tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Finally something big on the horizon. The only big names missing are Nadal and Del Potro. This tournament could pretty much decide who ends the year at no 1. Who's your pick?
2012 Shanghai Masters General Discussion thread
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Mainad
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Ferrer is currently playing in Beijing. Shanghai is a Masters and therefore not optional for him. He will incur penalties if he decides to skip it.
batz
G.O.A.T.
Not any more he's not - just pulled out against Lu in the 1st set
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Presumably with an injury hence not fit to play Shanghai. Well, you can't begrudge him really, the amount of tennis tournaments the guy has played this season. Something was bound to give sooner or later.
Hope it's not serious enough to keep him out for the rest of the season!
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Btw when is the draw announced?
Homeboy Hotel
Hall of Fame
2010: Murray
2011: Murray
2012: Murray
Yes, Murray.
Murray def. Federer 7-6 6-4
2011: Murray
2012: Murray
Yes, Murray.
Murray def. Federer 7-6 6-4
The Bawss
Banned
Federer will tank long before the final. Gotta keep the Murray h2h in check and stay fresh for Basel.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
How much rest does he need? He's been out for a month and then has another 2 weeks off after Shanghai.
I understand the "play the big tournaments only" policy but let's not get riddiculous here.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but why would Federer skip Masters 1000 tournaments but never miss Basel? I know it's his hometown and all but it doesn't seem like a wise choice, ranking and scheduling wise.
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
He wasn't supposed to win in Madrid...and he did. TT learned from their doubts at Wimbledon too.
Federer will win every tournament he enters......though most likely he will win 60 percent of them!
6-1 6-3 6-0
Banned
Yep, that's Talk Tennis. Just like AO 2012 SF, when Federer was predicted by voters to win in 4 sets, when the outcome was always going to be Nadal in 3 or 4.
bjk
Hall of Fame
He has to play at least 4 500 tournies. He'll play Dubai, Basel, Rotterdam plus Olies, so that's 4. I don't know if there's a requirement for 250s, but he's played Halle and Doha as well.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Nadal would never straight set Federer in a hard court slam, he barely scraped through the 2009 AO final and they never played at the US Open which is by far Federer's best slam and Nadal's worst.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
bjk
Hall of Fame
Commitment players (top 30 in 2011 year-end ranking) can count their best six (6) results from ATP World Tour 500, ATP World Tour 250 and other events (Challengers, Futures, Davis Cup, Olympics) toward their ranking. To count their best six (6), players must have fulfilled their commitment to 500 events - 4 total per year (at least 1 after the US Open).
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Most successful Slams:
Federer:
1. Wimbledon (8 finals: 7 wins, 1 loss).
2. US Open ((6 finals: 5 wins, 1 loss).
3. Australian Open (4 finals: 4 wins).
4. French Open ( 5 finals: 1 win, 4 losses).
Nadal:
1. French Open (7 finals: 7 wins).
2. Wimbledon (5 finals: 2 wins, 3 losses).
Joint 3. Australian Open (2 finals: 1win, 1 loss).
Joint 3. United States Open (2 finals: 1win, 1 loss).
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Nathaniel_Near
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Murray is the most dominant athlete in the world today in Shanghai. It's impossible for him to lose there, in fact, he'll win the tournament without dropping a set.
Actually no, I'll go for Djokovic.
Actually no, I'll go for Djokovic.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
From a technical point of view, yes. I still think that Federer was more dominant at the US Open than Wimbledon, just because he had the same results but that much more competition.
Surely the Us Open is Federer's best chance to beat Nadal these days, though.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
So the draw should be coming up soon. Let's see where Murray lands this time.
tennisfan2010
Rookie
Prisoner of Birth
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Where's Djokovic?
kaku
Professional
At the bottom right corner, can't see his name cuz its covered
batz
G.O.A.T.
Bottom right - covered by the Chinese words. He's playing one of the Bye Brothers in R1.
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Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Cheers, Murray fans! 
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
So, going by the draw, advantage Djokovic?
Zildite
Hall of Fame
His potential SF opponent is probably easier but Fed should not have much trouble reaching the SF at least.
Murray's seems to get tougher a bit earlier.
As bjk wrote, a committment player can count 6 sub-1000 tournaments, up to four of them 500s.
If he doesn't play enough 500s, he doesn't get any points from that "slot" - meaning even if he won three 250s, he'd only get to count two of them
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
The draw looks decent for Federer to the semis, no real big threats. Then there's Murray in the semis and Djokovic in the finals.
See, that no 1 rank is worthless if he's getting the no 3 seed every single freaking time instead of the no 4.
See, that no 1 rank is worthless if he's getting the no 3 seed every single freaking time instead of the no 4.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
As always. Watch Murray's section clear out after 2 days.
Hawkeye7
Professional
Well, considering Berdych is the 4th seed here, I'm not so sure Fed would prefer that.
Marius_Hancu
Talk Tennis Guru
Pretty good draw for Raonic in Shanghai
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/5014/mds.pdf
shots at Tsonga, Berdych (QF), Djokovic, Federer (in order)
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/5014/mds.pdf
shots at Tsonga, Berdych (QF), Djokovic, Federer (in order)
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Well, considering Berdych is the 4th seed here, I'm not so sure Fed would prefer that.
Berdych is twice as likely to lose before the semis than Murray.
The Bawss
Banned
If he wins Shanghai with that draw, I will never utter a word about Raonic ever again.
Prisoner of Birth
Banned
Well, considering Berdych is the 4th seed here, I'm not so sure Fed would prefer that.
I'd rather watch a Federer-Murray match anyway. I wanna see how Federer comes back from that Olympics beat-down.
Def
Semi-Pro
Federer lost the AO '09 final to nadal, so 5 finals, 4 wins
We'll see if Raonic has re-energized himslelf in Shanghai. He has played a lot of tennis lately.
Zildite
Hall of Fame
This has been voted by the ATP players as the Masters 1000 tournament of the year for the past three years.
Guess they like the peace and quiet.
Duncan Bell
Hall of Fame
Looks like Dimitrov made pretty light work of Andujar in two sets to set up a meeting with Nole.
Should be a near-enough walkover for the Bulgarian.
Should be a near-enough walkover for the Bulgarian.
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