johnny ballgame
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and everyone else below #73. Take care of business, DY!
The Donald needs to get over to Europe. There are some big challengers over there right now that he could be playing. Or trying to qualify for the ATP events. I hope he doesn't just hang out in the states until the FO. That would be a serious waste.
He should should try to qualify for the main events - that would be the best use of his time.
Actually looking at the main draw there are guys ranked much lower then him that are getting direct entries.
Because of the time lag. I think entry is based on your ranking about six weeks before the actual event?
no offense but what has he even done? Though I'm not ranked higher than Safin or Clement, I don't consider much of an accomplishment these days...
Safin has 2 Slams. He's already taken care of his business. The rest is icing on the cake.
The sad thing is, he should have won a lot more....
Yes but Gulbis and Del Potro are his age and have been highly touted. So being ranked above them gives Donald Young some legitimacy that he desperately needed.
true but look at what gulbis and del potro have accomplished. gulbis has been to the 4th round of the us open (and he actually won all of the matches as opposed to young's win over guccione and gasquet's withdrawal) and has been ranked as high as #46. he has also had wins over robredo (absolutely crushed him at the us open), tojo, starace, henman, hrbaty, berrer, and massu. he also took nalbandian and davydenko to the max losing to both in a third set breaker at indian wells and miami.
del potro has been ranked as high as #44 and has wins over robredo, lopez, tsonga, canas, moya, verdasco, chela, kohlschreiber, melzer, baghdatis, youzhny, monaco, and mathieu.
being around the same age, young has achieved a career high of #73 and has only won 7 tour matches as opposed to del potro's 40 and gulbis' 19. his only big time win came over lopez earlier this year. it just seems that he is being quickly surpassed by all of the kids who had less hype surrounding them when they were as young as he was and are now producing some very solid results.
true but look at what gulbis and del potro have accomplished. gulbis has been to the 4th round of the us open (and he actually won all of the matches as opposed to young's win over guccione and gasquet's withdrawal) and has been ranked as high as #46. he has also had wins over robredo (absolutely crushed him at the us open), tojo, starace, henman, hrbaty, berrer, and massu. he also took nalbandian and davydenko to the max losing to both in a third set breaker at indian wells and miami.
del potro has been ranked as high as #44 and has wins over robredo, lopez, tsonga, canas, moya, verdasco, chela, kohlschreiber, melzer, baghdatis, youzhny, monaco, and mathieu.
being around the same age, young has achieved a career high of #73 and has only won 7 tour matches as opposed to del potro's 40 and gulbis' 19. his only big time win came over lopez earlier this year. it just seems that he is being quickly surpassed by all of the kids who had less hype surrounding them when they were as young as he was and are now producing some very solid results.
true but look at what gulbis and del potro have accomplished...
being around the same age, young has achieved a career high of #73 and has only won 7 tour matches as opposed to del potro's 40 and gulbis' 19. his only big time win came over lopez earlier this year. it just seems that he is being quickly surpassed by all of the kids who had less hype surrounding them when they were as young as he was and are now producing some very solid results.
A couple of points here:
1. Del Potro and Gulbis are both approximately 1 year older than Donald Young.
2. You say that Young is being "surpassed by all the kids..." Who are you talking about? Gulbis, Del Potro, and Nishikori are the only three that are even in the same ballpark when it comes to age/ranking. And they are all ranked below Donald.
If he's being quickly surpassed, why is he ranked ahead of them??? Doesn't that also mean that he was ranked ahead of them, but then they overtook him????
del potro was injured for 3-4 months i believe leading into miami...he did play adelaide but had to take a couple of months off after that to heal up
Lastly, dont discount the importance of size in the equation. Del Potro and Gulbis are both bigger than DY, and I'm pretty sure they've been that size for a while. DY just grew in the last year.
I'm still not sure what his real stats are. Anyway, size plays a big role in competing on the ATP tour, unlike the jrs.
DY should get some tips from Rochus. Rochus obviously knows the secrets to competing against the big boys.
Let's hope DY can get himself a good coach to stimulate his progress.
DY needs to straighten out his cap before I take him seriously.
Young needs to find a new coach with ATP experience. Yes i agree with him tht his parents have brought him this far but it is time to find the next level also hire a sports psych to help his mental game, b/c that is what is truly holdinghim back right now even though he already Top 75.
do you guys really think donal young will be able to make into the top ten?
Difficult to predict. My guess is that he'll settle in an be a #20-35 type of player for most of his career. Like a Verdasco perhaps.
But I certainly wouldn't rule out top 10 and deep slam runs either.
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He's progressed to the top 100 and he's still 18. I'd say what they're doing is working.
What is his big weapon? To make the top 10 you have got to have the hammer to bring down on an opponent. DY hasn't developed it yet.
You're under the mistaken impression that 18 is young.
It isn't, unless you're developing an all-court, all-surface, legendarily great game like Fed was.
DY is just another in an infinite line of academy baseline junkies. You certainly CAN become great with that style, but if you're going to, you're damn close to winning slams by that age -- not ranked #73.
DY gets paid way too much to be anywhere near #73 at his now fairly advanced age. He should be Wilander, Nadal, or at least Chang by now if he's ever going to amount to anything.
He's not.
He should be considered a great failure, a disappointment, and a profound waste of both USTA and pro sponsor resources at this point. It's pretty late in the day for him to have accomplished so little.
Pretty sad commentary that there are "fans" out there willing to prop him up for such a do-nothing accomplishment, when history is absolutely riddled with players who have seen far less hype and monetary backing, yet have achieved so much more by the same age.
You're under the mistaken impression that 18 is young.
It isn't, unless you're developing an all-court, all-surface, legendarily great game like Fed was.
DY is just another in an infinite line of academy baseline junkies. You certainly CAN become great with that style, but if you're going to, you're damn close to winning slams by that age -- not ranked #73.
DY gets paid way too much to be anywhere near #73 at his now fairly advanced age. He should be Wilander, Nadal, or at least Chang by now if he's ever going to amount to anything.
He's not.
He should be considered a great failure, a disappointment, and a profound waste of both USTA and pro sponsor resources at this point. It's pretty late in the day for him to have accomplished so little.
Pretty sad commentary that there are "fans" out there willing to prop him up for such a do-nothing accomplishment, when history is absolutely riddled with players who have seen far less hype and monetary backing, yet have achieved so much more by the same age.
You're under the mistaken impression that 18 is young.
DY is just another in an infinite line of academy baseline junkies. You certainly CAN become great with that style, but if you're going to, you're damn close to winning slams by that age -- not ranked #73.
Agree. neither Davy nor ferrer have any huge weapons in terms of strokes, just great footspeed and great returns. both things that DY has- and he can work that lefty serve and has way better touch than either of those two (although i do like both of them). Even Djokovic doesn't have one thing that he's better at than everyone else. He's just fifth best at everything, and is consistent.Again, look at Davydenko, what is his big weapon ? Coria was top 10 with no big weapons other than good speed, which Donald has also. I'm not sure he'll be a top 10 player but I would disagree that everyone in the top 10 needs a big weapon.
Agree. neither Davy nor ferrer have any huge weapons in terms of strokes, just great footspeed and great returns. both things that DY has- and he can work that lefty serve and has way better touch than either of those two (although i do like both of them). Even Djokovic doesn't have one thing that he's better at than everyone else. He's just fifth best at everything, and is consistent.