What are RAfa's odds (as per the bookies) ?
Last time I looked he was about 5/1 for the WTF. I you were to bet on him and he didn't play then you'd get your money back.
What is Nadal's health status as of now? Does it look like he will play?
I wasn't impressed with Djokovic in Shanghai. I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts. I know Murray lost that final, but 5 matchpoints, so not like there is any real difference between Murray and Djokovic. And I just get the impression Murray has more talent while Djokovic relies more on stamina which is probably not a reliable thing this late in the year.
I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts.
I wasn't impressed with Djokovic in Shanghai. I think Murray is now better than him on hardcourts. I know Murray lost that final, but 5 matchpoints, so not like there is any real difference between Murray and Djokovic. And I just get the impression Murray has more talent while Djokovic relies more on stamina which is probably not a reliable thing this late in the year.
If Murray is now better than him on hardcourts why is Djokovic the bookies' favorite to win AO?
Seems someone still but hurt from them Novak beatings in 2011.
Did you die a little after AO this year?
Because Djokovic is the defending champion (although he wasn't exactly convincing last year). A win is a win. You are the favorite until you lose. That is how simple bookies are. They don't have time to watch tennis.
Nadal was the defending champion at US Open 2011, but Djokovic was the bookies's favorite. Therefore, your argument fails.
It wasn't an argument, it was a factual observation.
The bookies usually go with the defending champion. Not always, but nearly always.
Actually, I wanted Djokovic to beat Nadal at the 2012 Australian Open final so it would put Djokovic in a position to win The Djokovic Slam, and it would allow Nadal to break Djokovic's heart at Roland Garros. That's the worst feeling. I know, because I had to watch Nadal tear that muscle at the 2011 Australian Open going for The Rafa Slam.
Because Djokovic is the defending champion (although he wasn't exactly convincing in 2012, winning 7-5 in the 5th set vs Murray and Nadal). A win is a win. You are the favorite until you lose. That is how simple bookies are. They don't have time to watch tennis.[/QUOTE]
I think you've amended this from your previous assertion that 'the bookies nearly always make the defending champion favourite'.
That assertion, and your sentence in bold above, is one of the daftest things I've ever seen posted on this board (and that's saying something). Bookmakers price risk. They have some of the most advance risk pricing systems, and some of the cleverest people, on the planet. The notion that they put little thought or time into their risk pricing of tennis is fecking mental. It's how they make money.
Actually, I wanted Djokovic to beat Nadal at the 2012 Australian Open final so it would put Djokovic in a position to win The Djokovic Slam, and it would allow Nadal to break Djokovic's heart at Roland Garros. That's the worst feeling. I know, because I had to watch Nadal tear that muscle at the 2011 Australian Open going for The Rafa Slam.
Murray is now 3rd favourite for RG with a best price of 9/1 was 20/1 just a couple of weeks ago.
Murray is now 3rd favourite for RG with a best price of 9/1 was 20/1 just a couple of weeks ago.
My first inclination is to laugh, but then again I cant imagine Federer winning another RG title at his age, even is prime to prime he was a way better clay courter than Murray thus far. As long as the odds have Nadal way in the lead, Djokovic clearly in 2nd, and everyone else far behind, I cant say much about them either way.
I think Del Potro or Ferrer have a lot more chances to win it than Murray.
Ferrer doesnt have the champions mentality to win a slam no matter what IMO. I agree Ferrer is a better clay courter than Murray, but I would still give Murray a better chance to WIN Roland Garros (no matter how small) than Ferrer who I cant envision winning any slam. Not only does he lack the big weapon(s) to do it, he lacks the mindset.
Del Potro? Not only is he not close to winning any slam again yet at this point, but with his major fitness issues since his comeback the last one he would win right now is RG.
Fed and Murray are better indoor player than Djokovic though, but if Djokovic is fully motivated he could overcome that.
Djokovic owns Murray mentally in a big match even if their overall H2H is close. Even that U.S Open Djokovic nearly came back almost a sure winning position for Murray, I am still amazed Murray managed to pull out that 5th set somehow.
As for Federer I think apart from sometimes grass where as you know I dont think Djokovic is that good even after his Wimbledon title, hence why I picked Federer to beat Djokovic at Wimbledon in the semis this year, Djokovic can pretty much always beat Federer in a big match he wants to win at this phase of Federer's career. I dont think we will see a stunning upset like RG 2011 again. Although Federer's best chanceoutside Wimbledon would be the WTF, and it wouldnt be nearly as surprising as say RG or AO if he were to somehow beat Djokovic there.
Djokovic owns Murray mentally in a big match even if their overall H2H is close. Even that U.S Open Djokovic nearly came back almost a sure winning position for Murray, I am still amazed Murray managed to pull out that 5th set somehow.
Djokovic owns Murray mentally in a big match even if their overall H2H is close. Even that U.S Open Djokovic nearly came back almost a sure winning position for Murray, I am still amazed Murray managed to pull out that 5th set somehow.
As for Federer I think apart from sometimes grass where as you know I dont think Djokovic is that good even after his Wimbledon title, hence why I picked Federer to beat Djokovic at Wimbledon in the semis this year, Djokovic can pretty much always beat Federer in a big match he wants to win at this phase of Federer's career. I dont think we will see a stunning upset like RG 2011 again. Although Federer's best chanceoutside Wimbledon would be the WTF, and it wouldnt be nearly as surprising as say RG or AO if he were to somehow beat Djokovic there.
Actually, I wanted Djokovic to beat Nadal at the 2012 Australian Open final so it would put Djokovic in a position to win The Djokovic Slam, and it would allow Nadal to break Djokovic's heart at Roland Garros. That's the worst feeling. I know, because I had to watch Nadal tear that muscle at the 2011 Australian Open going for The Rafa Slam.