Steady Eddy
Legend
Isn't Vegas hotter than Phoenix?
Living in cities - Which is best ?
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Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Well low taxing nations can actually stimulate more economic activity and creativity resulting in more taxation collected. High taxing nations either go broke or the talented people leave resulting in higher unemployment and less tax collected.
Bukowski
Professional
I've lived in many different major cities of USA. The factor i've come to prefer is how dense vs sprawling the city is. Not that its an exact science, but in my experience it relates to how quickly and efficeneintly get around to where you need to go. After undergrad i thought about moving to Atlanta, GA or Portland, OR and ultimately chose portland because i can walk or bike most places or rely on mass transit. Although I'm not counting out Atlanta in the future because I love the tennis there.
Bukowski
Professional
No. Phx regularly get 110+ many weeks during July and Aug. I dont plan on going back
Steady Eddy
Legend
But it's a dry heat.No. Phx regularly get 110+ many weeks during July and Aug. I dont plan on going back
Bukowski
Professional
I dont miss getting burned when stepping into my car or the unavoidable back sweat thing when driving. And dont get me started on playing tennis during the day in the summer. Felt like there were 2 suns.
1 above and 1 right below the court surface.
Steady Eddy
Legend
Well, I think it feels good.
I dont miss getting burned when stepping into my car or the unavoidable back sweat thing when driving. And dont get me started on playing tennis during the day in the summer. Felt like there were 2 suns.
1 above and 1 right below the court surface.
Bukowski
Professional
You do you!
Lovely landscape. Miss the cacti.
Steady Eddy
Legend
Take a Siesta in the afternoon.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
And what about Norway’s climate? No much sunlight, isn’t it?
Phoenix is hotter by 10 degrees in Fall- Spring.
Summer is pretty even but Phoenix is a tad more humid and very more humid in August.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
Which category do Norway and Denmark fall into?
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Norway falls within the "we have too much oil and too few people, so it doesn't matter" category.
Denmark is more complex, but they are happy (with high taxes).
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Pretty good assessment. My only reservation is the definition of what makes one happy. There is quite a different lifestyle with say people living in Australia and U.S. and Denmark. Lot of people live in big houses and households and own more then one car compared to Denmark where accommodation tends to be a lot more frugal and this is just an observation on one aspect.Norway falls within the "we have too much oil and too few people, so it doesn't matter" category.
Denmark is more complex, but they are happy (with high taxes).
Would like to hear from someone here who has lived in both countries for a comparison,
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
I wonder which, if any, cities have fairly easy access to tennis courts. Courts not too costly.
I hear Atlanta has too many tennis players, hard to get a court.
I hear Atlanta has too many tennis players, hard to get a court.
Funny the only time I quit tennis was during the 11 months I lived in Atlanta
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
There are some that might argue that ease of obtaining guns, a big car, and a big house is all they need.
Others may care less about material things and care more about experiential things. (juxtoposition intended)
Others may want a tightly controlled society with low crime, low freedom.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Well not everybody who is successful/unsuccessful (Take your pick) and buys a big house and cars wants a gun.
Conversely those who live in a controlled society may have to endure crimes committed against them by aggressive agencies in their society and state if they have other views.
And there are those who are less materialistic and more experiential don't want to take responsibility for their well being and independence. ( but one can't generalise)
The thing is that researchers can skew things to suit their agenda. Look how biased universities and the media can be and also governments in their legislative power to influence society.
At the end of the day if you strip things right back most people are happy if they are free, can be healthy, be teated fairly and have the opportunity to be what they dream to be.
Depending on your point of view some would argue that earning reward for effort is important.
A big thing with all these studies is that size of population and density as mentioned here is a big factor. For example New Zealand, Norway and even Australia are small populations compared to China, India, USA and even Japan and the UK. Even Taiwan, which is smaller than Tasmania has a population bigger than Australia.
People in Sydney complain that it is becoming too populated and with it brings problems of congestion and expensive house prices but some won't move to say Adelaide hecause of family and lack of economic opportunities.
There have ideas of developing regional towns again and connecting them with fast trains but this is usually talk during election time.
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I heard that Denmark is organic country because everything is organic. If so, I should move there and I don’t like poison stuff eg hormone added to the meat. The most important is Denmark ban any dangerous medications such as cymbalta. Unlike aust govt have no clue how dangerous cymbalta is and putting people at risk.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
That's good to hear that Atlanta has lots of tennis players. Either they must be doing something right and/or they need to build more courts.
millicurie999
Semi-Pro
8. United States
Also in the top 10 best countries for: cultural influence, entrepreneurship, power, most forward-looking, most influential, education.
LOL. No..
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
If the U.S. Is not 8th then where do you think they rate. Second thing of interest is what would being "forward looking", constitute because it can mean different things to different people.
As for the education system, depending on your point of view, that could mean different things. Lot of teachers I talk to complain about poor student behaviour and parenting skills and school curriculums moving away from classical education systems of Math, English and Science and instead focusing on the humanities and politics.
Does anyone have a view on this. Would like to hear a variety of viewpoints. Cheers
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Iraq all have much more oil per capita. Norway ranks #33.Norway falls within the "we have too much oil and too few people, so it doesn't matter" category.
Denmark is more complex, but they are happy (with high taxes).
There must be something different about them.. maybe better education and social services that results in better human development? and yes they collect tax to do all that.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
My post was mostly in jest to make the point that what happiness is can vary depending on the person.
e.g.
Some value career sucess and money above family and vice versa.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
All good.
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
Google Wikipedia petroleum reserves by country.Source?
Tennis_Hands
Banned
We are not talking reserves that is why I asked.
We are talking real production, and as far as I know Norway produces more oil per 1000 people than any of the aforementioned.
Of course, you are also correct that there are more important factors to wealth than only natural resources, but underestimating the natural factors for wealth is not very objective.
War, political system, number of population, and many more are all contributing factors to the way the wealth is kept and distributed.
jhick
Hall of Fame
Fellow life long Minnesotan here too. Winters are harsh...I always tell people visiting that Jan/Feb are the worst, outside of that winter is not bad. Four seasons are nice, fall is beautiful with the scenery and my favorite time of the year. My wife doesn't do well in the heat (she grew up on Lake Superior), but that said, we've talked about moving south after my kids are grown. My wife likes Tennessee, but I guess the insects and bugs are terrible there. So I guess that's one good thing about the MN winters, they clean out all of that.
That actually does not change with gun ownership, only that now it is not only the agencies that can bully them, but their neighbors too.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Well I think you have edited posts and taken things out out context here. The poster was making an observation between 3 types of living and made a comparison between a place where there was free gun ownership hence high crime on one extreme and a totallatarian system with high control and low crime rate. The point made in response to this is that these totallatarian systems aren't quite low in crime when you factor in the 45 million people killed in 4 years by one of the leaders of those countries and 6 million from another extreme type.
clout
Hall of Fame
What about Elizabeth, New Jersey?
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Chadillac
Guest
They had like 110 shootings this weekend. Chicago and baltimore are competitive this year.
2good4U
Professional
Chicago bans guns completely, and it's just the most peaceful of cities, isn't it?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/chicago-shootings-monday
movdqa
Talk Tennis Guru
I like a large town or small city with a huge city an hour away. Beaches and mountains are a bonus.
PMChambers
Hall of Fame
Didn't read all comments but lived or been long enough to answer your question with my take,
Sydney -best city to live with 8 figure income. If you're pay exceeds $1, 000,000 year you can have some of the best location on earth with the benefit of 5 mil population next door.
If you earn 6 figures $200,000 below this is a bad city to live.
Melbourne - they have put all their eggs into the CBD and throttled their mid to outter suburbs. If you can afford anywhere 15 - 20 mins from CBD it's great city otherwise your taxes are going elsewhere. Also good if your into AFL. But need to be on public tram route. Crap weather. Need mid 6 figure salary
Adelaide - It's like Melbourne but on a budget. Had nearly everything Melbourne had but cheaper. This is best city for educated service workers. Unfortunately it's losing its lower to middle income sector with closures of manufacturing and no resource section spending.
Brisbane - its weird city mainly because there are areas north and south that are premium. Topography really stuff this city up. I find it strange because of layout and the population spread along the sea board.
Perth - mining and mining support. Nothing else to say this city flutated on resource sector and FIFO. Boom and bust. Kind of another country in outlook. I rarely been there but from what I heard because $$$ in boom can be good
Tassdi - only visited. Lovely place with economic and environmental constraints. It's one of those places where if you can get good $ and like nature and hells cold is good. I like Tassi but it's hard to get good paying work.
Darwin - Don't like it To bloody humid and cyclones come through too often. I can think of many small towns that are better. I work for Darwin based company and the turn over of middle to upper managements is high. Weather good for 8-9 month but hell otherwise. Can think of large towns north of Capricorn that are better
ACT - meh its government If you're not government then better places to be.
So
Depends on what you do and income level. Generally speaking the big cities are only ok if you earn top $, if you work in resources or support your location will be predetermined to a degree. Aust smaller cities area generally better for middle income workers. Big cities make middle income look average If your uneducated work in small cities can be hard to find so maybe bigger cities way to go. In my book if your middle or lower management or income Adelaide and larger non capitals are better.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Honolulu!
spaceman_spiff
Hall of Fame
I moved from the US to Moscow for a couple of years back in 2002. Life is much cheaper there, but you pay the price in other ways. Living there was just one big hassle due to the crushing bureaucracy and widespread corruption. It was the same in St. Petersburg when I was a student, but with the added annoyance of undrinkable tap water and loads of mosquitoes in the summer.
As Hungary becomes more undemocratic and its government gets restructured into a vertical power structure, I wouldn't be surprised to see it becoming more and more like Russia.
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Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Thx for taking the time to express your take, enjoyed the read!
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Thx for your sentiments, interesting read.
spaceman_spiff
Hall of Fame
Another thing you have to remember is that, if you move to a place with a lower cost of living, then you'll most likely see your salary drop. For example, when I moved to Moscow, I wasn't earning what the average American earned at the time; I was being paid what an average Russian earned back in those days.
Even though I got more bang for my buck, I had fewer bucks. So, I wasn't much better off financially speaking than if I had a similar job in my home town.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Yes that is a risk people may face moving to a lower cost area, Sydney has higher wages than Adelaide for instance however I need to assess things right. Biggest cost difference between say Adelaide and Sydney would be the cost of buying a house, Sydney's median over 1 million , Adelaide I'm the mid to high 400's.
