Wilson Profile Question

C

Chopin

Hall of Fame
Hi All,

I have a Wilson Profile 110 frame and I have a few questions about it.

1) What is the model number? 2.7? The racquet itself lists no model number, merely saying "PROFILE" and U.S. Patent No. 4,664, 380. The string pattern is 16 x 20.

2) Where was this racquet made? It says it was deigned and engineered with Siegfried Kuebler of West Germany. I've heard reports saying that the original Profile was manufactured in St. Vincent for a period of time, later switching over to Taiwan. Anyone know for sure?

3) Finally, I'm interested in replacing the grommets on this racquet. Do I look for the 2.7 grommets, or a different model?

Best,
Chopin
 
L

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Thousands sold in California in the mid '90's.
A great racket for the slow swinger who wants power at any cost.
A horrid racket for anyone with a fast swing.
Sorry, I never cared where they were made, grommets would be for a discontinued 20 year old racket, and 2.7 refers to Wilson's stiffness index at the time. A ProStaff, considered the premier player's racket of the time, for Pro level players, was rated 6.0 and 6.1.
2.7 was a string eating stiff as can be racket.
 
vsbabolat

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
The early racquets that were gold with only Profile written on the frame were made in St. Vincent. The silver 3.6 Profile was Made in Taiwan.
 
C

Chopin

Hall of Fame
LeeD said:
Thousands sold in California in the mid '90's.
A great racket for the slow swinger who wants power at any cost.
A horrid racket for anyone with a fast swing.
Sorry, I never cared where they were made, grommets would be for a discontinued 20 year old racket, and 2.7 refers to Wilson's stiffness index at the time. A ProStaff, considered the premier player's racket of the time, for Pro level players, was rated 6.0 and 6.1.
2.7 was a string eating stiff as can be racket.
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The Williams sisters actually used this racquet for a period of time growing up, interestingly enough.

I hit with it the other day actually; it's powerful, but fun to play with. I'm going to order the grommets for it, put a new grip on it, get it re-strung and try to restore it to its former glory.
 
L

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Cool!
My tennis bud in the mid '90's, a former TeamYamaha OpenPro (AMA District 37, LA CrossCountry) rider used that racket for years.
We had epic arguments over which racket was better, his stiffys or my ChangExtendeds.
I had more tennis experience, so would win almost every set we played, but he could hit many more winners with little swing, little effort, and it took him up to 4.0 levels in 5 years.
 
C

Chopin

Hall of Fame
vsbabolat said:
The early racquets that were gold with only Profile written on the frame were made in St. Vincent. The silver 3.6 Profile was Made in Taiwan.
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My racquet is silver with white writing that only says PROFILE. Does that mean that it's the 3.6?
 
P

Praetorian

Professional
You probably have yourself the original profile. Subsequent generations had the 2.7, 3.6, 4.0 etc swing index, though I never really understood what that meant. Those things were beasts. I remember I served a ball where it literally left a 1ft skid mark on the service line (landed in the service box, skidded across the line, and finally bounced back up) :) We all had a nice chuckle
 
L

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Almost every player I say that used the 2.6-2.7 Profiles hit serves with backspin when they went for fast serves. Backspin skids.
 
S

saigonbond

Guest
The Boomstick...

*Orig. Kuebler Profile (5/12/87, St. Vincent) became Wilson Profile 2.7si
(sold patent to Wilson, China/Taiwan).
  • Head 110
  • Weight 359
  • Balance 330
  • Swingweight 357
  • Length 27
  • Flex 74
  • Beams 28/33/39/28
  • Pattern 16x20
*"si" = stiffness index

*Patent info:
http://innovation.hoover.org/media/file/ppl/Athletic Alternatives v Prince Patent 4664380.pdf

*Pics:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/kgrhqzkwe2jofkhe2bnlews.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/wilsonprofile.jpg/

"Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?"
-Ash
 
McLovin

McLovin

Legend
My father still has 2 of these (the originals), except one of them has the grommets pulling through the frame.

Praetorian said:
Subsequent generations had the 2.7, 3.6, 4.0 etc swing index, though I never really understood what that meant.
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I believe the number (2.7, 3.6, etc.) referred to the number of millimeters the racket flexed when a certain amount of weight was hung from the top of the hoop. In other words, imagine the handle being placed in a vise, parallel to the ground, then hang a weight (1kg maybe?) from the top of the hoop and measure the deflection. This is why 2.7 is stiffer than 6.1.
 
Don't Let It Bounce

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
These appeared in either '87 or '88 and sold so many truckloads in the late 80's that everyone had to have a version of it (like the Pure Drive now). Wilson's patent specified a dual-taper design, so other companies tried to compete legally by offering different tapers (Prince's baseball-bat Constant Taper System for widebodies like the Thunderstick, Head's thick-thin-thick widebody design, etc).

By the early 90's, the aforementioned 2.7 and 3.6 had morphed into the head-heavy, lightweight Profile Hammer and the Profile 3.0, the gorgeous metallic green and purple love-child of the 2.7 and 3.6. By 1993 the 3.0 was discontinued, and that was it for Profiles, though its spinoff, now called the Hammer 2.7, was still rocking into the mid-90's.

Are we sure about the RA 74? I would have thought ~84 for those.
 
esgee48

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Good luck finding grommets for it. Might have to try the auction sites, ask Wilson, or this forum's FS section. The racquets have been discontinued for a very long time.
 
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