School me: Wilson Hyper Carbon Pro Staff Tour 95

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golden chicken

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Longtime Tour 90 user. Picked up a Tour 95 on a whim. It is everything I didn't know I wanted from my Tour 90.

When I opened the box I thought I bought a fake, since it wasn't box beam, but a few minutes of googling showed me I was panicking over nothing. I was under the impression the Tour 95 was from the same mold as the original PS 6.0 95 but with Hyper Carbon and new paint.

Strung it up quickly (Velocity 16 @ 50#) and went for a hit. It's amazing. I want another. Bonus: I don't think my wife knows I bought another racket, since it looks the same as my Tour 90s!

Was there anything to come before/after using the same mold, or should I just scour the big auction site and the wanted here? The 2014 PS 6.1 95 looks like a weird hybrid with a true box beam hoop and elliptical neck, but I've never handled one and I could be wrong.
 
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snoflewis

Legend
are you referring to the black and yellow one? i owned a few back around 2003. it's not really a true "pro staff" in the sense that it doesnt fall in the 6.0 or 6.1 range. at the same time, Wilson sold the HPS 6.1 and the rare HPS 6.0 95.

i recall the feel being pretty decent but it was pretty unstable even at the stock specs of 11.5 oz and 325 sw.
 
Subway Tennis

Subway Tennis

Legend
golden chicken said:
Longtime Tour 90 user. Picked up a Tour 95 on a whim. It is everything I didn't know I wanted from my Tour 90.

When I opened the box I thought I bought a fake, since it wasn't box beam, but a few minutes of googling showed me I was panicking over nothing. I was under the impression the Tour 95 was from the same mold as the original PS 6.0 95 but with Hyper Carbon and new paint.

Strung it up quickly (Velocity 16 @ 50#) and went for a hit. It's amazing. I want another. Bonus: I don't think my wife knows I bought another racket, since it looks the same as my Tour 90s!

Was there anything to come before/after using the same mold, or should I just scour the big auction site and the wanted here? The 2014 PS 6.1 95 looks like a weird hybrid with a true box beam hoop and elliptical neck.
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Very nice frame. I ended up moving mine on because I just couldn't find 3-4 more of the same frame to cycle. I was using it with a full bed of regular Volkl cyclone at 45 but I imagine Velocity is a bit more buttery.
 
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golden chicken

Hall of Fame
snoflewis said:
are you referring to the black and yellow one?
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Yes.

I can see how it might feel unstable against bigger hitters. I may tinker with some lead, but often I can tell right away if a frame NEEDS lead. I don't exactly feel that way about this frame. It's like...maybe it needs 2g somewhere and I'll start at 3 and 9 but that might not be right and it might be barely noticable anyway.

The balance is dead on my preferred spec at 7pts HL. I was hitting shots and apologizing for them going long as soon as I hit them and my wife said, "No, that was IN," multiple times. I was able to generate spin I wish I could with my Tour 90, and my serves felt like they had both more pop and more spin. And when I uncorked a flat forehand drive it felt great.

Are the later Pro Staff 95 and Pro Staff 95 BLX similar enough frames? I see the swingweight is way down on those, but the rest of the specs seem very close.
 
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what_army

what_army

Semi-Pro
golden chicken said:
Longtime Tour 90 user. Picked up a Tour 95 on a whim. It is everything I didn't know I wanted from my Tour 90.

When I opened the box I thought I bought a fake, since it wasn't box beam, but a few minutes of googling showed me I was panicking over nothing. I was under the impression the Tour 95 was from the same mold as the original PS 6.0 95 but with Hyper Carbon and new paint.

Strung it up quickly (Velocity 16 @ 50#) and went for a hit. It's amazing. I want another. Bonus: I don't think my wife knows I bought another racket, since it looks the same as my Tour 90s!

Was there anything to come before/after using the same mold, or should I just scour the big auction site and the wanted here? The 2014 PS 6.1 95 looks like a weird hybrid with a true box beam hoop and elliptical neck, but I've never handled one and I could be wrong.
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From your description you could have the 6.1 HPS, what’s the string pattern? Although there is also a 6.0 HPS (very rare, so rare that we cannot be sure it isn’t just a 6.0 original with the HPS paintjob) can you post a picture so we can make be sure?
 
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golden chicken

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It's black and yellow like my Tour 90s, with a 16x19 pattern. 20mm beam unlike my n6.1 16x18 and BLX Six.One 16x18. But it's rounded, unlike the 6.0 85, 95, and my Tour 90s.

These are not my pictures, but it's the same.

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Notice the rounded beam, the rounded throat bridge, the sort of regular throat? It's definitely not of the same mold as a 6.0 95 Original.

I found a copy of the original TW review and it says right in the first paragraph that says, "Unlike the Tour 90, which features a flat beam design similar to the Pro Staff Original, the Tour 95 features a rounded beam design - similar to the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 and the Pro Staff ROK. "


I do remember back in the day there were like 7 rackets in Wilson's lineup with nearly the same name. It was definitely confusing.
 
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what_army

what_army

Semi-Pro
I’ve had that same racquet in 90sqin (tour 90) but it had the 17mm width box beam as you mention. The 95 does not seem a 6.1 mold but the beam is indeed similar. Reminds me of a ROK, which also featured an elongated head, but with the longer handle of the tour 90.

I think the really elusive models that go for big bucks are the Tour 95 or HPS 95 with box beam but cool racquet nonetheless.
 
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chrischris

G.O.A.T.
golden chicken said:
It's black and yellow like my Tour 90s, with a 16x19 pattern. 20mm beam unlike my n6.1 16x18 and BLX Six.One 16x18. But it's rounded, unlike the 6.0 85, 95, and my Tour 90s.

These are not my pictures, but it's the same.

Q24ZDq6.jpg

tX1vycc.jpg


Notice the rounded beam, the rounded throat bridge, the sort of regular throat? It's definitely not of the same mold as a 6.0 95 Original.

I found a copy of the original TW review and it says right in the first paragraph that says, "Unlike the Tour 90, which features a flat beam design similar to the Pro Staff Original, the Tour 95 features a rounded beam design - similar to the Hyper Pro Staff 6.1 and the Pro Staff ROK. "


I do remember back in the day there were like 7 rackets in Wilson's lineup with nearly the same name. It was definitely confusing.
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A buddy of mine has this one and is selling it.. Nice racket
 
caesar66

caesar66

Professional
I used to have a pair that I played with for several months. Good frames, could do a little bit of everything. The only problem for me was that I picked up a hyper prostaff 6.1, and at the time, it was sort of an “anything you can do, I can do better” situation compared to the tour 95. That said, if I were to have to choose between the two today, the tour 95 would probably work better for my game. That was the first racquet I ever had strung with a full bed of poly (pro hurricane), and I remember that not feeling great.
 
teachingprotx

teachingprotx

Legend
The rok should have been the greatest racket of my life . But it just couldn’t accept any of my spin attempts no matter what . I dropped the tension in 30’s nothing. I used volkl
V square nothing . No spin . Not really . Not enuff which sucks cause I absolutely love the way it felt in hand I loved the way my hand cradled it in the bridge ready position. Loved the way it swung . Loved the kevlar like feel on impact it really breathes nice on the hit. Plush . Comfy .
but no spin what so ever . Matter Of fact , it’s the only stick I have used that I could hit the ball and literally see the seams on the ball NOT rotate at all . I could see the “Wilson lettering fly straight thru the air and not rotate a true flat ball drive. Incredibly so ...
 
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golden chicken

Hall of Fame
teachingprotx said:
The rok should have been the greatest racket of my life . But it just couldn’t accept any of my spin attempts no matter what . I dropped the tension in 30’s nothing. I used volkl
V square nothing . No spin . Not really . Not enuff which sucks cause I absolutely love the way it felt in hand I loved the way my hand cradled it in the bridge ready position. Loved the way it swung . Loved the kevlar like feel on impact it really breathes nice on the hit. Plush . Comfy .
but no spin what so ever . Matter Of fact , it’s the only stick I have used that I could hit the ball and literally see the seams on the ball NOT rotate at all . I could see the “Wilson lettering fly straight thru the air and not rotate a true flat ball drive. Incredibly so ...
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Let's start a petition for a 16x19 ROK!
 
Ronaldo

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
teachingprotx said:
The rok should have been the greatest racket of my life . But it just couldn’t accept any of my spin attempts no matter what . I dropped the tension in 30’s nothing. I used volkl
V square nothing . No spin . Not really . Not enuff which sucks cause I absolutely love the way it felt in hand I loved the way my hand cradled it in the bridge ready position. Loved the way it swung . Loved the kevlar like feel on impact it really breathes nice on the hit. Plush . Comfy .
but no spin what so ever . Matter Of fact , it’s the only stick I have used that I could hit the ball and literally see the seams on the ball NOT rotate at all . I could see the “Wilson lettering fly straight thru the air and not rotate a true flat ball drive. Incredibly so ...
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String it 14x16, easy peasy
 
frinton

frinton

Professional
what_army said:
I’ve had that same racquet in 90sqin (tour 90) but it had the 17mm width box beam as you mention. The 95 does not seem a 6.1 mold but the beam is indeed similar. Reminds me of a ROK, which also featured an elongated head, but with the longer handle of the tour 90.

I think the really elusive models that go for big bucks are the Tour 95 or HPS 95 with box beam but cool racquet nonetheless.
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I totally agree, the ROK 93 seems to be the little brother of the Tour 95! I wasn’t aware that the PS HC Tour 95 came in 2 string patterns until recently... seems I have the other (18x20) pattern!
Does anyone know why both molds (ROK 93 and PS HC Tour 95) seem to have been very short lived? Did the ROK 93 come with different string patterns as well? And what about the ROK 102? Is the mold similar to the 93, just larger head size or something different all together?
 
LeoFulgencio

LeoFulgencio

Rookie
frinton said:
I suppose Wilson must have produced at least one in that string pattern... I am sorry, I can’t embed the pic in Google Photos... so I have to add links instead!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UxcZUCj4e8xRwGHz9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/BV7o8VLocWYxQeUs6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zJ8pZErkYv8K5jqF8
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I found a thread about your version: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/fake-prostaff-tour-95.181914/

There was also a Pro Staff 6.0 Original 95 with a Pro Staff Tour 95 cosmetic.
 
frinton

frinton

Professional
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GugaClone

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Never liked the ROK but just scored the rare Wilson Hyper ProStaff 6.0 Tour 95 "... same mould as 6.0 95 and never knew if it was just the same stick or if it did have hyper carbon in there... TBH been so long since I hit with the original 6.0 I couldn't tell. Sweet racquet though! I sold it for a pretty penny and always regretted it, happy to have one again... and looking forward to hitting with it! Had some Volkl Cyclone kicking around in 19 gauge, dropped it off at stringer today. Used to have the PS Tour 90 pictured here on thread, but didn't quite get the feel of that one too. It was a very demanding racquet. Other Hyper Carbon stick I do like to hit with, however, is 5.0 95, stretch version not so much though, a bit unwieldy; this past week I pulled out k factor pro tour 96 frame in nice green cosmetics that I added lead to at 3 & 9... feels a lot like the PSC 6.1 but maybe better?
 
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Ronaldo

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
GugaClone said:
Never liked the ROK but just scored the rare Wilson Hyper ProStaff 6.0 Tour 95 "... same mould as 6.0 95 and never knew if it was just the same stick or if it did have hyper carbon in there... TBH been so long since I hit with the original 6.0 I couldn't tell. Sweet racquet though! I sold it for a pretty penny and always regretted it, happy to have one again... and looking forward to hitting with it! Had some Volkl Cyclone kicking around in 19 gauge, dropped it off at stringer today. Used to have the PS Tour 90 pictured here on thread, but didn't quite get the feel of that one too. It was a very demanding racquet. Other Hyper Carbon stick I do like to hit with, however, is 5.0 95, stretch version not so much though, a bit unwieldy; this past week I pulled out k factor pro tour 96 frame in nice green cosmetics that I added lead to at 3 & 9... feels a lot like the PSC 6.1 but maybe better?
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Still have a new HPS 5.0 95. Regret selling a pr of HPS 6.0 95, gorgeous with that leather grip. No longer worthy of either. Can barely lift a fork, a players racquet, forgetaboutit!
 
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GugaClone

New User
Ronaldo said:
Still have a new HPS 5.0 95. Regret selling a pr of HPS 6.0 95, gorgeous with that leather grip. No longer worthy of either. Can barely lift a fork, a players racquet, forgetaboutit!
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A few reps a day with that fork and you'll be back in business! Very customizable frame (the HPS 6.0 95) so you can match it to your preferences... keep on swinging!
 
Ronaldo

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
GugaClone said:
A few reps a day with that fork and you'll be back in business! Very customizable frame (the HPS 6.0 95) so you can match it to your preferences... keep on swinging!
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Not so sure. May be the only person to lose 20# this past year. Suggested I lose 5 more. Covid 20?????????????????
 
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golden chicken

Hall of Fame
V7 Blade 16x19 looks to have similar specs if you account for additional weight due to adding a leather grip and/or increasing the grip size...and assuming you get one on spec.

Can anyone compare the two?
 
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snoflewis

Legend
Ive tried the v7 18x20 and the CV 16x19. If the blades are more modern versions of the wilson 6.1 95, then the tour 95 plays and feels like a crappy copy of the 6.1 95 without any of its positives.

if the tour95 intrigues you, the racket you should really be looking at is the ultra pro 16x19. It's a much more stable frame in stock form with good feel
 
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golden chicken

Hall of Fame
That is a great looking racket.

I never gelled with the 6.1 hyper carbon 95s or any of their descendants, either but I sometimes wonder if I would enjoy a PS 6.0 95.
 
McGradey

McGradey

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I love the Hyper Carbon paintjobs; they all remind me of my teenage years when this line was all the rage—I always wanted one.
A buddy still hits with the orange one, 5.2, specs are kind of like a precursor to the Blade, with low static and high swingweight.

That red/black 6.0 above is tough
 
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