TheAssassin
Legend
Feels harsh but he shouldn't have put himself in such situation in the first place, at a Slam tournament of all places. What is done is done, can't reverse it. On to clay season.
Trash. Utter Trash. Djoker Should NOT be disqualified
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maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Correct desision by US Open..
Djokovic deserved to be thrown out of US Open ..
As a fan, I am dejected . But the decision to disqualify him is totally correct .
Djokovic deserved to be thrown out of US Open ..
As a fan, I am dejected . But the decision to disqualify him is totally correct .
RVAtennisaddict
Professional
Except it was in their discretion and a week ago when cameraman was hit no penalties at all despite harder ball strike.
Now I think because he is djoker they had to default him or it is playing favoritism. But it sucks.
Now the line woman going down to a “flicked ball” to the back of the court. A little crazy. They get w 120+ mph serves all the time. That was no 100+ mph hit. Prob not even rec level pace. And certainly people do and have done worse Andy haven’t been dq.
E36BMWM3
Hall of Fame
Uhhh that’s apples and oranges. What happened today was 100% justified
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Agreed. Posted this earlier:
Novak has skirted on thin ice a number of times in the past with chucking his racquet into the stands and almost hitting someone. This time it did, albeit it was an angry ball he hit, and he's paid the price. It's unfortunate and it seems he was the one asking that the disqualification rule be respected against the officials who were obviously humming and haaing about what to do so kudos to him for that. Can't be any exceptions made as that would have made the whole situation just look a lot worse.
Edit: Not sure if I got that bit right. That's what the British commentators seemed to think at first but maybe it was the other way round.
Perhaps the decision was a way to punish Novak for starting his players association? Whatever, the Rafa and Federer fans can't accuse Novak of unfairly stealing a slam-LOL!
DonPepe
Rookie
Please.... use your God given common sense. Rules are made for fairness , justice. Dennis Shapo's incident at Davis Cup was warranted.
The lady is fine, the photographer in the Cincinnati Open last week was fine. This is a sham , spoils the game over small minded officiating.
Unjust.
megamind
Legend
in these demanding times, it's a shame he didn't even attend the press conference
DonPepe
Rookie
What did he do again? Was it an accident? Was the ball he hit dangerous? Is the victim ok? And what is Novak's punishment? OK....
3loudboys
G.O.A.T.
Missed an opportunity to do the right thing IMO. Now he appears petulant as well as reckless. Real shame as he is a great player and I think everyone would agree it was unintentional.
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joohan
Guest
I’d say it’s finally interesting again...
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
The current match itself was interesting.
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FRV3
Guest
I appreciate this coming from you since I have called you a Djokovic hater before. I think once the line judge was on the ground trying to breath, it would be pretty hard not to default without a large outcry from the public. I can see why they made the call. It is unfortunate though, he didn't even hit it that hard. He really needs to control his anger in the future as well though, since the one he hit sideways almost hit the sound guy and that could've been a well deserved, no controversy, default had the sound guy got hurt somewhere around the eye socket area...
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yep. I do get it. I just think it is really bad for this tourney, and if he were to lose he should be beat.
FiReFTW
Legend
Lol are you people who say it was not a good call/rule sucks etc serious?
He hit the hall in the freaking throat of a lineswoman, it doesn't MATTER if it was not intentional, are you people serous? You just can't do this.
What if It hit her eye and blinded her?
What if It hit her in the throat more awkwardly? It could have seriously injure her.
What does it matter if the other person didn't mean to? If someone is seriously injured?
He hit the hall in the freaking throat of a lineswoman, it doesn't MATTER if it was not intentional, are you people serous? You just can't do this.
What if It hit her eye and blinded her?
What if It hit her in the throat more awkwardly? It could have seriously injure her.
What does it matter if the other person didn't mean to? If someone is seriously injured?
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FRV3
Guest
Yeah strange tourney. A massive opportunity for those who are left.
Why was Djokovic not given an official "warning" just minutes before when he hit the ball in anger at the fence ? That was obvious and blatant "abuse of ball" ...
Chair Umpire did horrible job of managing the situation on court and should be removed from the tournament immediately.
She let it simmer even after it was obvious after the injury that Djokovic is behaving erratically and should've been given the penalty even before this incident that was (justified) reason for disqualification.
"Warning" at the first "abuse of ball" violation would make him reset his fragile state of mind and that is why it is "warning"/"point"/"game" penalty tier ...
Chair Umpire did horrible job of managing the situation on court and should be removed from the tournament immediately.
She let it simmer even after it was obvious after the injury that Djokovic is behaving erratically and should've been given the penalty even before this incident that was (justified) reason for disqualification.
"Warning" at the first "abuse of ball" violation would make him reset his fragile state of mind and that is why it is "warning"/"point"/"game" penalty tier ...
RVAtennisaddict
Professional
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Of course that he should have been DQed.
It is another matter that that makes the tournament lose even more steam (if that is possible).
It is another matter that that makes the tournament lose even more steam (if that is possible).
MAX PLY
Hall of Fame
The OP is so right. We really should assess whether the injured person was really too frail to dodge or deflect a ball hit by say, any player above 4.0. And if the answer to that question is “No”, then we assess the severity of the injury (or wait on the autopsy results). It’s not like Novak kicked her in the kidneys when he acted concerned and “tried” to lend assistance. At least, he was shrewd enough to avoid the press conference. With as much cash as he has, paying $20k to avoid some awkward, albeit unfair, questions by an inquisitive and potentially abusive media, was the right call.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
now i remember why i couldn't stand this place. i love how djokovic being disqualified makes this a sham tournament, not the fact that its happening in the middle of pandemic in a country that can't get their **** together esp in new york of all places and i say this as someone who lives there, like this tournament was never going to be a normal tournament.
also are we really blaming the woman here and making it seem like she acted or some ****? as if people dont always say aim for the throat when they want to take someone out or w/e like stop trying to downplay the impact, you could hear her gagging too.
also are we really blaming the woman here and making it seem like she acted or some ****? as if people dont always say aim for the throat when they want to take someone out or w/e like stop trying to downplay the impact, you could hear her gagging too.
DonPepe
Rookie
You sir, have common sense!!
AceSalvo
Legend
I saw the video too. There was no need for Djoko to do that especially after Shapo had been DQ for the same. Thats why the DQ rule is there.
The lady was in some serious pain though.
Tmano
Hall of Fame
Is is completely fair that Nole got DS? Maybe not, i actually was shocked because everybody knows he did not mean to hit the judge however, as unfortunate as it is, after all Nole put himself in that position. Not that he intentionally hit the line judge but that was the second time he hit the ball out of anger. First time got away the second time he was very unlucky and he hit the judge.
This event though opens the door up to two very new young finalist which is great!!!
This event though opens the door up to two very new young finalist which is great!!!
-snake-
Hall of Fame
Doesn't matter what we think, it's over.
Why are lines people so old anyway? They remind me of this:
With the ********* going on I thought they were gonna use just younglings.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Rules mandate regular point penalty schedule for this type of stuff (warning -> point penalty -> game penalty)
Officials always have the option to default a player for any violation though, and in this case the lineswoman's reaction to the hit basically sealed Djokovic's fate
N01E
Hall of Fame
AceSalvo
Legend
I think it does matter because if Djoko was not DQ what does one say to Shapo??. Djoko did hit the ball seriously hard with frustration.
Saw that Kramer video a just a week ago. Funny one.
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I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
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The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
Trash. Utter Trash. Djoker Should NOT be disqualified
It was an unfortunate accident, but if you do the crime you must do the time
It was an unfortunate accident, but if you do the crime you must do the time
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Trash. Utter Trash. Djoker Should NOT be disqualified
It was an unfortunate accident, but if you do the crime you must do the time
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
It is fair that he got DQ'ed ... yes !!!
Did the Chair Umpire made a mistake by not giving Djokovic "official warning" just a few minutes earlier (as stipulated by the same "Abuse of Ball" rule) - yes.
Umpires should ALWAYS follow the rules - that is why we have the rules in the first place, to avoid further escalation and unintended consequences ...
Did the Chair Umpire made a mistake by not giving Djokovic "official warning" just a few minutes earlier (as stipulated by the same "Abuse of Ball" rule) - yes.
Umpires should ALWAYS follow the rules - that is why we have the rules in the first place, to avoid further escalation and unintended consequences ...
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
Djokovic has always been a piece of garbage so him firing a ball at a linesperson intentionally doesn’t surprise me. You wouldn’t see this from Federer or Nadal. Shapo and Henman were both disqualified for the same thing.
Serious question, are you drunk or on something?
You're normally a sensible poster, but how does this ruin the entire tournament? Did you bet your house on ********?
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Well... I am.
But that is because I am now in celebratory mode. But to be honest, as much as I did not want Djoker to win, I really wanted to watch Med or Thiem play him in the final. I want the best (which is Djoker) to get beat. The tourney feels like a sham now.
But I will get over it. As tomorrow I will wake up happy.
VashTheStampede
Professional
The video is still there for all to watch. You just can't watch on a site other than youtube (like embedded no this forum). You have to click the link "Watch this video on youtube" to actually go to the youtube site/app itself.
Crazy Finn
Hall of Fame
Frankly, it actually makes it interesting for me, now. Watching Novak kick a bunch of puppies and hoping that some youngster actually pushes him isn't that interesting for me. Now, it's anyone's tournament, and that's interesting.
I would have preferred Novak to outright lose today, as opposed to this, as that would have been more interesting or satisfying. But, whatever, that's that's how it played out.
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
Grow. Up.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I am trying. But it is hard.
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