2020 ATP Finals SF: Rafael Nadal vs. Daniil Medvedev

[UnforcedTerror]

I don't know what they have done to the court, but it's bouncier than it has ever been.

Medvedev needs to have a good day on serve, otherwise Nadal takes this one in 3.

 

[ForehandCross]

If Medvedev serves like he did against Djokovic, Medvedev in 2 or 3.

If Nadal gets back many returns or Medvedev doesn't serve as well, Nadal in 3.

 

[aorgwimbus]

Is this other thread deleted ? Weird.

It looks like this match will be on 2 pm local time on Saturday despite the fact that Medvedev-Schwartzmann will play on 8 pm on Friday. I know it is a dead rubber but absurd scheduling.

 

[Jokervich]

I swear I made a post in the Nadal Medvedev thread already, what happened to it?

Nadal in 3. Still hoping for a Djokodal final

 

[Daniel Andrade]

what happened to the other thread?

 

[aldeayeah]

what happened to the other thread?

According to the message I got, it got deleted for having "sheet in 3" in the OP poll. Dunno if it was proactively removed or someone reported it.

eh it was a silly thread anyway grumble grumble

 

[topher]

If Medvedev serves like he did against Djokovic, Medvedev in 2 or 3.

If Nadal gets back many returns or Medvedev doesn't serve as well, Nadal in 3.

I actually think this is one of the few cases where Rafa does better on return than Novak. Novak goes for more aggressive returns on 2nd serves. Medvedev is very unpredictable on 2nd serve (on purpose, not on accident like Zverev) and it made Novak mishit.

Rafa hits the 2nd serve return with more margin for error, so isn’t bothered quite as much by Medvedev’s variation in 2nd serves.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Undertaker? Wings?

 

[Mike Sams]

Medvedev will earn $306,000 for playing and beating Diego Schwartzman.
Diego likewise will earn the same for beating Medvedev.
I believe that's pretty good financial incentive for players to put the effort into winning round robin matches (even when one is already qualified for the semifinals as Medvedev is).

The prize money is a lot lower than last year.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Medvedev will earn $306,000 for playing and beating Diego Schwartzman.
Diego likewise will earn the same for beating Medvedev.
I believe that's pretty good financial incentive for players to put the effort into winning round robin matches (even when one is already qualified for the semifinals as Medvedev is).

The prize money is a lot lower than last year.

Pshhh. Wish we common folk could make that for doing something that took 2 hours

 

[Mike Sams]

Pshhh. Wish we common folk could make that for doing something that took 2 hours

That's actually 28% lower than last year. Last year it was $430,000 to play and win the third round robin match.

2020	2019	% change
Participation	$153,000	$215,000	-28.8
Round robin win	$153,000	$215,000	-28.8
Semi-final win	$402,000	$657,000	-38.8
Final win	$550,000	$1,354,000	-59.4
Champion (minimum)	$1,411,000	$2,656,000	-46.9
Champion (maximum)	$1,564,000	$2,871,000	-45.5
Total prize fund	$5,700,000	$9,000,000	-36.7

 

[Mike Sams]

Pshhh. Wish we common folk could make that for doing something that took 2 hours

What's stopping you? Go get your tennis racquet out, hit the courts and start practicing!
Even 5'2" Diego Shortman is making the green!

 

[Jokervich]

Medvedev will earn $306,000 for playing and beating Diego Schwartzman.
Diego likewise will earn the same for beating Medvedev.
I believe that's pretty good financial incentive for players to put the effort into winning round robin matches (even when one is already qualified for the semifinals as Medvedev is).

The prize money is a lot lower than last year.

These guy are already rich enough that they probably don't care about that money. Medvedev's wikipedia page says he's made over $12 million in prize money and that's not counting endorsements and sponsorships.

Also you have to look at it from a bigger perspective - he might make 300k for that win, but he stands to win more if he's fresh for the Nadal match and possible final after.

 

[Terenigma]

What happened to the other match thread?

Well whatever, i'll say the same. I think Medvedev has looked more in form but i don't think he will win in straights so i'm going with sheet in 3.

 

[Nadal_King]

Is this other thread deleted ? Weird.

It looks like this match will be on 2 pm local time on Saturday despite the fact that Medvedev-Schwartzmann will play on 8 pm on Friday. I know it is a dead rubber but absurd scheduling.

Illogical scheduling if they needed to do this then zverev/djokovic should have played 2nd on friday

 

[aorgwimbus]

Illogical scheduling if they needed to do this then zverev/djokovic should have played 2nd on friday

Someone said on Twitter that it was a technical mistake and the schedule on official website is empty now. We will see what happens.

 

[Cortana]

What the hell? Med playing today late and tomorrow early? What is this?

 

[Krish0608]

Med in 2/3. He is focused and is playing his best tennis.

 

[Nadal_King]

Someone said on Twitter that it was a technical mistake and the schedule on official website is empty now. We will see what happens.

Then it's good it should be thiem vs Zverev/djokovic first

 

[weakera]

What the hell? Med playing today late and tomorrow early? What is this?

Uncle Toni's dominion scheduling software at work

 

[ForehandCross]

I hope Medvedev takes this.

And Thiem beats whoever qualifies from the other group.

Then it's win-win situation for me.

 

[ForehandCross]

Uncle Toni's dominion scheduling software at work

Wait a moment, Aren't Rafael fans gonna storm the street this time for that result changing extra one day of rest this time?

I thought Nadal fans hated such scheduling.

 

[TheNachoMan]

RAFA in 3. I’m backing him to win the meme finals now @Yugram

 

[ForehandCross]

@Yugram you logged off after Thiem won .... Would have loved to hear your immediate thoughts on the match.

 

[DSH]

50/50!

 

[Yugram]

@Yugram you logged off after Thiem won .... Would have loved to hear your immediate thoughts on the match.

Good match

Unfortunate mental muggery from Nadal

 

[Sambuccashake]

Med in 2/3. He is focused and is playing his best tennis.

Best tennis will not be enough against the good tennis.

Nadal in 3 because of nerfed conditions.

 

[stringertom]

Where’s @aldeayeah to remind everyone that this match doesn’t happen if Medfly tests positive or gets injured tonight?

 

[aldeayeah]

Where’s @aldeayeah to remind everyone that this match doesn’t happen if Medfly tests positive or gets injured tonight?

A direct meteorite strike is also a feasible stopping circumstance.

 

[Yugram]

 

[romeo8880]

Medvedev -150 favorite

 

[Yugram]

Medvedev -150 favorite

Absurd, considering his 0% win rate against Nadal.

 

[Jokervich]

.

 

[NoleFam]

I think Nadal is winning this in 3.

 

[TennisFan3]

Medvedev in 3 sets is my pick. However it could go either way.

 

[Cortana]

Hopefully Nadal. So Djokovic can take him out easily in the final.

 

[ForehandCross]

Tommorow is a good day for tennis.

Exciting matchups.

 

[Yugram]

Tommorow is a good day for tennis.

Exciting matchups.

Are you ready for Thiemdal rematch when they take out these 2 disgusting pushers tomorrow?

 

[StrongRule]

Are you ready for Thiemdal rematch when they take out these 2 disgusting pushers tomorrow?

On Nadal-Thiem matches you are even more popular than me.

 

[Deleted member 770948]

Medvedev was in better form last year and still lost to Nadal who wasn't playing well....
And even though Medvedev pushed Nadal to 5 sets at last year's US Open, Nadal won the first 2 sets so it'd be straight sets victory in best-of-3.
Also Nadal beat Medvedev 63 60 in the Final of Canada 2019.
Medvedev's best form has not been enough....

 

[ForehandCross]

Are you ready for Thiemdal rematch when they take out these 2 disgusting pushers tomorrow?

Why not.

But would love Medvedev to make the finals.

 

[alexio]

Absurd, considering his 0% win rate against Nadal.

ага нет ничего важнее на этом белом свете чем 2-0 или 3-0 в личных встречах при выборе кэфа, да здравствует! 3-0непоколебимая, несокрушимая сила!

 

[clout]

What the hell? Med playing today late and tomorrow early? What is this?

He's 24 so he should be able to keep playing non-stop. No way should he ever be tired at that age when going up against boomerdal or boomervic

 

[alexio]

What the hell? Med playing today late and tomorrow early? What is this?

you sure it will be tomorrow early?..

 

[Cortana]

Changing my vote to 6:3 6:3 Med.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

you sure it will be tomorrow early?..

Fake news!

 

[tennisjedi]

Mad Lad is playing really well.
I wouldn't be surprised if he won in straights.
Hopefully lightning strikes twice and Nadal wins.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Absurd, considering his 0% win rate against Nadal.

In addition to Med's outrageous choking at last year's YEC against Rafa.

 

[Cortana]

Srsly, this will be a beatdown. Similiar to AO2019 finals. Nadal will lose in less than 90 minutes.

 

[Yugram]

Srsly, this will be a beatdown. Similiar to AO2019 finals. Nadal will lose in less than 90 minutes.

Sweet bump material.