Coolhwip
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It also depends on the racquet. I think Beckett plays with higher RA racquets than Mark. Whiteout 18x20 66 RA vs DR98 16x19 62 RA.
Restring Sync Thread
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TennisManiac
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I can't stand that guy.
Tan Tennis
Rookie
Actually a lot of people find it soft. All of my customers who have tried Sync so far, more than 10+ people, said it is soft and pocketing. And none of them strung below 48 lbs.
Some guys who normally use Alu power or Tour sniper said the same that Sync feels so good but they wish it has that stiffness and raw feel. For me, I’m happy the way it is. Just wish it’s shaped rather than round.
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Tan, you're referring to 17 gauge/1.25mm, or the 18 gauge.1.20mm?
Mark switched to the Gravity Pro 2023
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
I can see how something stiffer might be desirable in that frame. Really enjoyed Lux Adrenaline, Rublev style.
Tan Tennis
Rookie
Both of them actually
Tan Tennis
Rookie
I agree it depends on the rackets. I put sync on around 10 rackets including Blades, Pro Staff, Gravity, Speed, Ezone, CX200, Pure Strike, etc. and they are totally fine. I wouldn’t describe it as soft but I can see people could find it soft compared to something similar. The only frame the string becomes stiff so far is Pure Aero 98, which I honestly expected it and I didn’t think it’s a good combination. Zero would be much better on that frame.
thanks for the feedback! might try lynx tour 1.25mm mains, restring sync 1.25mm crosses in my 2022 head speed pro. or just go full bed of sync
ChrisJR3264
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Just don’t put restring sync in the tecnifbre tfight 305. It deserves better
Coolhwip
New User
I kinda wanna do this for ****s and giggles after seeing your post.Just don’t put restring sync in the tecnifbre tfight 305. It deserves better
Tan Tennis
Rookie
I played with many setups on TFight 305 and haven’t found the balance of right feel and comfort yet. Will definitely tried Sync to see if it works or not. TFight 305 is the biggest test for strings imo. Hahahaha.Just don’t put restring sync in the tecnifbre tfight 305. It deserves better
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Razor code 1.25. Blue or white.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Ice Code 1.25 worked okay/good on my short journey with TFight 315
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Ice code is a good string. Better priced than razor code. Is softer and Delivers a little more power but isn’t too muted.
Try red code 1.20 or 1.25. Very underrated string in my opinion.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Ready to test my Sync 1.28/Zero 1.25 hybrids in my BLX and BLX2 Six.One-s
Gonna report tomorrow after two days of hitting The idea is to use spinner more powerful Zero in mains in lighter (5-6 SW points) BLX2 on clay. More controlled less launchy Sync in mains on heavier BLX on hard courts.
The idea is to use spinner more powerful Zero in mains in lighter (5-6 SW points) BLX2 on clay. More controlled less launchy Sync in mains on heavier BLX on hard courts.i played with the tfight iso 305 for about a year. just switched to a speed pro. found tecnifibre razor soft and grapplesnake tour m8 to be excellent strings in it imo. for more shape, lynx tour would've been good too but the added weight of the string coupled with the high stock SW just made it too much racquet to handleJust don’t put restring sync in the tecnifbre tfight 305. It deserves better
dr. godmode
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I'd go Sync over Zero if you are coming from PTP.
Might I ask why? Does sync play more like ptp?Also, how did you find the stiffness of these 2 strings?
dr. godmode
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Similar levels of overall control. Sync plays decently stiff, though it feels soft in the hand. It behaves like it might be partially pre-stretched from factory so you don't get a big initial drop, but it also doesn't have that elastic feeling. If you are asking about stiffness because you are concerned about comfort, these strings seem quite hit and miss depending on who you are.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
It depends what tension, constant pull or not, pre-stretch or no pre-stretch.
eZone is not the harshest frame to be worried about comfort unless you have elbow/wrist issues or going way over 55lbs.
PTP even in 1.30mm and pre-stretched at 20% still loses tension very quickly, it feels nice while lasts though.
Sync and Zero definitely hold tension much better than PTP. I pre-strung both at 10% and they feel awesome at 50lbs as Sync/Zero and Zero/Sync hybrids in my oldies BLX 6.1s.
~1-2 lbs tension loss after 2+ hours of heavy practice hitting which is pretty good.
Would you say it’s stiffer than the likes of head lynx tour or softer in particular when hitting serves? Did you find sync to have better feel than ptp? Love the feel of ptp but only get a couple of hours out of the string. Did you try sync and zero as a hybrid as it sounds like zero in the mains and sync in the crosses could be brilliant.
Only time I have felt soreness was when using lynx tour in the ezone and that was mainly on serves. Do you think it’s stiffer than that string? Normally would go around 50lbs with ptp but get cut out after a few hours as it would sky everything long after that tension drops. How did you find the sync full bed and did you prefer the hybrid over the full bed of sync? Sounds like zero mains and sync crosses could be really good but not many have tried that combo yet apart from yourself.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I actually digging Sync 1.25 mains with Zero 1.28 crosses more than the reversed hybrid. It feels a bit more solid and crisp Wasabi Pro hybrid which I really liked. Also giving me some Lux Adrenaline vibes (not Alu Power like everyone says). I’ll probably going to try full bed of Sync and Zero later. It’s difficult to compare experiences since I rock super heavy 6.1s with 18x20 in 95 sq in, that’s quite opposite to eZone (you are currently hitting with). I haven’t played with YPTP in a while, 3-4 years or so since my Yonex times. Maybe try going to 47-48lbs but pre-stretch YPTP 1.30mm at 15-20%. Also Sync/Zero or full Sync with 5-10% pre-stretch. Pre-stretching always makes stringbed boardier but allows to maintain tensions WAY better, extend playable time. Even in my case with 18x20 in 95 head, I tend to break polys more than cutting them off due to tension loss. Lately I’ve been pre-stringing everything at 10% for consistency and to be able to compare strings. Torolines and Restrings are kings of snapback and tension maintenance!
Wow, the reversed hybrid performs better. Didn’t expect that answer as the zero gives so much SnapBack and the sync giving so much control just felt like it would be the other way. How did you find the feel and touch with the hybrid as well as zero and sync individually? I think sync would work better in the ezones based off what people have suggested but I am a little bit concerned by the stiffness. Had hoped tennisnerd would’ve put a review out for sync but I guess that will come soon. Have tested pre stretching ptp and sadly found it to fly from the back of the court after 6-7 hours. As you said, restring has nailed the tension maintenance from the early reviews. Do you think sync or zero perform better than ptp whether that be in a hybrid or full beds?
Tan Tennis
Rookie
I did. It plays super solid. A bit firm. A bit muted. I prefer PTP feel on Ezone 98.
How did you find the stiffness of it? It’s hard for many strings to beat the feel of ptp, especially when freshly strung. Did you prefer zero in the ezone or sync and have you tried them as a hybrid? With the string being muted, do you think this string suits the ezone 98?
dr. godmode
Hall of Fame
I’ve been considering the reverse hybrid and will do it tonight thanks to you
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
PTP is a smooth softer feeling poly. Both Sync and Zero aren’t fitting the bill imo if you are trying to find something really similar. Zero might’ve been a closer match if it wasn’t really sharp hex shaped poly. Zero also doesn’t stretch much (unlike PTP) hence better tension maintenance but more muted feel and less power. Sync is a bit closer to PTP and I would just go ahead and try a set, possibly drop a couple lbs (down to 47-48) if you worry about harshness. I’m not sure what gauge of PTP you are currently using and if it’s a neon yellow one or black/other color? I remember the black one was playing much stiffer than yellow and had a bit of texture to its surface while yellow was totally smooth. If you use 1.25 or 1.20mm then Wasabi X and Enso Pro from Toroline or their hybrid is something to consider. They are softer feeling, smooth, polys with some solid pop and then pre-stretched hold tension pretty well.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Let us know how that hybrid works in your WhiteOut
Looking for something similar to ptp in terms of feel really. Ideally it isn’t too stiff or harsh on the arm like the lynx tour. I think sync is the one to try for sure, I just wondered if it would work together as a hybrid to potentially reduce the stiffness as well as give the many benefits from the restring zero and sync. Use ptp 1.25 in yellow. Do you think sync could work well with something like wasabi x in a hybrid? As you said, the smoothness is so nice with ptp, on volleys and touch shots in particular.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I haven't tried coupling Restring Sync or Zero with Torolines yet. But tried a bunch of Toroline's strings and hybrids. This dude considers Sync with WasX his personal best and one of the best poly-poly hybrids
TennisManiac
Hall of Fame
So are you saying that Poly Tour Pro has more power than Zero?
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
I'd rather ask @Tan Tennis as he compared both recently, potentially in the same frames like eZone. I remember from stringing perspective (#Stringer4Life) that PTP stretches more than Sync.
Has either restring zero or sync become your go to string now or is there another string? Did have a watch of this video but it seemed like he preferred zero over sync, don’t know if that’s because of the racket he uses or if there is something else he prefers from one set up to another. Have you tried wasabi x as the cross in a hybrid or in a full bed?
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Not yet, I need more time with both Sync and Zero and try them both in full beds too. My last tournament setup was 2xWilson Shift 99Pro-s (340g/340SW) with Wasabi/WasabiX @52/53. I'm trying to fully switch to heavier BLX Pro Staff 6.1s now and I feel that Sync or Sync/Zero is a better fit than Wasabi Pro hybrid. As an unwritten stringer rule says: "lighter whippier frames usually work better with spinier more shaped polys -> more spin, swinging out w/o fear of overhitting". While stiffer smooth polys will suit heavier rackets with very closed patterns like Six.One-s better to enhance ability to strike thru the court and provide more solid/crisper feedback. There are exceptions of course and all depends on your playing preferences, so buy a set or two and try it for yourself. $10-11 for a set of strings won't break your bank, it's definitely not like buying a new racket for $300.
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NewcomerfromBalkan
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Can you compare Razor Soft and Head lynx tour 1.25 gauges if you can in details.?
To share exprerience
I'm on the more amateur end of the scale, solid 3.5 player, maybe 4.0 on my best days and I've tried all of them in my Head Radical MP. Zero, Lynx Tour, and Razor Soft all 17 gauge, all at 50lbs.
My takeaways...
Zero was the most spin friendly across all levels of play. If my technique got a little lazy, not swinging out, etc I still got good bite on the ball and spin.
Lynx Tour I found just punished me for poor technique. If I kept my swing speed up it worked well but if I got a little lazy or maybe losing some energy towards the end of a match it went downhill fast.
Razor Soft played the most like a round poly (I honestly don't even know if this string is shaped or not). Good control and I overall liked it but couldn't as easily get spin on the ball.
ChrisJR3264
Hall of Fame
Razor soft is not a forgiving string at all.
I wonder if it plays better with a gut or multi in the mains ….there’s a sweet spot where you love it but the playability isn’t long.
I prefer razor code much more
NewcomerfromBalkan
New User
Thank you very much.I am not sure about my level because in Europe rank doesnt exist.Overall i like round polys like razor code razor soft,because of directional control.I liked head lynx tour,this string plays like round poly even it has 6 edges shape,but. I usually use it on my little bit underspecs Tfight 305 RS,because Head lynx tour adds a lot weight and they last forever .Great economy option. On other frame i use razor code 1.20 and smooth razor soft,i agree that RAzor soft lacks spin but only if you are lazy or even when it is dead.How is it tension mainterence of those polys?
i would agree; both razor soft and lynx tour are firm but muted strings. great to swing out on and pretty good touch. i found both strings not harsh in the tfight. i find the speed pro even more comfortable than the tfight.
sync is appealing to me as it sounds like it bridges the gap between those two strings, not as muted, and jives well in softer, flexible head racquets
Could you see the restring set up becoming your main one or does it not better the wasabi set up? Too many strings to try out right now, got these 2, a few wasabi ones to test, solinco strings also to test. All just to find a good set up for the ezone 98.
I'm finding this too. So many choices that I've started to wonder some days if whether I like it comes down to whether I'm having a good or bad day playing vs a different string really being a game changer for me. My goal is to get settled on something in the next month or two and then do my best to just leave it alone for the rest of the year and truly focus on my actual game rather than equipment. I think at the end of the day most of what I've tried out so far has been more similar than it has been different.
Yeah at this point, I just want to get settled with the set up as constantly changing isn’t helping my game and like you said, it’s sometimes hard to know if it’s because of you, the string or even the weather depending on if you are playing indoors or outdoors. Just started trying hyper g but not expecting it to be the one to stay with for a while. I think I will be trying restring sync next and then see what happens.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
Yes, Restring offerings impressed me so far. I'll definitely consider Sync/Zero hybrid on my 6.1s
This is true regarding settling on equipment and working on your game instead. And yes, most polys are really similar. It's been slightly different with Torolines and Restrings though because of their extreme snapback which other strings just don't have. Because of that while playing only with Wilson Shift Pro-s strung with Wasabi Pro hybrid, I always ended up breaking the strings after 8-10 hours w/o substantial tension loss (and yes, I pre-stretch everything at 10%). While other polys including all heavily advertised and pros endorsed Babolat, Lux, Head, Solinco, Technifibre etc. were just dying after 3-6h of hitting and I had to cut them off. Dying of the poly can be different either substantial tension loss or tearing/erasure of the texture (shaped strings) so the string bed starts launching inconsistently.
Tan Tennis
Rookie
In general yes, PTP gives more power. It stretches more than Sync and Zero when stringing as you said. Zero is probably one of the least stretch strings on the top of my head. This translate into power generation as well. PTP gives very good power and it becomes more powerful the harder you hit. I find Zero has good power on casual swing, but it is underpowered at fast swing because it has limitation on stretching. And the ball doesn’t travel as fast because the bite is always getting involved and it wants to loop. This is also why people who strung it high tension or on dense pattern say that Zero is super stiff. But if you put Zero on a power racket with open pattern you will find it softer and pocket the ball really good.
Just to add on, I remember my friend brought a pro stock K-Blade 98 16x19 and he strung it with Zero, 80% of the balls I hit doesn’t even pass the service line. I restrung it with Tour Bite Soft and it suddenly becomes a powerful frame I even hit long. Lol.
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HypnoticLasagna
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Do it. It is liberating.
alexsoin
Semi-Pro
So true and sadly the cheapest stringers (drop-weight ones) are not really suited for polys. So you are into more expensive lockout or crank up machines but these cannot give you pre-stretch. I'm realizing after years and years of stringing that pre-stretch is a must for modern soft co-polys. So you'll need an electronic tensioner and that sends you into ~$1000 and up.
100% agree!
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