USO and RG 2020 - Rafa and Nole
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GoldenMasters
Semi-Pro
Novak will win both 
Atennisone
Hall of Fame
It's almost like I'd prefer Zverev for both instead
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Both sides should happily sign for that.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Because....?
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Imagine Timmy beats Rafa at RG but loses to Novak in the final.
Then beats Novak in NY but loses to Rafa in the final.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
These guys are so out of shape that this is the best year for all the dark horses to win one or even start to take over the tour. guys like Thiem, Stepanoe, and Sasha. or maybe not sasha...… anyway this is Thiem's chance to sneak one out of RAFA before he retires. Dom better have been training, big time
K-H
Hall of Fame
You say that, but Nadal did beat Djokovic twice in the finals, 2 out of 4 times he won the event.
125downthemiddle
Banned
I would since it guarantees Novak a slam.
However if I could pick I'd rather he win USO and Nadal wins RG.
However if I could pick I'd rather he win USO and Nadal wins RG.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic already won 1 RG with a cakewalk draw, you want him to win another one?
K-H
Hall of Fame
Is that mainly because you don't want to see nadal have a 2 slam gap over to Djokovic at the USO. Especially considering novaks considered the HC specialist
TheAssassin
Legend
No. Djokovic underachieved at the US Open while one RG is about right. And don't get me started on how much VamosBrigade would spawn in this place if Nadal actually shared a USO title record lol.
125downthemiddle
Banned
I think both sides would be happy with that:
-Nadal gets another Major off of clay, ties pulls to within 1 of the record 5 U.S. Open titles held by a few players, and gets his 20th Major to tie Federer; and
-Djokovic gets the double career Slam, remains 2 Majors behind Nadal, and pulls to within 2 Majors 1 Major of Federer
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junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
That could very well be spot on.
BlueB
Legend
125downthemiddle
Banned
Nadal already has 4 so that in scenario he would tie the record of 5 US Opens held by Fed, Sampras, and Connors.
Oops. Typo. I corrected it.
Oops. I'm off today. Thanks.
victorcruz
Hall of Fame
No, I'd rather Djoko win Wimby and Rafa wins both RG and USO... like last year.
TheAssassin
Legend
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, don’t think that’s how it works.
I can't see the problem here.
Ok, Nadal would be better in 2 slam, Djokovic in 2. And Djokovic would still be better on 2/3 surfaces.
Djokovic would have more weeks#1 and probably YE#1. He has the H2H advantage(Although not in GS).
If he can shorten the distance in the Slam race, he would be considered better than Rafa. 2 GS more are a strong case with the same competition, but it's the same with Rafa winning RG and Nole USO.
I wouldn't give up on a Double Career Grand Slam only to be tied with Rafa in USO titles, without even a record there.
Maybe it's only because i'm not involved in the "Rafa is only a clay courter" narrative(I'm not saying you are), on the contrary I think it's stupid call clay courter someone who won the same non-clay slam of McEnroe, Agassi and Connors and I wouldn't be upsetted if another HC title helps to put an end to it.
125downthemiddle
Banned
It's less against Rafa and more about Nole for me, he would then trail both his rivals 5 to 3 at a HC slam even though I think he is set to be the HC goat. It's a bit of a flaw.
You make a good case though
My wife is a Rafa fan and I think she would prefer Rafa wins USO. It would be incredible for him.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Unspoken is that he hasn't won a single set from Novak in 7 years on a HC in seven matches.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal is the heir apparent to the USO throne. He only needs one more to match Sampras and Fedr and he has every chance of passing them.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Literally nightmare stuff lol.
My countryman Paolo Lorenzi is 39-4 in International Tennis Series.
Jannik Sinner can wait for his slam, it's Paolino time!
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal owning a share of the USO record or owning it outright would be an enormous, perhaps definitive boost to his GOAT claim.
N01E
Hall of Fame
That's not how probability works. Using this logic Fed would be the favourite for USO20.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
would be much happier if they, and Federer, lost in early rounds. Always good to see new faces hoisting trophies.
125downthemiddle
Banned
beard
Legend
Yes, and it stands for period since 2008...
From next 11 USO tournaments he won exactly zero titles...
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Fedr hasn't won the USO since 2008; in that time Nadal has won it 4 times.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
But by your logic 4 is irrelevant. It's more about winning the last 2/3.
If Federer's 5 from 04-08 don't matter, then neither do Nadal's 2010 or 2013 since he's practically a different player at this point.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Fedr did miss one in 2015 so let's say 10-0.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal has won 2 out of the last 3 and he retired injured against in the 2018 SF.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
So 3 time defending champ if we include moral victories
beard
Legend
In 2015 he lost final to Djokovic. You meant 2016 if I recall good.
