How can I convince opponent to admit a double bounce?

[Orange]

For the second time recently, I lost a point that I should have won because my opponent wouldn't admit a double bounce.

What can I say in order to convince my opponent that the ball bounced twice before she hit it?

Here is the situation: Once in a while, I am able to hit a dramatic slice drop shot. If I hit it directly to my opponent's left, it veers sharply to her right after the bounce (turning what was originally a backhand for a righty into a forehand). Usually, my 3.0 opponent cannot get a racket on it, so it is clearly my point.

Twice recently, my opponent swung and missed the backhand shot, the ball bounced and veered sharply to her right, bounced again, and the opponent returned it with her forehand. From her standpoint, she flailed away at it until she hit it, and it happened so quickly she thought she had a great return. From my standpoint, I knew what was happening because I have done it many times before, and I was watching it all unfold.

I recognize that the rule states that a player should promptly admit a double bounce. In each case, the player truly didn't see both bounces. How can I politely convince her that it bounced twice without being argumentative?

 

[LeeD]

Tough one there.
She is 3.0, so doesn't have the tennis experience to recognize she double bounced her attempt.

 

[KineticChain]

use science, like our GOAT and savior Rogi Fedfed does
http://youtu.be/8ofNg0y8w60

 

[leroy_sunset]

It's her call, even if it's wrong. Speak your piece and move on.

On Sunday, my idiot opponent reached over the net and popped a volley at my wife, hitting her in the chest. The court was wiiiide open down the middle. I told him he hit the ball before it crossed the net, he disagreed. Not my call to make, unfortunately. I hit him two points later.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Hit a better drop shot.

 

[tenniscasey]

Here is the situation: Once in a while, I am able to hit a dramatic slice drop shot. If I hit it directly to my opponent's left, it veers sharply to her right after the bounce (turning what was originally a backhand for a righty into a forehand). Usually, my 3.0 opponent cannot get a racket on it, so it is clearly my point.

Twice recently, my opponent swung and missed the backhand shot, the ball bounced and veered sharply to her right, bounced again, and the opponent returned it with her forehand. From her standpoint, she flailed away at it until she hit it, and it happened so quickly she thought she had a great return. From my standpoint, I knew what was happening because I have done it many times before, and I was watching it all unfold.

I recognize that the rule states that a player should promptly admit a double bounce. In each case, the player truly didn't see both bounces. How can I politely convince her that it bounced twice without being argumentative?

Am I the only one who finds this implausible? I'm trying to picture this fact pattern in my head and it just doesn't make any sense.

 

[sureshs]

Am I the only one who finds this implausible? I'm trying to picture this fact pattern in my head and it just doesn't make any sense.

It was a backhand slice+side-spin drop shot from a righty to a righty. That should make it clear.

 

[beernutz]

Am I the only one who finds this implausible? I'm trying to picture this fact pattern in my head and it just doesn't make any sense.

No. As described by the OP it does not seem possible.

 

[Orange]

I am sorry that my description wasn’t clearer. This shot is executed using a one-handed backhand, returning a soft, low ball, with an extreme carving motion under and to the side of the ball, taking the ball cross court and imparting sidespin. The sharp veering effect is seen only on clay; the shot works on hard surfaces, but the effect is muted.

If you saw me do it once, you would recognize it by the stroke the second time around because the motion is so curved and I don’t yet know how to disguise it.

Sureshs is correct: it was executed by a righty to a righty.

Despite the limitations of my description, do you have any suggestions as to what to say to the opponent who doesn’t realize that she hit it after the second bounce?

 

[dcdoorknob]

You can say to them "I saw it bounce twice."

If they still insist that it didn't, oh well. It's their call by rule assuming no officials are present.

 

[SoBad]

Just do whatever you do when you disagree with a line call.

By the way, 9 times out of 10 you can easily put away whatever the opponent produces off the second bounce in a situation like this, so you might want to just always put the ball away, no matter how sure you are of the double-bounce.

 

[treblings]

Just do whatever you do when you disagree with a line call.

By the way, 9 times out of 10 you can easily put away whatever the opponent produces off the second bounce in a situation like this, so you might want to just always put the ball away, no matter how sure you are of the double-bounce.

good advice imo
the ball will probably come back with a similar sidespin/slice, but that shouldn´t trouble the OP too much

 

[sundaypunch]

Somewhere there is probably a thread here-

"What can I do to convince my unreasonable opponent that I hit the shot before it bounced twice?".

 

[LuckyR]

For the second time recently, I lost a point that I should have won because my opponent wouldn't admit a double bounce.

What can I say in order to convince my opponent that the ball bounced twice before she hit it?

Here is the situation: Once in a while, I am able to hit a dramatic slice drop shot. If I hit it directly to my opponent's left, it veers sharply to her right after the bounce (turning what was originally a backhand for a righty into a forehand). Usually, my 3.0 opponent cannot get a racket on it, so it is clearly my point.

Twice recently, my opponent swung and missed the backhand shot, the ball bounced and veered sharply to her right, bounced again, and the opponent returned it with her forehand. From her standpoint, she flailed away at it until she hit it, and it happened so quickly she thought she had a great return. From my standpoint, I knew what was happening because I have done it many times before, and I was watching it all unfold.

I recognize that the rule states that a player should promptly admit a double bounce. In each case, the player truly didn't see both bounces. How can I politely convince her that it bounced twice without being argumentative?

Just be happy that they know how to keep score and are willing to spend the time chasing tennis balls.

 

[struggle]

quit junkballing and play tennis....

 

[tennisdad65]

at the 3.0 level, you are allowed to hit after two bounces

 

[Infamous]

Play 3.5 doesn't happen nearly as often..

 

[darrinbaker00]

How can you convince your opponent to admit a double bounce? Bodily harm, of course.

 

[TennisCJC]

You cannot convince them. You can ask if it bounced twice or say I saw it bounce twice to question their call but it is their call.

By the way, once an opponent of mine insisted I hit a 2 bouncer reply off his drop shot. I was 100% certain I got it on the 1st bounce. I was so certain that I actually started laughing when he insisted it was 2 bounces because I thought he was joking. Then I realized he was serious and he would not give it up. I actually saw the racket strike the ball and it was well off the court. Again, not a shred of doubt in my mind. The guy wouldn't give it up even though he started running from the far CC corner and was on the full run when I made contact. I was actually on balance and hit a fairly return shot well off the court at contact. So, there is a chance you are wrong.

 

[mctennis]

It's their call not yours. Part of the game and rules. Just like calling a serve in or out or any ball hitting or not hitting the edge of a line. Sorry about your luck. It has probably has happened to a lot of us over the years. I do not lose any sleep over it. Life is way too short.

 

[Cindysphinx]

It's easy.

The minute this happens, make no effort to play the ball and start laughing and pointing.

They will be so embarrassed and taken off guard that they will concede the point to end their humiliation.