Low, low tensions. 30lbs feels great. 20lbs pretty good, too

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  1. Sander001

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    I'm really liking this setup but I'm not sure I'd go this low if it didn't have 18 mains.
     
  2. mike84

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    Anyone play with Yonex AI 98 with lower tension?

    If so what string would you recommend trying?

    I have never played below 52 pounds tension on any racquet.

    Wanted to experiment with something around 40 pounds for starter to see how it goes.

    I was thinking of Volkl cyclone at 40 pounds full bed.
     
  3. Chotobaka

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    What kind of machine? I have used full Cyclone 18 @35 on an eCP machine with excellent results. This would roughly be equivalent to 40 on a lockout.
     
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    Does anyone use MSV Focus Hex 1.23 on low tensions? I've been using 53 pounds for a long time, but last week I tried one of my racquets and it had lost lots of tension, but performed really well. Since then I'm considering a drop in tension, though I'm not sure I'd be able to manage ball depth on stress (tough point, hitting on the run, winner down the line etc). Thoughts?
     
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    Gamma 6004 at my local tennis club.
    Friend works there so he strings my racquets.

    I think anything below 40 would be too far for me to start with. As I am usually in mid 50's.

    Would it be better to go with Cyclone 18 or 16 gauge?
     
  6. Chotobaka

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    40 will work fine as a starting point on a lock out, but do not discount even lower tension. I have really enjoyed thinner gauge poly in full beds at low tension, so I recommend you give the 18g a try. Experimenting with different set ups is well worth the effort.
     
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  7. Karma Tennis

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    @Chotobaka, how quickly do you churn through a set of this in terms of playing hours. Do you hit with a lot of spin?

    We've been experimenting with full bed PP Black Out at 36lbs in a 16x19 pattern. It loses a lot of its performance at around the 2 hour mark. Play's very nicely till then but then falls off the cliff. (We get about 5 hours out of it at 50lbs - 52lbs). I'm thinking Black Out works a lot better at higher tensions.

    Very familiar with Cyclone 16 but never tried Cylone 18. Might have to give it a go.
     
  8. Chotobaka

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    I haven't played with Black Out, so I cannot offer a direct comparison and I do not really accurately keep track of use in hours, but would guesstimate at least 5-6 hours. Cyclone 18g does not exhibit much of the "falling off the cliff" experience for me. There is a definite performance curve with Cyclone, including a slight break-in, but is not as extreme for me as the hybrid set-ups I use or some other soft co-poly strings in terms of losing performance suddenly. I would more likely be the culprit in those cases.

    I hit with mostly moderate spin these days, but still hit high spin shots selectively. I am not a big string breaker, so the issue for me with strings at end-of-life is control. I definitely do have to re-string more frequently since I have gone to lower tension/thin gauge, but the trade off is well worth it to me. In the uber-thin gauges, I find that Tour Bite holds up longer than other strings I have tried, but more $$ and I still wind up re-stringing frequently. It is solid down to the 18g, but can break easily on a shank in 19g and 20g (which I would reserve for very closed patterns). Cyclone is still one of the really good bang for the buck strings out there.
     
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    Thanks @Chotobaka. Will have to try getting my hands on the 18g in some of the different colors and see how they go at lower tensions in full beds, and perhaps as crosses in a hybrid with Black Out mains.
     
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    You are welcome. Although Cyclone doesn't break the bank, I almost always wait for one of their frequent deals at TW (like buy 2 get 3) which really drops the price down. I hope it works out for you.
     
  11. gvsbdisco

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    Hi Everyone.
    Advice sought.

    I am using a Prince Textreme 100T (16x18) with some lead at 3&9 and weighting in the handle. I also have a sensitive wrist (ulnar side). I wanted to try some polys at lower tension. I started with Proline II 18 at 44 lbs and it was comfortable but underpowered and I thought the stringbed got a little erratic after 3-4 hours. Next I tried Tour Bite at 34 lbs (drop weight stringer). I thought this played fantastic. Explosive power, and rewarded a nice smooth swing. I liked it alot. However, after playing I felt some discomfort in my wrist so it has to get cut out. On hand I have the following strings:

    - cyclone 16 (firm)
    - spiky black shark 16 (firm)
    - golden power cord 16 (soft and lively co-poly)
    - Pro Line II 18 (soft and low powered)

    I have played cyclone and spiky black shark comfortably at 55 lbs but in a 16x16 ported Prince Tour 100T ESP. However, that frame seems absorb every possible shock and is ridiculously comfortable.

    Looking for tension recommendations for the above strings based on the information above. Also curious about comfort comparisons between the stiffer strings at low tensions (TB, Cyclone, Spiky BS) and whether people have had luck going low tension with the soft co-polys (power cord, pro line II)

    thanks for any information you can provide.
     
  12. Sander001

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    I've been trying very low tensions for the last few seasons and find that multifilaments for example, are still more comfortable in the long term, even when strung much tighter.
    Poly Tour Pro and Hawk Touch, possibly the most comfortable polyester strings around, are not as comfortable even when strung in the 20lbs. Even when compared to a syngut or multifilaments polyester hybrid.

    I'm using monogut zyex with a polyester cross right now and it's also much more comfortable and has very decent spin too. 42/27lbs.
     
  13. tegg96

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    Agree with the Zyex, but what is a Wilson GD97 in your sig?
     
  14. Karma Tennis

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    Presumably it's the Wilson prototype spin effect racquet that is used by Grigor Dimitrov, hence the "GD"
     
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  15. BuildStrikeCosmos

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    Hey guys, I remember reading a summary here sometime ago but now can't find it. Someone did a summary listing the tension and their traits which others have agreed with.

    e.g something like 'between 38-42lb you get the most power of ELT'
    and they listed from upper 20s to high 40s.

    I'm asking because I'm considering which tension to string for my next stringing.

    I tried 30lb and it had a very high launch angle and still felt very controllable. I also tried 40lb but strung it in a very dead racquet with bad vibrations so can't comment on it.
     
  16. Shroud

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    for the vibes, go up or down a few lbs in tension.
     

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