Two similar Wimbledon championship points for Federer (2019 and 2012). Different Outcomes
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GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, big difference playing Murray and Nole.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Actually i thought the shot was going out when Novak hit it and thought history repeats after 7 years. So identical.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Also both the serve and the first FH was better against Murray . Let us not simply blame Murray here.
AceSalvo
Legend
The difference is that the serve spot against Djoko was bad (it was first serve in). Also the return shot from Fed against Murray was closer to the side line. If Fed was able to get the same placement against Djoko, he would have time to finish it at the net. So the Wimbledon trophy was within reach by a matter of mere inches.
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AceSalvo
Legend
yep, cramped himself I think. He was late to get to his right against Djoko.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
I thought about the similarity of this rally with 2012 MP
I also thought that this was another 9-7 in the 5th.
I also thought that this was another 9-7 in the 5th.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I've done my best to not go back and look at highlights. I remembered the first serve being weak, but I didn't remember just how bad the forehand was.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but he even would've been better off with one of those stupid inside-out fh drop shots he always tries at the worst times.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but he even would've been better off with one of those stupid inside-out fh drop shots he always tries at the worst times.
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OhYes
Guest
Incredible
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
It would not have been a bad play at all.
Mark-Touch
Legend
By the time Djoker hit the ball it was already too late to move.
a) He never should have approached on such a lousy shot.
b) Once he decided to approach, he should go straight to the center of the court, not remain on the side!
upchuck
Hall of Fame
That's incredible. The differences appear so slight: In '12 Federer hit the ball ever a bit closer to the sideline and ever so slightly deeper than he did this year. And Djokovic's first step towards the ball appears to be slightly more explosive than Murray's so that he's better set to hit the ball. Also, Federer charges to the net quicker this year than he did in 2012, perhaps revealing too much too early about his intentions.
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The Guru
Legend
Return was better too actually.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Look at the trajectory of the FH. It is straight up to Novak. It is diagonal from Fed to Murray, making him stretch.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Even Murray's return was not out by much. In fact that time, there were few replays that were showing how much wide the ball went. Was almost close like the AO17
The Guru
Legend
I meant Murray hit a better ROS than Nole if that wasn't clear
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OhYes
Guest
Yes but he could do that against Murray because there was less pressure.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
I am not sure if that comes into play. Fed would have had the same intensity both times. It was just 1 break there as well and it was a 40-30 point.
upchuck
Hall of Fame
Yeah, Federer just didn't get enough width on the shot this time.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Well, it went out. It was a makeable shot for Murray too.
The Guru
Legend
The return of serve went in the passing shot went out...
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Sorry, my bad.
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OhYes
Guest
Fed was leading 2-1 in sets. Further more Djokovic already did that to him, Murray didn't. And when you play more than 4 hours and you get that in 16th game of 5th set, you can not be super steady and effective.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
The intensity on championship point can't be much lesser.
AceSalvo
Legend
Fed froze right there. Should have proceeded with the run to the net but instead changed his mind. Too late by then.
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OhYes
Guest
Than it is opponent who is not intimidating enough.
You know well Sunday was nerve wrecking. Fed is still human.
Jokervich
Hall of Fame
Difference between Murray and Djokovic - Djokovic owns Federer and will finish as the all time greatest player ever.
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