Users of Ashaway Monogut: Stringing advice

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
For those of you that have played with Ashaway Monogut, I have just purchased a set of the stuff and i'm looking for some advice on how to string it up.

Ideally i'm looking for those of you who have played monogut, AND have tried perfomance poly-based strings such as lux timo/alu, signum poly pro etc.

My question is, do you prefer monogut in a hybrid with a syn gut cross, or do you prefer a full job?

As an aside: I prefer lux strings full jobbed rather than in a hybrid, how similar is monogut to a luxilon type string? It looks pretty darn similar, but i wont' make any assumptions. Does it play more like a lux string than a basic poly string? I play basic polys in a hybrid and performance polys in full jobs, which is why i'm asking for your advice here. I only have one set, so i can either turn it into two hybrids, but if the performance is similar to a lux string/job then i will try it in a full job. It's darn cheap, but i'd still like to get some input.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. If you've only played with the string one way, i'd still value your comparisons to other strings.
 

steve s

Professional
I like Monogut, its not as stiff as most polys. I would not call it a soft poly however. Timo was too harsh for me. Monogut lost tension after 2-3 weeks, but for $4 so what.

I only use hybrids, so I can't comment on all poly string job.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
steve s said:
I like Monogut, its not as stiff as most polys. I would not call it a soft poly however. Timo was too harsh for me. Monogut lost tension after 2-3 weeks, but for $4 so what.

I only use hybrids, so I can't comment on all poly string job.

Thanks for the comments. Would you say it's more similar to the lux style strings or more similar to a basic poly?
 

ragnaROK

Professional
I liked ALU as a full job but not Monogut. Use something softer in the crosses. I found Monogut really stiffened up the upper hoop of the racket right after stringing.
 

ragnaROK

Professional
You mean the kevlar used the in Crossfire, Prince?

The monogut lost tension pretty fast but before it went totally dead, it softened up a little and for about 3 hrs I was hitting with deadly accuracy. I used the 17 g and it had pretty good spin potential. It's not as harsh and dead as kevlar was.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
ragnaROK said:
I liked ALU as a full job but not Monogut. Use something softer in the crosses. I found Monogut really stiffened up the upper hoop of the racket right after stringing.

thanks for the feedback. How would you compare monogut to a basic poly string? I'm tempted to just string it up full just to see... but it sounds like it might suck :p
 

ragnaROK

Professional
Diredesire: There really isnt anything to compare to a basic poly string because that actually what it feels like. But I tell you, I feels much better than a string like Polylon or Ballistic Polymono. With those strings I feel like I'm just hitting with a board wheras Monogut is better in that aspect.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
ragnaROK said:
Diredesire: There really isnt anything to compare to a basic poly string because that actually what it feels like. But I tell you, I feels much better than a string like Polylon or Ballistic Polymono. With those strings I feel like I'm just hitting with a board wheras Monogut is better in that aspect.

hmmm, thanks then. I guess i'll try both when i get a chance. I'll use this set and hybrid it up.
 
I really liked Monogut for the whole string bed. Haven't tried a hybrid. It will lose tension, but plays very well. I like it better than ALU, and as well as TiMo.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
K. Wilson Moose said:
I really liked Monogut for the whole string bed. Haven't tried a hybrid. It will lose tension, but plays very well. I like it better than ALU, and as well as TiMo.

ah, i've the honor of having a great personality post in my thread ;)

Hmmm... If you liked it more than Alu and TiMo, then i really should give it a shot. Care to specify what about the job was better? i assume comfort?

Would you categorize this string as a lux killer?

You can reply in terms of: Spin, power, control, durability, tension holding etc, to give you a few ideas.

I'm just trying to get a good "read" (pardon the pun) on what the string plays like so i don't waste a pack :(

To be honest, i was hoping someone would say they like it in a full job, i'm kind of biased towards full jobs and "performance polys"
 

pro_staff

Semi-Pro
i ordered 3 packs of monogut tonight and was too wondering how it plays compared to other polys. im planning to hybrid it with forten sweet. im looking for something that's spin-friendly and offers control.
 
I tried monogut and did not like it at all. I have been using Lux ALU for 3 years now and mostly use a full ALU job. Have tried NG in either mains or crosses with ALU but did not like it (too much spring). Monogut did not hold tension well and when you went up to over 60lbs it seemed to lose it even faster (i.e. in 24 hours). For those who like their poly in the low 50's might not be as much of an issue, but I use 63/60 with ALU and mono lost it before I played on the three times I have strung it. I did use it at 50lbs on my son's junior racquet and just told him that it was LUX ALU. He did not complain (he is 10 years old) and went out and won his next tournament. He says he likes Mono more than NG or Prince w/duraflex. However, I think for now given his age and development I will have him stick with the Prince to avoid any problems.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
tarheelbornjohn said:
I tried monogut and did not like it at all. I have been using Lux ALU for 3 years now and mostly use a full ALU job. Have tried NG in either mains or crosses with ALU but did not like it (too much spring). Monogut did not hold tension well and when you went up to over 60lbs it seemed to lose it even faster (i.e. in 24 hours). For those who like their poly in the low 50's might not be as much of an issue, but I use 63/60 with ALU and mono lost it before I played on the three times I have strung it. I did use it at 50lbs on my son's junior racquet and just told him that it was LUX ALU. He did not complain (he is 10 years old) and went out and won his next tournament. He says he likes Mono more than NG or Prince w/duraflex. However, I think for now given his age and development I will have him stick with the Prince to avoid any problems.

argh, so many different opinions. Thanks for the feedback, though. You seem to string at around the same tension i do, i typically string a straight 63 on my frames. I don't mind the tension loss too much, as i am not too picky. Unless the string characteristics change drastically over the time period, of course. Just out of curiosity, what frame are you stringing in?

Edit: never mind, i see your sig. I see why you string your crosses a little looser, the racquet is very oval/oblong :)
 
diredesire said:
ah, i've the honor of having a great personality post in my thread ;)

Hmmm... If you liked it more than Alu and TiMo, then i really should give it a shot. Care to specify what about the job was better? i assume comfort?

Would you categorize this string as a lux killer?

You can reply in terms of: Spin, power, control, durability, tension holding etc, to give you a few ideas.

I'm just trying to get a good "read" (pardon the pun) on what the string plays like so i don't waste a pack :(

To be honest, i was hoping someone would say they like it in a full job, i'm kind of biased towards full jobs and "performance polys"

I strung it at 55lbs which is approximately 10% lower than my usual 61lbs. It plays great and lost tension no more than the much more expensive ALU in my experience. Also, I think it plays a little crisper and more spin friendly than ALU and did not bother my joints. TiMo is crisper and bitier, but Monogut is an exellent compromise at a great price between ALU and TiMo.

For a hybrid, I think pro_staff's suggestion of Forten Sweet 17 in the crosses is excellent.

Hope this helps.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
K. Wilson Moose said:
I strung it at 55lbs which is approximately 10% lower than my usual 61lbs. It plays great and lost tension no more than the much more expensive ALU in my experience. Also, I think it plays a little crisper and more spin friendly than ALU and did not bother my joints. TiMo is crisper and bitier, but Monogut is an exellent compromise at a great price between ALU and TiMo.

For a hybrid, I think pro_staff's suggestion of Forten Sweet 17 in the crosses is excellent.

Hope this helps.

excellent. This is just what i want to hear :)
 

kreative

Hall of Fame
I also feel that monogut plays sorta between ALU and TIMO. I prefer poly hybrids over full jobs, whether it be ALU, TIMO, Ace, or Monogut. Full poly just feels too stiff to me. I haven't had any arm problems using poly except TIMO, where I started to feel some soreness after extended play. I string between 56-60 lbs in a Babolat Pure Drive.

Prince, Crossfire (kevlar) mains, and Monogut crosses would have a dead feeling...btw, what did your arm do to you that you have to torture it so? =) Crossfire (kevlar mains/syn gut crosses) feels much better to me than the kevlar/poly combo.
 

pro_staff

Semi-Pro
how is monogut comfort wise? i always string polys (rab monoflex, enduro tour, polyion) at 63, the same tension as syn gut. can i do the same with monogut or will it be too stiff?
 
pro_staff said:
how is monogut comfort wise? i always string polys (rab monoflex, enduro tour, polyion) at 63, the same tension as syn gut. can i do the same with monogut or will it be too stiff?

I can't answer this one, as I string it at 55lbs, 10% less than my usual tension. This is recommended by Ashaway.

tarheel's comments seem to indicate that it doesn't perform as well at higher tensions.
 
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