2021 RG was the greatest tournament win in tennis history

Madinolf · Jul 25, 2021

Reasons:

1) decisive for the Slam title race. Should've been 21-18 Nadal.
2) no one had ever won the RG by beating Nadal
3) came back from 0-2 twice (vs Tsitsipas and Musetti)
4) Tsitsipas had a wonderful clay season and was #1 in the Race
5) Berrettini from the Roland Garros to Wimbledon lost only to Djokovic

Deleted member 779124 · Jul 25, 2021

Legacy wise it may well be.

MichaelNadal · Jul 25, 2021

Greatest in history? Not even close. However it may end up being the most IMPORTANT yes.

ForehandCross · Jul 25, 2021

Gotta give credit where credit is due. After such a mentally and physically draining match against Rafael, Djokovic mounting a comeback post 0-2 down in the final was legendary.

The Musseti match was meh though because Djokovic really didn't have to do much.

AnOctorokForDinner · Jul 25, 2021

loo doing loo things

TearTheRoofOff · Jul 25, 2021

One man's comeback is another man's capitulation/injury/wilt.

Nadal_King · Jul 25, 2021

Another point beating rafa being 1-0 down at rg is also a first and imo even tougher than being 2-0 down against others

Oceans II · Jul 25, 2021

Beating Nadal alone almost makes it the greatest and it's a credit to Nadal for how invincible he has been at RG. Federer, Thiem, Ferrer, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, etc all came throughout the years and perished.

maratha_warrior · Jul 25, 2021

I watched those matches again a few times.

4th round - 5sets
Quarters - tough 3.5 hour 4 setter with berritini
Semis - tough 4+ hour 4 setter with ClayGoat
Finals - Tough 4+ hour 5 setter with Tsisipas .

Berritini , Nadal , Tsisipas all won Clay court Tournaments and were in-form players .

RG 21 was historic

❤

MichaelNadal · Jul 25, 2021

Oceans II said:
Beating Nadal alone almost makes it the greatest and it's a credit to Nadal for how invincible he has been at RG. Federer, Thiem, Ferrer, Murray, Wawrinka, Del Potro, etc all came throughout the years and perished.

A credit to Nadal's decline you mean

Roman Reigns didn't beat peak Undertaker

Oceans II · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
A credit to Nadal's decline you mean

3 weeks prior and I have full confidence Rafa will be back next year.

MichaelNadal · Jul 25, 2021

Oceans II said:
3 weeks prior and I have full confidence Rafa will be back next year.

He better be back. Rome was definitely nice given Nadal's hard draw, but it still wasn't classic Rafa. He needs a little more next year, he could and should have lost to Baepo and Tsitsipas this clay season.

Cortana · Jul 25, 2021

Till now. Maybe there will be a USO final with Nadal and Djokovic.

NAS · Jul 25, 2021

2001 Wimbledon baby or 2001 usopen because of Sampras run and Hewitt win, or may be 2002 us open with Sampras dream ending victory

NAS · Jul 25, 2021

But for Novak RG 2021 was great, 16 hours approx from 4th round to final (3hours 51 min on average per match) , anybody else would have broken down, Novak the iron man

Biotic · Jul 25, 2021

Rome defeat was a blessing in disguise for Djokovic. Every Mordor resident including @MichaelNadal was expecting some tasty bakery products vs Tiredovic, but it turned out to be a tight match that may have given Djoko the belief he can beat Nadal at RG.

I'm a bit salty about 2019 and 2021 Rome, both won over Tiredovic, but 2021 RG made it more than bearable.

Overall yeah, weak era or not, to do it at 34 was nothing short of legendary.

MichaelNadal · Jul 25, 2021

Biotic said:
Rome defeat was a blessing in disguise for Djokovic. Every Mordor resident including @MichaelNadal was expecting some tasty bakery products vs Tiredovic, but it turned out to be a tight match that may have given Djoko the belief he can beat Nadal at RG.

I'm a bit salty about 2019 and 2021 Rome, both won over Tiredovic, but 2021 RG made it more than bearable.

Overall yeah, weak era or not, to do it at 34 was nothing short of legendary.

Lol no I wasn't. I was telling all the Ultronians he never runs out of energy and he wouldn't be tired, bc yall were parading that excuse around before the match (and he wasn't.... *shocker*)

NAS · Jul 25, 2021

Cortana said:
Till now. Maybe there will be a USO final with Nadal and Djokovic.

That will be huge, may be the greatest anticipated match in the history

NAS · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
Lol no I wasn't. I was telling all the Ultronians he never runs out of energy and he wouldn't be tired, bc yall were parading that excuse around before the match (and he wasn't.... *shocker*)

Yeah I remember that, but he was indeed tired after playing long matches

MichaelNadal · Jul 25, 2021

NAS said:
Yeah I remember that, but he was indeed tired after playing long matches

Djokovic was not tired lol. He said he wasn't either, not that it matters bc he never is.

NAS · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
Djokovic was not tired lol. He said he wasn't either, not that it matters bc he never is.

Well he really respect Rafa to say this( case against Fed may have been different), but comeon he really played two long matches and next day was the final

El_Yotamo · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal · Jul 25, 2021

NAS said:
Well he really respect Rafa to say this( case against Fed may have been different), but comeon he really played two long matches and next day was the final

Biotic · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
Lol no I wasn't. I was telling all the Ultronians he never runs out of energy and he wouldn't be tired, bc yall were parading that excuse around before the match (and he wasn't.... *shocker*)

MichaelNadal said:
Hoping for a 3.5hr match

MichaelNadal said:
I want all of Djokovics matches to be as long as possible every one. For the rest of his career

MichaelNadal said:
I hope Nadal reduces Djokovic to ashes today lol.

maratha_warrior · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
A credit to Nadal's decline you mean Roman Reigns didn't beat peak Undertaker

Nadal won 13 games in a row going from Quarters to semis against good clay players Schwartzman and Djokovic , and was leading 5-0 against Djokovic , then Nadal suddenly and shocking declined by 20 years and went on to lose the match .
So sad bruh

Madinolf · Jul 25, 2021

maratha_warrior said:
Nadal won 13 games in a row going from Quarters to semis against good clay players Schwartzman and Djokovic , and was leading 5-0 against Djokovic , then Nadal suddenly and shocking declined by 20 years and went on to lose the match .
So sad bruh

That's the sudden decline that hits Fedal over night.

Remember Federer fans all super confident after the semis of Wimbledon 2015 and 2019?

maratha_warrior · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
Lol no I wasn't. I was telling all the Ultronians he never runs out of energy and he wouldn't be tired, bc yall were parading that excuse around before the match (and he wasn't.... *shocker*)

On TTW RG thread , You were cheering Nadal to " kill him /destroy him " after Nadal was 5-0 up in first set . Liar

maratha_warrior · Jul 25, 2021

Madinolf said:
That's the sudden decline that hits Fedal over night.

Remember Federer fans all super confident after the semis of Wimbledon 2015 and 2019?

But atleast , Fed is 5-6 years elder to Djokodal .

Nadal and Djoker are almost same age .( 11 months ) .
How does Nadal get old and decline but Novak doesn't ??

Oceans II · Jul 25, 2021

IMO, it was still a very very good version of Nadal that would beat the whole field except Djokovic. Technically sound as before, just lacking the fitness and mentality because of COVID to go 5 hours with Djokovic.

weakera · Jul 25, 2021

Oceans II said:
IMO, it was still a very good version of Nadal that would beat the whole field except Djokovic. Just lacking the fitness and mentality because of COVID to go 5 hours with Djokovic.

It was literally the worst clay version of Nadal in his entire career by games and sets won percentage. By far.

RF-18 · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
Lol no I wasn't. I was telling all the Ultronians he never runs out of energy and he wouldn't be tired, bc yall were parading that excuse around before the match (and he wasn't.... *shocker*)

Lmao. You were totally expecting a Nadal victory and nothing else. Lets stop while we can shall we

RF-18 · Jul 25, 2021

weakera said:
It was literally the worst clay version of Nadal in his entire career by games and sets won percentage. By far.

But you had no problem before the match to play down Djokovic and try to convince everyone he isn't as good as he has looked, especially on serve.

You too need to just admit you never saw this coming. You were totally expecting Nadal to emerge victorious and once he didn't you changed tune.

weakera · Jul 25, 2021

RF-18 said:
But you had no problem before the match to play down Djokovic and try to convince everyone he isn't as good as he has looked, especially on serve.

You too need to just admit you never saw this coming. You were totally expecting Nadal to emerge victorious and once he didn't you changed tune.

Why do you have such a difficult time comprehending statistics and facts? Stop trying to inject subjectivity or opinion into this. It was Nadal's worst clay season ever by games and sets won percentage - by far. That is a fact. Clearly worse than even 2015. Djokovic's form was far from impressive, he merely put a terrible Nadal out of his misery. My believing Nadal had or would flip the switch has no bearing on facts.

daphne · Jul 25, 2021

Madinolf said:
Reasons:

1) decisive for the Slam title race. Should've been 21-18 Nadal.
2) no one had ever won the RG by beating Nadal
3) came back from 0-2 twice (vs Tsitsipas and Musetti)
4) Tsitsipas had a wonderful clay season and was #1 in the Race
5) Berrettini from the Roland Garros to Wimbledon lost only to Djokovic

Do not forget that Fedr surrendered because he shat a brick.

RF-18 · Jul 25, 2021

weakera said:
It was literally the worst clay version of Nadal in his entire career by games and sets won percentage. By far.

No it wasn't. He had worse games won percentage in 2006, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015. Then there were some years where it was better by far and some years where he was very similar to 2021.

In terms of sets, yea obviously it's gonna be a little worse since he lost a match. And bar the Djoko match, he only lost 1 set.

beard · Jul 25, 2021

TearTheRoofOff said:
One man's comeback is another man's capitulation/injury/wilt.

Lol, you suck in tennis knowledge...

daphne · Jul 25, 2021

maratha_warrior said:
Nadal won 13 games in a row going from Quarters to semis against good clay players Schwartzman and Djokovic , and was leading 5-0 against Djokovic , then Nadal suddenly and shocking declined by 20 years and went on to lose the match .
So sad bruh

That's what happens to old men.

weakera · Jul 25, 2021

RF-18 said:
Not it wasn't. He had worse games won percentage in 2006, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2015. Then there were some years where it was better by far and some years where he was very similar to 2021.

In terms of sets, yea obviously it's gonna be a little worse since he lost a match. And bar the Djoko match, he only lost 1 set.

Try reading and comprehending my post again.

daphne · Jul 25, 2021

weakera said:
Why do you have such a difficult time comprehending statistics and facts? Stop trying to inject subjectivity or opinion into this. It was Nadal's worst clay season ever by games and sets won percentage - by far. That is a fact. Clearly worse than even 2015. Djokovic's form was far from impressive, he merely put a terrible Nadal out of his misery. My believing Nadal had or would flip the switch has no bearing on facts.

weakera · Jul 25, 2021

daphne said:

Thank you.

beard · Jul 25, 2021

MichaelNadal said:
Greatest in history? Not even close. However it may end up being the most IMPORTANT yes.

We heard million times that "hardest thing in tennis is to beat Nadal on PC"... And when you do beat him and win FO with few additional notes from OP, how it isn't greatest slam win?
You mention history and yes, that's another addition why this slam is greatest ever...

Nole_The_Champion · Jul 25, 2021

weakera said:
Why do you have such a difficult time comprehending statistics and facts? Stop trying to inject subjectivity or opinion into this. It was Nadal's worst clay season ever by games and sets won percentage - by far. That is a fact. Clearly worse than even 2015. Djokovic's form was far from impressive, he merely put a terrible Nadal out of his misery. My believing Nadal had or would flip the switch has no bearing on facts.

RF-18 · Jul 25, 2021

weakera said:
Try reading and comprehending my post again.

I understand you've put games and set together, but I showed you how it looks when you seperate them.

TearTheRoofOff · Jul 25, 2021

beard said:
Lol, you suck in tennis knowledge...

Indeed. only the wise could possibly surmise that comebacks are exhaustively determined by the efforts of one player.

daphne · Jul 25, 2021

weakera said:
Thank you.

Chicken wings and WWE for you?

daphne · Jul 25, 2021

beard said:
We heard million times that "hardest thing in tennis is to beat Nadal on PC"... And when you do beat him and win FO with few additional notes from OP, how it isn't greatest slam win?
You mention history and yes, that's another addition why this slam is greatest ever...

When Nadl loses at RG it means only one thing - he wasn't at his best

NoleFam · Jul 25, 2021

Probably the greatest Djokovic win of his career.

weakera · Jul 25, 2021

RF-18 said:
I understand you've put games and set together, but I showed you how it looks when you seperate them.

And yet another comprehension failure.

nolefam_2024 · Jul 25, 2021

It's one of the greatest tournament in history.

A few more contenders from men's side.
AO2017 is at the top.
Wimbledon 1980
Wimbledon 2001
USopen 1991
Wimbledon 1985
USopen 2011

If all goes down to the last ball, USopen 2021 has chance to be the greatest tournament in history.

ForehandRF · Jul 25, 2021

Maybe not the greatest win, but it was outstanding to see Djokovic beating the King of Clay and that after the beatdown he received in their previous match on the same court.

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