. Kyrgios can't just decide to S&V and be succesful at it.
ForumMember
Hall of Fame
This is what happens when you are not match-hardened and not used to the grind it takes to be a champion.
Though I was rooting for Kyrgios to win as my love for Nadal is more than the dislike for Kyrgios, but I would say if he had won it would have been very unfair to players who put heart and soul in the game. Djokovic is a champ who worked so hard and have been so committed to be at the place where he is. He losing to some talented guy who doesn't even have necessary respect for Tennis would have been so bad for Tennis.
Though I was rooting for Kyrgios to win as my love for Nadal is more than the dislike for Kyrgios, but I would say if he had won it would have been very unfair to players who put heart and soul in the game. Djokovic is a champ who worked so hard and have been so committed to be at the place where he is. He losing to some talented guy who doesn't even have necessary respect for Tennis would have been so bad for Tennis.
For all I understand tennis this run to finals will make Kyrgios realise his potential and shortcomings more. It was visible in his eyes when he faced a wall which refused to break down that there is a level of play that he doesn't possess and I am sure Nick will try from here to be a great tennis player. The look while sitting during the presentation ceremony was telling. You can't be sending report cards of a player who just did the best so far in his career.
Candide
Hall of Fame
Now to be fair, Wayne Carey (washed up Australian Rules Football great and general knuckle dragger) is a monumental moron. But bizarrely it feels like he's absolutely nailed it with this call. This is the key line,
“If you see his genetic God-given talent — he hasn’t in my view been prepared to give everything and dedicate himself and let himself be emotionally vulnerable. That’s the piece I don’t like about him. I don’t think he lets himself be emotionally brave [enough] to be devastated.”
‘Disappointed’ AFL legend Wayne Carey calls out Nick Kyrgios lie
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tenni...e/news-story/7c88599dea34ecac3fc7ea2614305648
“If you see his genetic God-given talent — he hasn’t in my view been prepared to give everything and dedicate himself and let himself be emotionally vulnerable. That’s the piece I don’t like about him. I don’t think he lets himself be emotionally brave [enough] to be devastated.”
‘Disappointed’ AFL legend Wayne Carey calls out Nick Kyrgios lie
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tenni...e/news-story/7c88599dea34ecac3fc7ea2614305648
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CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
I think you’ve had enough white wine spritzers for today…
TennisTurkey
Rookie
Yeah, I don't get why people were saying this version of Novak was dimished. First serve was good after a slow start, return incredible, very solid from the baseline and hit with progressively more power while mixing in good drop shots as the match went on.
It's not like anyone is going to just breadstick and bagel a server like Kyrgios on grass.
Billy T James
New User
Nick won a set against one of the greatest ever player's but hey let's all bag him just for the hell of it.
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
I disagree with you, the other young players who have been trying all along did worse than him on important points.
Rorano_Fedalovic
Semi-Pro
ah yes, my recent fav poster who uses emojis like a 12 yeard old.
Nick is better at tennis than you are at teh internets, OP.
Nick is better at tennis than you are at teh internets, OP.
Street
Semi-Pro
Djokovic's serve was pretty shaky in the finals. Kyrgios could have done better on returns imo. Still, it was a good showing.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Judged against other pros he is way above average talent. Every player talks about his talent, from Fed to Mcenroe there are quotes everywhere, and its easy to see without everyone's accolades.
My comment about 3.0s disparaging him is that they are average to below average players who dont even know what they dont know. They think its easy to just hit a 130 2nd serve on the line because they are a ''servebot'', or hit a tweener winner because he's just a ''clown''. These same players have probably never even had their serve or spin rate clocked and if they even tried a tweener they'd rack themselves and never try it again. It takes practice and skill to do these things which, the higher up you go in the sport, you recognize more and more. No 5.0 players I hit with call him a clown or various things I read here because they appreciate the difficulty. What they say, (and I say this myself) is that his work ethic and focus is very poor, to put it lightly. If he got more serious, got a good coach and trainer, etc he could easily be in more slam finals.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Yeah, it is a shame when all we have is the - look at how it used to be. But I'm still in the optimistic/delusional pre-season stage.Makes you really nostalgic compared to today's mess
Hearing there is a dinner at Barcelona tonight. Yes, more speculation haha We shall see.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
He couldn’t take a game from Kyrgios.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
And Kyrgios couldn't take a game off him.
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Herald
Guest
Kyrgios' talent was always overrated. The man nudged his backhand and had some highlight reel worthy shots, but that's hardly impressive in an era of poly and mediocrity. His appeal was always the X-factor and gutsiness, both of which he left at home during the final.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Beating Rafa under any circumstances is the benchmark for talent in men's tennis. Kyrgios was put on a pedestal the second the umpire said game, set and match Kyrgios against Rafa in Wimbledon 2014. He believed he had got to the pinnacle of the sport by doing that so rather than build on it he decided he'd arrived and bought into the hype. It's the greatest thing he's ever achieved in his life and it's halted his progress. His brother acknowledged this in a letter he wrote to Nick just before Wimbledon.
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Deleted member 791948
Guest
Kyrgios has lost 5 tiebreakers in a row to Nadal, including 2 at AO 2020, and 2 at Wimbledon 2019
Permitlady
Professional
Kyrgios really took the steam out of the finals with the bromance schtick
Fedeonic
Hall of Fame
Reading comprehension has just died.Kyrgios has lost 5 tiebreakers in a row to Nadal, including 2 at AO 2020, and 2 at Wimbledon 2019
The problem with English is that Spanish complex verb conjugations are lost. If you understand Spanish, here it goes:
"Sin embargo, yo sí creo que NK podría haber ganado el título si enfrentaba a uno del Little Three o a Carlitos, su servicio es tan dominante en césped que pudiera haber ganado el torneo en los tiebreaks"
What I was trying to say is that Djoks and Neds can and will break down Kyrgios' null baseline game in any moment over a 5-setter in Wimbledon just by putting serves back on play, something I struggle to see the Little Three (Zed, Med, Stef) and Carlitos. Case in point, just rewatch the 3R match between Stefanos.