LOL, maybe you can answer them for me? Should I worry about the racket face angle if I already know how to turn my shoulders in preparation and then uncoil and meet the ball cleanly out front. If I'm doing this consistently and turning my shoulders is allowing me to close the racket face and make clean contact without manipulating anything else, why would I even worry about the racket face angle or the leading edge of the frame? When I first learned the groundstrokes my coach focused a lot on what contact should feel like. Now, it's automatic for me. But, I've never heard any coaches explain it the way Oscar does, so I'm asking him to elaborate so I can understand it more. All the slow motion videos I've watched seem to contradict what Oscar says about the contact phase of the stroke. That's why, I was politely asking him to elaborate, and explain these issues.
3 US guys in the tennis top 50;
25 (!!) in the golf top 50.
forget about (many reasons)... something is seriously wrong here.
you tell me
lets tell all those US tennis players that aren't in the top 50 to massage the ball, count to five, stalk the ball, find the ball from bellow, and yank up and across. Once they understand the essence of modern tennis, there will surely be more in the top 25.
A lot of them. Lol
A lot of them. Lol
i mentioned roddick (retired and was one of the few successes of his generation anyway).
the bryans are doing a fabulous job, but dubs is different. we're talking singles men.
with all the college players, juniors, sponsorship, access and money in tennis in the usa i can't imagine why you don't have more top players.
^^^ So I guess Roddick doesn't count at all? He was the only credible threat to Fed in his prime.
send a couple of your boys to spain for a year or two. it worked for andy murray!
And like Sampras, but even more so, totally went as his serve went. Without
2-3 free pts on each svc game,....no chance.
In most countries, athletic boys of all social classes, will play either soccer or tennis. In America, athletic boys will play or do football, basketball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, track, volleyball, hockey, skateboarding, video games.
We just do not have enough very athletic and hungry boys involved in tennis to beat the odds of producing another champion. Also, back in the day tennis was not as global. Mac did not battle as many well trained Russians, Serbians, Spaniards, etc.
^^^ but all the stuff above was roughly the same when sampras/agassi/courier/chang emerged on the scene.
something else went wrong.
No, global awareness of tennis is way higher now. And rackets and apparel are far more affordable today in emerging nations.
same argument can be made for golf, why is US not losing dominance there?
I was talking about across as opposed to backwards (which seemed too be your implication of in), not as opposed to pull. For a more detailed explanation I am more in agreance with:Yes, across is much better than yank or pull in as it is more accurate.
And:I think what some folks are finding difficult to grasp is that the pulling in, which happens close to contact, is a composite action that incorporates up, across, and forward movement. It is simply a result of the human anatomy being what it is...
As you wrote yourself:Incorrect.
You can pull across with any type of forehand. Oscar talks about bicep usage but there are other ways to do it. You can pull across with a minute change in torso rotation or a slight adjustment in tension in some part of the body such as the shoulder or hip or by a change in the amount of bend in your knees. You can even do it using the tilt of your shoulders or any combination of the above. Any such change during the swing no matter how small increases rhs considerably.
Many people don't get this because they've never tried, or they won't try because they don't believe it or they don't want to change or because it challenges the method's they were taught since the beginning or because they can't see it because it's usually not a big move.
The fact is it works. Not everyone does it and not everyone who does do it does it on every stroke. Pro's need every ounce of advantage they can get. A one inch tug here or there give or take that will increase rhs and spin will be utililized.
Here's one player who does it on a larger scale that is easier to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-4ssvjz1Sg&t=2m05s
watch it for a few mins
Pulling across yes, but not pulling back
I think many more players can do this than Federer and Nadal.The complication is with players like Fed and Nadal who can swipe the ball sideways for side spin, which a door cannot do.
You can not hit with a limb arm. And hitting with a fixed arm does not seem right. So there must be some dynamic muscle action, as in contraction (pull). Just reflecting on this.
Serve is part of the game. People who cannot win free points on their serve can trade groundstrokes all day, so what? Often makes for boring viewing.
Ultimately, Roddick won a Slam in the Federer era. Only results matter.
LOL you think Roddick cannot play off the ground? Do you even realize what you are talking about? His forehand used to be one of the best in his day.
Not a top 20 player with an avg serve...end of story.
Likely would not have ever got on tour to start with without that monster serve.
So what? We need different styles of players. Otherwise there will only be Nadal and Fed clones, and one way to do everything. Learn to enjoy variety and appreciate the level of tennis all these guys play, instead of putting on one pair of lenses to look at the world, just to push some argument through. It is getting tiring.
tired...then step out of a thread where you don't understand the topic.
Everyone likes styles, but this thread is about modern tips and yes, some include
the serve, but most are about how to play off the ground.
Your agenda is so transparent, but the problem is you have really started thinking that way, and just cannot see it how it really is.
OK let us bury the hatchet here and move on
We know what your agenda is: insult American players, marginalize their achievements, somehow account for the Fab 4 without really appreciating them, and glorify Spanish players, all as a way of hitting out at American coaches.
What is a relation of this post to OP?Glad to accept your suggestion after clearing up one more big point.
I don't insult US players or coaches. I'm just stating the state of the game as
any good coach or player can see. US coaches did what was presented to
them and actually overachieved in many cases on both fronts.
In most cases the coaches were too good of students, but with bad info.
I take my hats off to them!
Pete and Andy are 2 of my favorite all time players and I love the big serve.
In fact I just love to think what they could have done with better fundamentals
in their game from the start. Anyone could see that Andy could hardly slice or
volley when he got to the Majors, and the Bh was below avg.
Makes his results even more impressive to his CREDIT.
What is a relation of this post to OP?
Andy's serve came from experimenting in frustration, and one day he just found the magic combo for him. Throughout his career, purists insisted that his shoulder would collapse with that action, but he somehow got through.