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oldmanfan · Jun 3, 2019

BGod said:
My pick of SF going strong.

I think Stan will be gassed. That was reminiscent of the Murray match in 2017.

Agreed. And bad luck for Stan. It's borderline 'rigging' at this point with how often Fedr lands in Stan's path since AO17.

Before Fedfans hand wringer too much in case a Fedal SF happens, riddle me this. Who do you think Nadl is rooting for to play against, exhausted-Stan or Fedr? Yes it's clay, but the choice is between the guy whom Nadl owns, or the guy whom he lost 5 straight to, and the last 3 without winning a set. To top it off, the last time Nadl met Stan, he ran over him on clay at Madrid19, while the last time Nadl met Fedr, he ducked (don't know how severe the injury was, but probably not more severe than when Fedr chose not to duck and still played Nadl when Fedr had back issues at IW a few years ago).

I'm sending The Old Man good vibes.

We all should.

FatFedererFanTurnsSlim · Jun 3, 2019

Wawrinka 8'25" in the last 2 matches, played 3 days in a row
Nishikori 8'21" in the last 2 matches, played 3 days in a row

First FEDAL SF since AO 14
First FEDAL RG since 2011
is happening people.

MasturB · Jun 3, 2019

MeatTornado said:
Those are some pretty big "ifs."

It's one thing to make Chatrier look like SW19 when you're playing guys ranked in the 60s. In order to win the title, he'll have to go through the 2 best returners on tour. And they'll be damned if they're going to let Fed S&V them to death on clay of all places. Novak shuts that strategy down completely, even on grass. And especially Rafa on clay, who voluntarily lives 100 ft back and will unload on those kickers after they've started coming down, he won't get eaten up by them by standing close and trying to hit them at shoulder height.

Even Thiem in Madrid was wising up to it by the end of the match and started passing him on some big points from what I remember. There's a reason players don't S&V on clay.

Fred has been moving much better on clay at RG than Madrid.

Even the matches he won against Monfils and Gasquet he was not sliding much left or right. And he was moving very cautiously.

At RG he's been moving much smoother and sliding a lot more here.

It's veen progressing from Madrid to Rome and RG.

oldmanfan · Jun 3, 2019

MasturB said:
Im curious as to why one quarter is on Lenglen and other on Chatrier for both men and women.

Don't they have enough time for 4 QF (2 men and 2 women) on chatrier?

I had that thought too. I can only think of the reason as $$ bc if all 4 QFs played on PC, they lose out on a SL's session worth of ticket sales. I'm assuming this is bc RG doesn't have two sessions yet (probably a huge reason they finally will implement lights in 2021(?), to have day/night sessions a la USO/AO, so more $$).

Deleted member 763024 · Jun 3, 2019

MasturB said:
Fred has been moving much better on clay at RG than Madrid.

Even the matches he won against Monfils and Gasquet he was not sliding much left or right. And he was moving very cautiously.

At RG he's been moving much smoother and sliding a lot more here.

It's veen progressing from Madrid to Rome and RG.

Coach what’s your take on how far Rog goes?

I think all this talk of getting to and beating Nadal on Chatrier is a bit far fetched

Poisoned Slice · Jun 3, 2019

What more can you say about him? The observers have told me that he is in great spirits here. His interview yesterday with Mats Wilander made me feel like Roger had his bugs bunny fix. Totally at ease, ya know. It would be foolhardy to write Wawrinka off. He has defeated the grandmaster here before. But this is a different time, different shoes, different racquets, different sponsors, different weather forecast, ya know. I am looking forward to it.

MasturB · Jun 3, 2019

oldmanfan said:
I had that thought too. I can only think of the reason as $$ bc if all 4 QFs played on PC, they lose out on a SL's session worth of ticket sales. I'm assuming this is bc RG doesn't have two sessions yet (probably a huge reason they finally will implement lights in 2021(?), to have day/night sessions a la USO/AO, so more $$).

They've been doing 2 mens and 2 women's matched a day since the start of the tourney.

Just weird for the QF they stop.

Unless they're afraid of matches going over and not getting 4 matches finished in 8 hours.

Rogfan · Jun 4, 2019

I can totally see a Fedal semi now. Our champ will beat the bull and redeem himself after all those losses. Unfortunately he will then go down in four in the final against a very determined and focused Djoker. It continues I RG that those who beat Nadal won’t win the title

oldmanfan · Jun 4, 2019

Ann said:
I think you're all setting yourself up for disappointment.

Maybe we're just expecting a RG loss, but hopeful of a RG win. As long as it's not zero...

TearTheRoofOff · Jun 4, 2019

oldmanfan said:
He likes Fedr.
He just does.
Another Fedfan, added years ago.

Genuinely lolled at the bluntness of the first question.

oldmanfan · Jun 4, 2019

TearTheRoofOff said:
Genuinely lolled at the bluntness of the first question.

Yea, that was too rough on poor kid-Stef.

JoshuaPim · Jun 4, 2019

Ann said:
I think you're all setting yourself up for disappointment.

Badabing888 said:
No player with a single handed backhand is beating Rafa on PC. Too much of a disadvantage and Rafa will just wear them down over 5 sets on that side. That is his get out jail free card and especially on PC he’ll know either Stan or Roger will cough up a short ball eventually to take control of the rally. This is not Rod Laver arena.

This is supposed to be for Fed news only. Discussions should be held over on the General thread.

FatFedererFanTurnsSlim · Jun 4, 2019

I hope Federer serves like he did in the Finger Wag match. IIRC he had 19 aces & 6 service winners. Mad, mad numbers given the surface & the opponent.

Rogfan · Jun 4, 2019

No match thread for Fed vs Wawa??

Badabing888 · Jun 4, 2019

Check the Pro match results and discussions section.

Rogfan · Jun 4, 2019

Points are relatively quick and Roger just won a 100-rally point on Stan’s serve. So far it seems Roger wants to practise his baseline game.

Rogfan · Jun 4, 2019

Sorry I must have put the OP who created match thread on ignore. Mistakenly perhaps

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

I'm not going to survive the next hour.

BeatlesFan · Jun 4, 2019

Ann said:
I'm not going to survive the next hour.

You didn't think he would even make the QF's, look at it like that.

But it's true, since the Stan match is so tight, it's impossible not to get your stomach tied into knots. I just wish it was over without the waiting.

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
You didn't think he would even make the QF's, look at it like that. But it's true, since the Stan match is so tight, it's impossible not to get your stomach tied into knots. I just wish it was over without the waiting.

Exactly. I have low expectations but the Rog is holding his own (and better) you get your hopes up. I hate having hopes....

Lleytonstation · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
You didn't think he would even make the QF's, look at it like that. But it's true, since the Stan match is so tight, it's impossible not to get your stomach tied into knots. I just wish it was over without the waiting.

Even if he pulls it out, I don't know how I will get through watching him play Nadal.

Poisoned Slice · Jun 4, 2019

The evil weather, ya know. Yeah! Fantastic match, fantastic match, tremendous. You can say Federer wasted some break points but there was some great saves from Wawrinka as well. Federer did get a break when he needed it most. He has the edge but Stan has been with him on this day. Look forward to the conclusion.

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

Lleytonstation said:
Even if he pulls it out, I don't know how I will get through watching him play Nadal.

I stand no illusion that Roger can hang with Ralph anymore, not even this Ralph who's a different Ralph than we're used to. I expect a straight set victory IF (huge if) they meet.

BeatlesFan · Jun 4, 2019

Lleytonstation said:
Even if he pulls it out, I don't know how I will get through watching him play Nadal.

I know what you mean. We all know Roger has possibly a 15% chance against Nadal and he's expected to lose fairly easily. But the nerves will be there, even with an anticipated defeat. And who knows? If Goffin can take a set off Nadal, Fed should be able to do the same, if not more. But if he brings the strategy he's using against Stan (baseline bashing), he has absolutely no chance. His only chance is mixing it up and keeping the rallies short, even if that means many UE's. Never give Rafa any rhythm.

Stilljonesing · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
I know what you mean. We all know Roger has possibly a 15% chance against Nadal and he's expected to lose fairly easily. But the nerves will be there, even with an anticipated defeat. And who knows? If Goffin can take a set off Nadal, Fed should be able to do the same, if not more. But if he brings the strategy he's using against Stan (baseline bashing), he has absolutely no chance. His only chance is mixing it up and keeping the rallies short, even if that means many UE's. Never give Rafa any rhythm.

Nadal hasn't beat Fed since 2014. That has to play in the psyche some as well, also Nadal has been smoked the last 3 times, 4 really if you count what was coming before he withdrew. I'd put the chances of winning higher than 15% today. I know that's about what it is historically but I'd say more like double that. 30%

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
I know what you mean. We all know Roger has possibly a 15% chance against Nadal and he's expected to lose fairly easily. But the nerves will be there, even with an anticipated defeat. And who knows? If Goffin can take a set off Nadal, Fed should be able to do the same, if not more. But if he brings the strategy he's using against Stan (baseline bashing), he has absolutely no chance. His only chance is mixing it up and keeping the rallies short, even if that means many UE's. Never give Rafa any rhythm.

Roger needs to serve underhand like Kyrgios did and really pizz off Ralph and then giggle at his tirade. Don't know if it will help him win a game but it would crack me up.

Lleytonstation · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
I know what you mean. We all know Roger has possibly a 15% chance against Nadal and he's expected to lose fairly easily. But the nerves will be there, even with an anticipated defeat. And who knows? If Goffin can take a set off Nadal, Fed should be able to do the same, if not more. But if he brings the strategy he's using against Stan (baseline bashing), he has absolutely no chance. His only chance is mixing it up and keeping the rallies short, even if that means many UE's. Never give Rafa any rhythm.

I know, why does Fed do this in matches. He thinks he can still hit with these guys. Then again on Clay it's much tougher to be aggressive.

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

Lleytonstation said:
I know, why does Fed do this in matches. He thinks he can still hit with these guys. Then again on Clay it's much tougher to be aggressive.

He may be able to still hit with most/all of them on grass but clay is quicksand to ancient legs.

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

@BeatlesFan

Help me.

BeatlesFan · Jun 4, 2019

Ann said:
@BeatlesFan

Help me.

I was the most nervous during this Stan match as I have been since the AO 2017 final. But Roger has 720 points for reaching the semi and he has a slim chance against Rafa. It will not be a blow out. This tournament has been amazing for the old man.

Boom-Boom · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
I was the most nervous during this Stan match as I have been since the AO 2017 final. But Roger has 720 points for reaching the semi and he has a slim chance against Rafa. It will not be a blow out. This tournament has been amazing for the old man.

Roger in da place @38 yo

Lleytonstation · Jun 4, 2019

Everybody:

TheIntrovert · Jun 4, 2019

I couldn’t care less what happens on Friday. Reaching the semis and going down to Nadal is no small feat. Has been a wonderful clay season. I admit I was part of the crowd that was wary of him playing. But this has put him in very good shape for Wimbledon. Momentum is there, and groundstrokes has a lot of practice. And with the frame of mind feds been in since 2017, I dont think a loss will hurt him as much mentally as it did during his peak. Points don’t hurt either of course. Of course a win would be dreamy, but it’s so unlikely I’m not bothered.

BeatlesFan · Jun 4, 2019

TheIntrovert said:
I couldn’t care less what happens on Friday. Reaching the semis and going down to Nadal is no small feat. Has been a wonderful clay season. I admit I was part of the crowd that was wary of him playing. But this has put him in very good shape for Wimbledon. Momentum is there, and groundstrokes has a lot of practice. And with the frame of mind feds been in since 2017, I dont think a loss will hurt him as much mentally as it did during his peak. Points don’t hurt either of course. Of course a win would be dreamy, but it’s so unlikely I’m not bothered.

Very well said. But it's still hard not to get tied into knots on Friday when they play, even with the likely outcome.

Lleytonstation · Jun 4, 2019

TheIntrovert said:
I couldn’t care less what happens on Friday. Reaching the semis and going down to Nadal is no small feat. Has been a wonderful clay season. I admit I was part of the crowd that was wary of him playing. But this has put him in very good shape for Wimbledon. Momentum is there, and groundstrokes has a lot of practice. And with the frame of mind feds been in since 2017, I dont think a loss will hurt him as much mentally as it did during his peak. Points don’t hurt either of course. Of course a win would be dreamy, but it’s so unlikely I’m not bothered.

True, it has been a great and fun run. But, Fed might find a way to make it close, and if he does, he will give us hope. I don't want hope unless it comes with a win. Hope is terrifying.

Deleted member 762343 · Jun 4, 2019

TheIntrovert said:
I couldn’t care less what happens on Friday. Reaching the semis and going down to Nadal is no small feat. Has been a wonderful clay season. I admit I was part of the crowd that was wary of him playing. But this has put him in very good shape for Wimbledon. Momentum is there, and groundstrokes has a lot of practice. And with the frame of mind feds been in since 2017, I dont think a loss will hurt him as much mentally as it did during his peak. Points don’t hurt either of course. Of course a win would be dreamy, but it’s so unlikely I’m not bothered.

Yep. He exceeded my expectations, doesn’t matter whether he wins or loses the next match. Incredible from Goaterer.

Poisoned Slice · Jun 4, 2019

Roger Federer was the guy out there today. What a joy it is to have him back playing here. Has he been studying the secret clay texts that were published in the 1st century? hahahaha Now it is the greatest test in tennis. Rafa Nadal at Roland Garros. Anthony Joshua was knocked out this past weekend. This would be an even bigger upset I feel. It has been a long time since their last encounter here. Head is telling me Nadal will win in less than 5 sets.

TheIntrovert · Jun 4, 2019

Poisoned Slice said:
Roger Federer was the guy out there today. What a joy it is to have him back playing here. Has he been studying the secret clay texts that were published in the 1st century? hahahaha Now it is the greatest test in tennis. Rafa Nadal at Roland Garros. Anthony Joshua was knocked out this past weekend. This would be an even bigger upset I feel. It has been a long time since their last encounter here. Head is telling me Nadal will win in less than 5 sets.

How many stars you give him?

Poisoned Slice · Jun 4, 2019

TheIntrovert said:
How many stars you give him?

Roger Federer is one of those guys that breaks the rating system.

Plamen1234 · Jun 4, 2019

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1135961074019311622

Otacon · Jun 4, 2019

@oldmanfan @BeatlesFan @Ann and other dear Fedfans, What would be your reaction if Fed wins on Friday ?

TheMaestro1990 · Jun 4, 2019

Otacon said:
@oldmanfan @BeatlesFan @Ann and other dear Fedfans, What would be your reaction if Fed wins on Friday ?

For sure will be an ombillibable reaction, no?

BeatlesFan · Jun 4, 2019

Otacon said:
What would be your reaction if Fed wins on Friday ?

It would actually eclipse the MP at the 2017 AO in terms of delirium and ecstasy.

BeatlesFan · Jun 4, 2019

Roger just said to Swiss media: "If I'm back on clay, it's to play Rafa". Reverse psychology or genuine truth? Good to hear to him saying it regardless.

AceSalvo · Jun 4, 2019

Incredible Old-erer. Busy setting up new records.

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
Roger just said to Swiss media: "If I'm back on clay, it's to play Rafa". Reverse psychology or genuine truth? Good to hear to him saying it regardless.

The fact that he has the balls to say it says he feels good.

Ann · Jun 4, 2019

BeatlesFan said:
It would actually eclipse the MP at the 2017 AO in terms of delirium and ecstasy.

AO 2017 I think I just cried.

FatFedererFanTurnsSlim · Jun 4, 2019

Fedr's ToC is actually 14 minutes less than Wapha's despite the (half) marathon

Fedr: 1'41" 1'36" 2'11" 1'42" 3'35"=10'45"
Nadl: 1'51" 2'13" 2'49" 2'9" 1'57" = 10'59"

Did not expect Stan to hang in like that. I thought he'd go to pieces after losing the 1st set. Good test of ground game. WIM 14 & 15 were too easy until the final & he couldn't cope with the higher stakes especially in 15.

Zero, literally, zero expectations on Friday. Just happy to see him play 6 matches in a slam after so long.

ghostofMecir · Jun 4, 2019

It’s nice to see a match like this go Federer’s way. He outplayed Stan thoughout the match, but found himself in a very close match in the fourth, and these types of matches in slams (and other places) have hurt him.

Break points converted: Fed, 2/18, Stan—2/5
Receiving points won: Fed—63, Stan—44
Total points won: Fed—168, Stan—152

This very easily could have been a straightforward, straight sets win and should have been. Federer controlled his serve games throughout and put pressure on Stan’s serve throughout. Federer has only been broken 3 times the entire tournament. Honestly, other than the points played on break point, Federer dominated him.

Im(moral) Winner · Jun 4, 2019

FatFedererFanTurnsSlim said:
Fedr's ToC is actually 14 minutes less than Wapha's despite the (half) marathon

Fedr: 1'41" 1'36" 2'11" 1'42" 3'35"=10'45"
Nadl: 1'51" 2'13" 2'49" 2'9" 1'57" = 10'59"

Did not expect Stan to hang in like that. I thought he'd go to pieces after losing the 1st set. Good test of ground game. WIM 14 & 15 were too easy until the final & he couldn't cope with the higher stakes especially in 15.

Zero, literally, zero expectations on Friday. Just happy to see him play 6 matches in a slam after so long.

One should look at points played/energy spent, because of RAFA's time wasting

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