Oscar Wegner

orangettecoleman

Professional
i bought the book and it was pretty useless. he claims that you shouldn't worry about footwork or preparing early, which is total nonsense. listen to him and you'll get stuck with a lot of bad habits. there's a reason he hasn't coached anyone notable. he just gave some pep talks to Borg and Mcenroe when their careers were winding down. also, L Ron Hubbard is the first person he thanks in his book, which should raise red flags right away.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
What about Vic Branden or Nick Bolletieri ? . What do you think of their DVDs ?



teotjunk

I don't know as much about Nick Bolletieri, but starting out, I read lots of Vic Braeden. A few of his statemets stand out in my mind.
  • the ball is round, the racquet is flat, it goes where you point it.
  • to beat most players, all you have to do is hit down the middle and deep.
  • tennis isn't easy, but it's not complicated
The only criticism I might list is that I think he over-emphasizes topspin. I think weekend players don't need it, they don't generate alot of racquet head speed, so gravity will pull the ball down into the court. Topspin just makes them mishit even more shots. Topspin is for the really good players.
 

teotjunk

Rookie
I don't know as much about Nick Bolletieri, but starting out, I read lots of Vic Braeden. A few of his statemets stand out in my mind.
  • the ball is round, the racquet is flat, it goes where you point it.
  • to beat most players, all you have to do is hit down the middle and deep.
  • tennis isn't easy, but it's not complicated
The only criticism I might list is that I think he over-emphasizes topspin. I think weekend players don't need it, they don't generate alot of racquet head speed, so gravity will pull the ball down into the court. Topspin just makes them mishit even more shots. Topspin is for the really good players.

So do you think Vic Branden's DVD and book is worth the purchase ?


teotjunk
 

max

Legend
Steady Eddy's pretty accurate. But buy the book. I think Vic Braden's energy and enthusiasm are infectious and can actually be a help!

Braden's big insight was the value of topspin, and he promoted a loop backspin which today's game really doesn't permit you time to execute.

His positivity and can-do spirit is well worth the price of the book.
 

teotjunk

Rookie
Steady Eddy's pretty accurate. But buy the book. I think Vic Braden's energy and enthusiasm are infectious and can actually be a help!

Braden's big insight was the value of topspin, and he promoted a loop backspin which today's game really doesn't permit you time to execute.

His positivity and can-do spirit is well worth the price of the book.

I already have the book. I am now wondering whether to get his DVDs


teotjunk
 

burosky

Professional
It all depends on the reader. Some find it helpful, some find it useless. It seems like his main "schtick" is debunking common instructions like having proper footwork, etc...
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
... Vic Braden...

The only criticism I might list is that I think he over-emphasizes topspin. I think weekend players don't need it, they don't generate alot of racquet head speed, so gravity will pull the ball down into the court. Topspin just makes them mishit even more shots. Topspin is for the really good players.

I don't believe that topspin can be really be over-emphasized for novice and intermediate players. Topspin is for players of all levels. However, very heavy topspin, especially with a Western grip, should not be employed by novice & low intermediate players.

teotjunk, have you checked out the free videos and articles at Will H's FuzzyYellowBalls.com site? Lot of good step-by-step instruction and slo-mo videos on the site. You can DL his videos, with his blessing, by going to Revver.com and Searching on FYB.
 

teotjunk

Rookie
I don't believe that topspin can be really be over-emphasized for novice and intermediate players. Topspin is for players of all levels. However, very heavy topspin, especially with a Western grip, should not be employed by novice & low intermediate players.

teotjunk, have you checked out the free videos and articles at Will H's FuzzyYellowBalls.com site? Lot of good step-by-step instruction and slo-mo videos on the site. You can DL his videos, with his blessing, by going to Revver.com and Searching on FYB.

I plan to go to Fuzzy Yellowballs.com sometime. But in the mean time I am trying to decide if Oscar Wegner's, Vic Branden or Nick Bollettetieri's training DVDs are worth the purchase. I currently possess Tom Avery's Consistent Tennis wins and the Serve by Jim Parker.


teotjunk
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
I don't believe that topspin can be really be over-emphasized for novice and intermediate players. Topspin is for players of all levels. However, very heavy topspin, especially with a Western grip, should not be employed by novice & low intermediate players.

Even though topspin means using a low-to-high stroke that is harder make solid contact with the ball? At relatively low speeds, like 40 mph, the ball isn't likely to go long anyway? And moderate topspin, makes their shot sit up, so it's easy for their opponent to return? Flatter shots skid more, and those low balls are tricky at the intermediate level.
 

lkdog

Rookie
Fuzzy Yellow Balls is a great site and free. Will cover all the basics of modern stroke production.

Excellent pay sites are Tennis One and Hi Tech Tennis with more detail and different teachers.

The content is constantly updated and you will get detailed instruction from a variety of perspectives.

I prefer the work of teachers such as Dave Smith and Doug King and Jeff Counts over the ones you are considering.

Just my opinion.
 

Bungalo Bill

G.O.A.T.
What about Vic Branden or Nick Bolletieri ? . What do you think of their DVDs ?



teotjunk

My library is full of books, tapes, and DVD's of some of the best coaches around. I do not agree with everything they say and when I disagree in one area, I often agree with another coach in that area to round out my knowledge of the fundamentals and the game itself.

I have read all of Braden's books and I like them to a point. I do not like his strategy books. All authors of tennis books have weaknesses in their books and all of them do not have the magic bullet when it comes to tennis instruction.

As far as Wegner is concerned, it is not that I dislike his instruction so much, it is the way he takes credit for himself. However, I do think some of his teaching is bunk and would work well for beginners and not so well for advanced players and strong intermediates.
 

Bungalo Bill

G.O.A.T.
Fuzzy Yellow Balls is a great site and free. Will cover all the basics of modern stroke production.

Excellent pay sites are Tennis One and Hi Tech Tennis with more detail and different teachers.

The content is constantly updated and you will get detailed instruction from a variety of perspectives.

I prefer the work of teachers such as Dave Smith and Doug King and Jeff Counts over the ones you are considering.

Just my opinion.

Excellent sites to list. As far as the books you listed, I found one of them disorganized, cumbersome, and complicated to read. It could have been written much better and better organized. The content was there, however, it was a bit hard to read.

I have found that Serious Tennis is a good book.
 

pmata814

Professional
I wish I could get my money back for the money I spent on Wegner. I suggest you invest on something like hitechtennis.com or tennisplayer.net
 

teotjunk

Rookie
I wish I could get my money back for the money I spent on Wegner. I suggest you invest on something like hitechtennis.com or tennisplayer.net

If I invest in hi-techtennis.com and tennisplayer.net (which I eventually plan to do), would it still be wise to invest money in dvds of Vic Bandren and Nick Bollettieri or would it be a waste of money ?



teotjunk
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
You might be able to find some of the contents of Vic Braden's DVDs at your local library in a VHS format. It looks like each DVD is comprised of 4 of those VHS tapes. I believe that many of these tapes were released in the mid-1990s.

It looks like excerpts from the Bollettieri DVDs can be found on YouTube. Here are a few:

youtube.com/watch?v=nynR0StanRc
youtube.com/watch?v=2zRHBjVGOpA
youtube.com/watch?v=Kpj5ZthpxbI

Still encourage you to take a look at the free videos on the FYB site.
 
I have used oscar wegner, tennisplayer.net, Hitechtennis.com, FYB,**********.com, and look-learn.de.

The only one that I felt like I didn't get my money's worth was Oscar Wegner. He does say a few good things to help you simplify your strokes, but it takes so long for him to say what is so simple, and everything else he says you can get in better detail from the other sites and DVD's found
 

pmata814

Professional
If I invest in hi-techtennis.com and tennisplayer.net (which I eventually plan to do), would it still be wise to invest money in dvds of Vic Bandren and Nick Bollettieri or would it be a waste of money ?



teotjunk

I've never seen any Vic Braden videos so I can't comment on them. I've seen some bolletieri videos on the tennis channel and they were pretty good, but you could just pay the fee for hitechtennis.com, which is a good investment regardless, and then decide if you still need the videos or not. Just my opinion.
 

JCo872

Professional
Bollitieri Videos

Nobody has commented on the Bollitieiri videos, so I'll put my opinion out there. I think they are absolutly awesome. There are concepts in the videos which you won't find elsewhere, and he uses top pros to show technique (Malisse for the forehand, Mirnyi for the serve). I think they are "must owns" for anyone serious about learning good technique.
 
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