Restring Sync Thread

[Alex7778]

4G Soft is a bit stiffer, you can try dropping a couple lbs to get similar/same feedback but tension loss is nearly twice less. This is TW String comparison tool which is pretty good. Unfortunately, it misses a lot of strings including the newer ones.

I usually string with 1.25mm strings. I went with 1.28 Zero and 1.25 Sync because thicker strings have better snapback and tension maintenance than their thinner siblings. This is applicable not only to Restrings and Torolines but practically to any poly string, however in tight 18x20 95 sq in I couldn’t use 1.30 or thicker.

Yeah some of the more stiffer strings, the tension has been dropped. Some ways made them play better as well. That’s the only problem with the string comparison tool, it doesn’t show any newer strings like any toroline strings or restring ones.

In a tight 18x20 95, that extra thickness will help you out a lot. How come you are using a 95 sq in might I ask? I would’ve thought these days most people would use 98 or 100. Guessing due to the control and feel of the racket?

 

[alexsoin]

Yeah some of the more stiffer strings, the tension has been dropped. Some ways made them play better as well. That’s the only problem with the string comparison tool, it doesn’t show any newer strings like any toroline strings or restring ones.

In a tight 18x20 95, that extra thickness will help you out a lot. How come you are using a 95 sq in might I ask? I would’ve thought these days most people would use 98 or 100. Guessing due to the control and feel of the racket?

@Alex7778 I guess my technique was set on a really heavy (340g unstrung) thin beam Yonex MP Tour 1 Mid with 90sq in. And I had to figure out how to generate decent spins with this thing on red clay courts. So my mechanics still very similar and I use nearly same racket ~30 years later.
You should give Pro Staff a go some day, it can be even the recent 97 (16x19) v14. A little easier frame to swing but still with an amazing feel. Kudos to Wilson for not making these frames muted like most other rackets by most vendors. You know Pro Staffs wouldn’t be around for 40+ years if they weren’t GOAT type of a racket.
You see I tried Wilson Shift Pro-s which is 99sq in and it’s a good frame, pretty solid but possibly because of its thicker beam or unique flex it felt erratic at times. Definitely not the level of control I’m used to with Pro Staffs and surprisingly not much extra power.

 

[Alex7778]

@Alex7778 I guess my technique was set on a really heavy (340g unstrung) thin beam Yonex MP Tour 1 Mid with 90sq in. And I had to figure out how to generate decent spins with this thing on red clay courts. So my mechanics still very similar and I use nearly same racket ~30 years later.
You should give Pro Staff a go some day, it can be even the recent 97 (16x19) v14. A little easier frame to swing but still with an amazing feel. Kudos to Wilson for not making these frames muted like most other rackets by most vendors. You know Pro Staffs wouldn’t be around for 40+ years if they weren’t GOAT type of a racket.
You see I tried Wilson Shift Pro-s which is 99sq in and it’s a good frame, pretty solid but possibly because of its thicker beam or unique flex it felt erratic at times. Definitely not the level of control I’m used to with Pro Staffs and surprisingly not much extra power.

Wow that’s an old yonex racket. Did you manage to figure out how to produce spin with that racket or did you choose to go to the pro staffs as there was a better chance of producing spin on the clay. The feel of the pro staffs are very nice. Used one a while ago and liked it a lot for serves, volleys and forehands but just found it to not really work with my game.

Heard good things about the shift but a lot of people who have used it, have the said the flex and stiffness was a problem for them. Don’t think it betters the pro staffs but the pro staffs may need an extra something to unlock that extra power.

 

[SJS0433]

Had a doubles match this weekend that went 3 sets so got a good 2-2.5 hours of play time with my Sync hybrid and I felt like it played well. Served well for me too. I'm playing a friend Wednesday that will be a singles practice match and it will be the best tell for me as to how much I like it and what I might want to change. For as wonky as I thought it might play given the strings got mixed up but not my desired tension it played just fine.

Sync 17 in mains at 55lbs, Triax 16 in crosses at 52lbs. That said, I think the tension is truly lower than that. I have one of those twisting tension test tools and it's never read to my requested tension regardless of which string I've used or which racket it's been in. It consistently reads a solid 10lbs low so maybe I'm really playing much lower than I think. One more reason I'd love to find my own string machine and just do it myself.

 

[alexsoin]

Wow that’s an old yonex racket. Did you manage to figure out how to produce spin with that racket or did you choose to go to the pro staffs as there was a better chance of producing spin on the clay. The feel of the pro staffs are very nice. Used one a while ago and liked it a lot for serves, volleys and forehands but just found it to not really work with my game.
Heard good things about the shift but a lot of people who have used it, have the said the flex and stiffness was a problem for them. Don’t think it betters the pro staffs but the pro staffs may need an extra something to unlock that extra power.

I used a bunch of heavy Yonex mids in my teenage and early 20s: MP Tour 1, RDX, RDS, RDiS etc. Even though they are mids 90-93 but all had 16 mains probably more open than 18x20 in Pro Staff's 95. Main contributing factor to spin is not a racket and a string but technique. So thanks to my coach and a couple pros I've been copying from back then like Lleyton, Corretja, Fererro etc., I studied how to have massive spins and win a lot on red clays.
Shift Pro-s aren't harsh imo especially if you have slightly vertical swings not just flat FLAT strike thrus. Pro Staffs like RF and 6.1s have a lot of mass and all you need to is to accelerate a lot to unlock extra power you'll be rewarded with unprecedented levels of control though!

Had a doubles match this weekend that went 3 sets so got a good 2-2.5 hours of play time with my Sync hybrid and I felt like it played well. Served well for me too. I'm playing a friend Wednesday that will be a singles practice match and it will be the best tell for me as to how much I like it and what I might want to change. For as wonky as I thought it might play given the strings got mixed up but not my desired tension it played just fine.
Sync 17 in mains at 55lbs, Triax 16 in crosses at 52lbs. That said, I think the tension is truly lower than that. I have one of those twisting tension test tools and it's never read to my requested tension regardless of which string I've used or which racket it's been in. It consistently reads a solid 10lbs low so maybe I'm really playing much lower than I think. One more reason I'd love to find my own string machine and just do it myself.

Stringing your own rackets is a way to go! Try RacquetTune app for tension checks, it's like $4-5 but really worth it. Best and most convenient way to monitor poly's tension loss. Triax is another fun string similar to Lux's Element. I think I still have a couple demo packs of it somewhere. I was shredding thru the thing in crosses way too quickly but I tried with a shaped Confidential back then. Could be a good hybrid with a smooth stiffer poly like Sync.

 

[SJS0433]

I used a bunch of heavy Yonex mids in my teenage and early 20s: MP Tour 1, RDX, RDS, RDiS etc. Even though they are mids 90-93 but all had 16 mains probably more open than 18x20 in Pro Staff's 95. Main contributing factor to spin is not a racket and a string but technique. So thanks to my coach and a couple pros I've been copying from back then like Lleyton, Corretja, Fererro etc., I studied how to have massive spins and win a lot on red clays.
Shift Pro-s aren't harsh imo especially if you have slightly vertical swings not just flat FLAT strike thrus. Pro Staffs like RF and 6.1s have a lot of mass and all you need to is to accelerate a lot to unlock extra power you'll be rewarded with unprecedented levels of control though!

Stringing your own rackets is a way to go! Try RacquetTune app for tension checks, it's like $4-5 but really worth it. Best and most convenient way to monitor poly's tension loss. Triax is another fun string similar to Lux's Element. I think I still have a couple demo packs of it somewhere. I was shredding thru the thing in crosses way too quickly but I tried with a shaped Confidential back then. Could be a good hybrid with a smooth stiffer poly like Sync.

I've watched enough videos and just in general good with my hands whether it's working on cars, DIY stuff around the house, etc. I can see where experience comes into play but at the core, stringing doesn't look very difficult to me. I should be able to do a better job than the hourly workers at Tennis Warehouse. They have a ton of machines, a lot of stringers, etc so I'm sure the likelihood of my rackets getting done by the same person on the same machine are very low. I haven't had any complaints on any of the string jobs I've had done there aside from this recent mixup but I do think I could do a better job myself after some practice and time doing it.

I haven't actually ever played with a multi outside of demo rackets so not even sure what to expect for how long it might last. I'm more likely to want to try something else before it even gives up on me. I still want to try Sync as a cross with something like Tour Bite or Lynx Tour as the main. I'd say Zero but I can't do that blue string on my new CX200.

 

[alexsoin]

I've watched enough videos and just in general good with my hands whether it's working on cars, DIY stuff around the house, etc. I can see where experience comes into play but at the core, stringing doesn't look very difficult to me. I should be able to do a better job than the hourly workers at Tennis Warehouse. They have a ton of machines, a lot of stringers, etc so I'm sure the likelihood of my rackets getting done by the same person on the same machine are very low. I haven't had any complaints on any of the string jobs I've had done there aside from this recent mixup but I do think I could do a better job myself after some practice and time doing it.

I haven't actually ever played with a multi outside of demo rackets so not even sure what to expect for how long it might last. I'm more likely to want to try something else before it even gives up on me. I still want to try Sync as a cross with something like Tour Bite or Lynx Tour as the main. I'd say Zero but I can't do that blue string on my new CX200.

Sadly, TW's stringing is really really bad

Triax and Element are different type of multis made of a thousand (or so) super thin poly fibers.
I stopped caring about color matching rackets and strings or tennis clothes for that matter long long time ago

 

[SJS0433]

Sadly, TW's stringing is really really bad

Triax and Element are different type of multis made of a thousand (or so) super thin poly fibers.
I stopped caring about color matching rackets and strings or tennis clothes for that matter long long time ago

I did see that. Generally I haven't had that problem and they've done my rackets 8-10 times now. I can only think of one time that it was similarly bad like that.

 

[SJS0433]

Played a singles match against a friend last night where I knew I'd be able to get in some good baseline rallies and feel out these strings on my normal groundstrokes and I was very happy. For once when the strings are dead I might actually have my racket restrung with the exact same setup. I feel like it was still ultimately requiring me to have good technique more than letting the string help me get spin on the ball but at the end of the day that's a good thing long term for my game. When I swung properly I had no problem getting the ball to do what I wanted. Even with the multi crosses it seems like the Sync is still moving well and coming right back. I didn't have to adjust the strings at all.

Having never played with multi strings anywhere in my racket I'm very curious to see how long they last in the crosses. Sync being round hopefully helps. I will say it does soften up the string bed just enough that I get a good feel for how I strike the ball.

 

[pango330]

Played a singles match against a friend last night where I knew I'd be able to get in some good baseline rallies and feel out these strings on my normal groundstrokes and I was very happy. For once when the strings are dead I might actually have my racket restrung with the exact same setup. I feel like it was still ultimately requiring me to have good technique more than letting the string help me get spin on the ball but at the end of the day that's a good thing long term for my game. When I swung properly I had no problem getting the ball to do what I wanted. Even with the multi crosses it seems like the Sync is still moving well and coming right back. I didn't have to adjust the strings at all.

Having never played with multi strings anywhere in my racket I'm very curious to see how long they last in the crosses. Sync being round hopefully helps. I will say it does soften up the string bed just enough that I get a good feel for how I strike the ball.

What multi and tensions did you use? What racquet?

 

[SJS0433]

What multi and tensions did you use? What racquet?

Sync 17 gauge at 55lbs in mains, TF Triax 16 gauge in crosses at 52lbs. 2024 Dunlop CX200 LS.

I purposely went for the lighter frame so that I could more fine tune the overall balance of the racket with lead tape if desired. I also know that at my level of play I don't need to be trying to use something spec'd out like the pros use. I have no idea what the swingweight is but static weight is a low 313g. I think what has helped the most for me here is the low weight really helps me get racket head speed up. My Radical MP I was playing with measured out to the exact same 313g static but it's more head heavy.

As far as tension goes my Tourna string meter says actual tensions is much much lower than that but it's always read low no matter what string or gauge or tension I ask for. I tend not to believe that it's actually accurate to the number but it is a good way to at least monitor over time. Regardless of how accurate it is to actual tension, I do trust that if tensions has dropped significantly that it will at least accurately pick that up.

 

[pango330]

Sync 17 gauge at 55lbs in mains, TF Triax 16 gauge in crosses at 52lbs. 2024 Dunlop CX200 LS.

I purposely went for the lighter frame so that I could more fine tune the overall balance of the racket with lead tape if desired. I also know that at my level of play I don't need to be trying to use something spec'd out like the pros use. I have no idea what the swingweight is but static weight is a low 313g. I think what has helped the most for me here is the low weight really helps me get racket head speed up. My Radical MP I was playing with measured out to the exact same 313g static but it's more head heavy.

As far as tension goes my Tourna string meter says actual tensions is much much lower than that but it's always read low no matter what string or gauge or tension I ask for. I tend not to believe that it's actually accurate to the number but it is a good way to at least monitor over time. Regardless of how accurate it is to actual tension, I do trust that if tensions has dropped significantly that it will at least accurately pick that up.

Thanks for the response. Just dropped off Head Speed Pro 2022s to be strung full bed of Sync at 51/49. I know comfort levels have been varied across reviewers, racquets, but I am hoping I get similar feedback such as @Tan Tennis 's review experience. Triax is a really great, unique, and high playability string. Just a little too powerful for my taste, Velocity MLT is probably the multi I would go for, but I haven't strayed away from full poly for years now.

 

[SJS0433]

Thanks for the response. Just dropped off Head Speed Pro 2022s to be strung full bed of Sync at 51/49. I know comfort levels have been varied across reviewers, racquets, but I am hoping I get similar feedback such as @Tan Tennis 's review experience. Triax is a really great, unique, and high playability string. Just a little too powerful for my taste, Velocity MLT is probably the multi I would go for, but I haven't strayed away from full poly for years now.

I'll add too that this is the highest tension I've ever played with. When I had my Radical I only used/tried full poly setups, usually at 48-50lbs. When I demo'd the Dunlop the only one they had available at the time was a full multi strung racket but I decided to just give it a go. I think that demo one was even lighter than mine but it was immediate to me how much more easily and faster I could swing it and I was finding that while it did lack stability (and still does) the low weight was doing more good than harm. I'm sure as my tennis progresses the lower weight could become an issue but I'll address it at that time. It was that demo though that sparked me to want to try a hybrid setup. I had actually asked them to do the Triax in mains at 55lbs, and Sync in crosses at 52lbs but they mixed up the strings. Not having any experience or reference to just know it might be terrible I decided I'd just go for it anyways and to my surprise I'm very happy. I think the extra power with Triax is nice in something like the CX200 which is a lower powered control racket. I play another friend tomorrow that's always been a tough opponent so I'll be curious to see how that goes. He's a baseline grinder so I'll be sure to get a lot of hitting in.

 

[alexsoin]

I had actually asked them to do the Triax in mains at 55lbs, and Sync in crosses at 52lbs but they mixed up the strings.

This sounds like a proper setup, softer string at higher tension to balance the stringbed. I would use exact same tensions (Sync 52 mains and Triax 55 crosses) for the reversed hybrid. However, I noticed lately a lot of players use lower tensions on crosses even for softer poly, multi or syngut coupled with stiffer poly in mains. It kind of makes sense as poly in the mains might lose tension real quick and that balances the stringbed, possibly not the case if you pre-stretch poly(s). I need some more data and personal testing of this I guess. BTW, Fed had his nattygut in mains at 2-3lbs lower than ALU Rough in crosses. Talking about GOATs and their equipment

 

[Povl Carstensen]

This sounds like a proper setup, softer string at higher tension to balance the stringbed. I would use exact same tensions (Sync 52 mains and Triax 55 crosses) for the reversed hybrid. However, I noticed lately a lot of players use lower tensions on crosses even for softer poly, multi or syngut coupled with stiffer poly in mains. It kind of makes sense as poly in the mains might lose tension real quick and that balances the stringbed, possibly not the case if you pre-stretch poly(s). I need some more data and personal testing of this I guess. BTW, Fed had his nattygut in mains at 2-3lbs lower than ALU Rough in crosses. Talking about GOATs and their equipment

No, Fed had crosses 3 lbs lower

 

[alexsoin]

No, Fed had crosses 3 lbs lower

Yeah, you right 1.5kg lower on ALU ruff in crosses, he used a lot of different tensions too but kept this 1.5g delta between mains and crosses.
I think Murray switched to gut mains at 58 with ALU cross at 60lbs for 2024 season but I might be wrong too.

 

[SJS0433]

This sounds like a proper setup, softer string at higher tension to balance the stringbed. I would use exact same tensions (Sync 52 mains and Triax 55 crosses) for the reversed hybrid. However, I noticed lately a lot of players use lower tensions on crosses even for softer poly, multi or syngut coupled with stiffer poly in mains. It kind of makes sense as poly in the mains might lose tension real quick and that balances the stringbed, possibly not the case if you pre-stretch poly(s). I need some more data and personal testing of this I guess. BTW, Fed had his nattygut in mains at 2-3lbs lower than ALU Rough in crosses. Talking about GOATs and their equipment

Yes, that's how it's felt so far. The wonky tension thing I actually think could work itself out over time as Sync is likely to lose more tension than Triax, provided the Triax holds up long enough. I really like the way it feels when I strike the ball well and whether it's this racket or strings or a combination of both it feels like the first time ever where I could actually really tell where in the stringbed I was hitting the ball. Never felt like I had that feel with my Radical MP.

 

[topspn]

It also depends on the racquet. I think Beckett plays with higher RA racquets than Mark. Whiteout 18x20 66 RA vs DR98 16x19 62 RA.

MP tennis who plays with a heavily modified rad pro says it’s stiff

 

[alexsoin]

MP tennis who plays with a heavily modified rad pro says it’s stiff

Stiff, soft is a very individual and relative thing imo. I haven’t tried a full bed of Sync but played 10+ hours with 1.25 Sync mains with 1.28 Zero crosses @50lbs (pre-stretched at 10% and with constant pull). It doesn’t feel stiff or even ALU like in my PS 6.1s, gives very comfy Lux Adrenaline vibes.

 

[TK Tennis]

Yeah, you right 1.5kg lower on ALU ruff in crosses, he used a lot of different tensions too but kept this 1.5g delta between mains and crosses.
I think Murray switched to gut mains at 58 with ALU cross at 60lbs for 2024 season but I might be wrong too.

Lowering tension on the cross "seems" to make logical sense and many people suggest it, but it's actually poor practice. When a machine pulls the cross strings the main strings are causing significant tension, and therefore when the machine gets to it's set tension it stops as you would expect. The problem is the set tension is not accounting for all the friction caused by the mains and therefore the actual cross tension is about 6-8 pounds less than it would be if the friction from the mains did not exist. In short, cross string tension are already much lower than main string tension. This is likely the reason many pro players have their cross strings higher than the mains.
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I am not certain that my above statement is true, but I did see someone on Youtube measure the tension on the cross strings using a gauge and the gauge supported this theory. I have yet to measure this myself.

 

[HypnoticLasagna]

Lowering tension on the cross "seems" to make logical sense and many people suggest it, but it's actually poor practice. When a machine pulls the cross strings the main strings are causing significant tension, and therefore when the machine gets to it's set tension it stops as you would expect. The problem is the set tension is not accounting for all the friction caused by the mains and therefore the actual cross tension is about 6-8 pounds less than it would be if the friction from the mains did not exist. In short, cross string tension are already much lower than main string tension. This is likely the reason many pro players have their cross strings higher than the mains.
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I am not certain that my above statement is true, but I did see someone on Youtube measure the tension on the cross strings using a gauge and the gauge supported this theory. I have yet to measure this myself.

I'm pretty sure it's because the crosses are adding tension to the mains.

 

[alexsoin]

Lowering tension on the cross "seems" to make logical sense and many people suggest it, but it's actually poor practice. When a machine pulls the cross strings the main strings are causing significant tension, and therefore when the machine gets to it's set tension it stops as you would expect. The problem is the set tension is not accounting for all the friction caused by the mains and therefore the actual cross tension is about 6-8 pounds less than it would be if the friction from the mains did not exist. In short, cross string tension are already much lower than main string tension. This is likely the reason many pro players have their cross strings higher than the mains.
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I am not certain that my above statement is true, but I did see someone on Youtube measure the tension on the cross strings using a gauge and the gauge supported this theory. I have yet to measure this myself.

That’s probably the reason why Toroline always recommends to string crosses in their hybrids (usually Wasabi X or Enso Pro) at 2-3lbs higher than mains! I generally string either at the same tension then doing 2-pc/4-ties of the same string. Or 2-3lbs higher on the softer string (multi, syn or natty gut) no matter if it’s in the mains or crosses. Still kind of have to try things out with poly/poly hybrids which is relatively new thing. I’m pretty sure that the main reason is tightening of the mains after weaving and pulling the crosses.

 

[SJS0433]

Lowering tension on the cross "seems" to make logical sense and many people suggest it, but it's actually poor practice. When a machine pulls the cross strings the main strings are causing significant tension, and therefore when the machine gets to it's set tension it stops as you would expect. The problem is the set tension is not accounting for all the friction caused by the mains and therefore the actual cross tension is about 6-8 pounds less than it would be if the friction from the mains did not exist. In short, cross string tension are already much lower than main string tension. This is likely the reason many pro players have their cross strings higher than the mains.
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I am not certain that my above statement is true, but I did see someone on Youtube measure the tension on the cross strings using a gauge and the gauge supported this theory. I have yet to measure this myself.

This actually makes a lot of sense and my Tourna String Meter pretty much confirms the same whenever I check strings. For the last year I've been playing with poly at 50lbs and the mains consistently read 5-8lbs higher. I may ask for my crosses 2-3lbs higher next time and just see how it plays.


I also got in another singles match last night with a friend that's a tough opponent using my Sync/Triax hybrid and still really liking it a lot. My friend is a baseline brick wall. Never strikes the ball hard and just grinds getting everything back. We tend to have very long rallies compared to anyone else I've ever played so I had lots of strokes. I think for the first time in a year I may actually go back and have the racket restrung identically. I'd still like to try Sync as a cross with a shaped poly but that may be the only other thing I test and then I'm just going to stick to one or the other.

 

[celsoluck]

This actually makes a lot of sense and my Tourna String Meter pretty much confirms the same whenever I check strings. For the last year I've been playing with poly at 50lbs and the mains consistently read 5-8lbs higher. I may ask for my crosses 2-3lbs higher next time and just see how it plays.


I also got in another singles match last night with a friend that's a tough opponent using my Sync/Triax hybrid and still really liking it a lot. My friend is a baseline brick wall. Never strikes the ball hard and just grinds getting everything back. We tend to have very long rallies compared to anyone else I've ever played so I had lots of strokes. I think for the first time in a year I may actually go back and have the racket restrung identically. I'd still like to try Sync as a cross with a shaped poly but that may be the only other thing I test and then I'm just going to stick to one or the other.

Tourna String Meter is not calibrated to measure the crosses tension.

 

[alexsoin]

Tourna String Meter is not calibrated to measure the crosses tension.

Tourna String meter is not calibrated for anything actually. You still can compare mains and crosses tensions especially if it's the same string done in 2 pieces like dude below

 

[SJS0433]

Tourna String meter is not calibrated for anything actually. You still can compare mains and crosses tensions especially if it's the same string done in 2 pieces like dude below

Good to know. I've always used it more like a measuring tool just to have a reference point. Note what tension starts at and monitor over time. But what he's seeing is essentially the same as what I've noticed. More than anything I just use it to make sure there hasn't been a seriously large drop off.

 

[alexsoin]

Good to know. I've always used it more like a measuring tool just to have a reference point. Note what tension starts at and monitor over time. But what he's seeing is essentially the same as what I've noticed. More than anything I just use it to make sure there hasn't been a seriously large drop off.

I had better and more consistent results of monitoring tension drop with RacketTune app, it doesn't allow you to measure mains and crosses separately though. I have this Tourna thing somewhere at home too but haven't used it in years, it just measures completely off if the string is not medium stiffness poly (stiffer poly, multi, natty and syngut etc.).

 

[Jodee]

I strung my customised Blade 16x19 (342g / 327sw) with full bed of Sync 1.25 at 48lbs and had about 6 hrs of hitting with it so far. And I absolutely love it in this particular racket! Looking forward to trying it in my 18x20 Blades as well.

Prior to Sync I had Solinco Confidential in this frame and had to work infinitely harder with it than with Sync. I feel like Sync is way more forgiving yet still offers superb control. So much so that I had to double check if I didn't string one of my 18x20s instead of 16x19 by accident..

Another awesome thing about it IMO is that it performs well on a variety of different shots. I'm able to flatten out just as well as hit with heavy spin and it responds great. Seems like it can accommodate a variety of different strokes, although I wouldn't say it's a 'spin monster'. Still has more than enough spin for my liking.

I also find it very comfortable and do agree that it feels soft. I'll see how long the playability lasts, but after 6hrs it's already better than my favourite Tour Bite Soft, which I would still prefer overall over Sync by a slight margin except for its' playability duration. I don't have time to restring more than every two weeks or so, therefore I'm gonna buy a reel of Sync and see if I like it enough to make a switch.

I think Sync is a great option for a lot of club players up to upper intermediate /low advanced, can't speak for higher level players.

 

[alexsoin]

I strung my customised Blade 16x19 (342g / 327sw) with full bed of Sync 1.25 at 48lbs and had about 6 hrs of hitting with it so far. And I absolutely love it in this particular racket! Looking forward to trying it in my 18x20 Blades as well.

Prior to Sync I had Solinco Confidential in this frame and had to work infinitely harder with it than with Sync. I feel like Sync is way more forgiving yet still offers superb control. So much so that I had to double check if I didn't string one of my 18x20s instead of 16x19 by accident..

Another awesome thing about it IMO is that it performs well on a variety of different shots. I'm able to flatten out just as well as hit with heavy spin and it responds great. Seems like it can accommodate a variety of different strokes, although I wouldn't say it's a 'spin monster'. Still has more than enough spin for my liking.

I also find it very comfortable and do agree that it feels soft. I'll see how long the playability lasts, but after 6hrs it's already better than my favourite Tour Bite Soft, which I would still prefer overall over Sync by a slight margin except for its' playability duration. I don't have time to restring more than every two weeks or so, therefore I'm gonna buy a reel of Sync and see if I like it enough to make a switch.

I think Sync is a great option for a lot of club players up to upper intermediate /low advanced, can't speak for higher level players.

Your full bed of Sync experience making me wanna try it too in my 6.1s. I was equally impressed with 16L Sync/Zero and Zero/Sync hybrids. Playability wise I like Zero/Sync better, a bit softer with a tad of extra spin. However, Sync/Zero holds tension better and has less notching and still snaps back like new. Great control and predictability in both hybrids (both at 50lbs 10% pre-strung and constant pull) but Sync/Zero is slightly better in that department especially after erratic ~1h of settling. Comparing both after about 10h of play time. I think playing only on clay with Zero/Sync caused more wear and tear (i.e. notching), a factor for sure. Kudos to Restring and more testing and playtime is needed with Zero, Sync and their hybrids.

 

[Blade_X]

Is anyone in here that hated zero in full bed but enjoyed it in zero/sync hybrid ? I found zero in full bed too unpredictable for flat game….

 

[pango330]

First hit with full bed Sync 1.25mm 51/49 in Head Speed Pro. Wow.

Fantastic directional control. Great feel; great at the net. For my strokes, plenty of spin generation on both forehands and backhands. Definitely lower powered than other round strings like PTP. Had to get used to it on serves.

Slight discomfort, so lower the tension 2/4 lbs might be the move, or cross it with a comfort thinner poly like 1.22 or 1.18 Ghostwire. I think this is the one!!!

 

[JFrijhoff]

Finally got some Sync 1.20 in, to try on my Gravity MP (adapted to Tour specs), and Pro. Let’s see.

 

[alexsoin]

Is anyone in here that hated zero in full bed but enjoyed it in zero/sync hybrid ? I found zero in full bed too unpredictable for flat game….

These dudes apparently

they are “3.5 at best” but a couple legit points I tend to agree with.

 

[alexsoin]

First hit with full bed Sync 1.25mm 51/49 in Head Speed Pro. Wow.

Fantastic directional control. Great feel; great at the net. For my strokes, plenty of spin generation on both forehands and backhands. Definitely lower powered than other round strings like PTP. Had to get used to it on serves.

Slight discomfort, so lower the tension 2/4 lbs might be the move, or cross it with a comfort thinner poly like 1.22 or 1.18 Ghostwire. I think this is the one!!!

Couple more options for you: 1.20 Sync and possibly hybrid of it with 1.23 or 1.28 Zero (in crosses or even mains) for comfort!

 

[Roforot]

. This is likely the reason many pro players have their cross strings higher than the mains.
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I am not certain that my above statement is true, but I did see someone on Youtube measure the tension on the cross strings using a gauge and the gauge supported this theory. I have yet to measure this myself.

Where did you see this? I recall someone posting the HOuston stringers board and people had the same or lower tension on crosses. As far as I know, Toroline is the only one suggesting higher tension on crosses.
I think Yonex also recommends stringing crosses 1-2# less on their frames.

 

[Jodee]

Is anyone in here that hated zero in full bed but enjoyed it in zero/sync hybrid ? I found zero in full bed too unpredictable for flat game….

I would just start with full bed of Sync as IMO this string is great for flat game

 

[alexsoin]

Where did you see this? I recall someone posting the HOuston stringers board and people had the same or lower tension on crosses. As far as I know, Toroline is the only one suggesting higher tension on crosses.
I think Yonex also recommends stringing crosses 1-2# less on their frames.

Yonex recommends this because of isometric hoop design though. It might be applicable just to couple other frames like Head Boom.

 

[HypnoticLasagna]

Finally got sync strung up. I put the Sero blend in my Diadem Nova v3 at 50 lb. And played with full bed of sync at 47lb in a blade v8 for a few minutes. Full bed played horrendous with a damper, but once that was out I could see how nice the string is. Felt good hitting out and pretty good feel for the close game. If you are hating this string and playing with a damper in the string bed... take it out and try it again. Probably my favorite full bed round string I have tried in recent years pushing Hyper G round down to #2. (still need to do Enso pro FB)
As for the Sero blend, so far it is really good. I like the zero mains and they offer the little bit of extra bite that I miss with round strings. In the Nova it was excellent, but I could see why others might not like it, its pretty firm at 50 (it was an accident). I didn't notice any unpredicability with the string as of yet. Will get more playtime on it in the coming weeks, and probably will grab a few more sets of both to use over the summer months.

 

[Jodee]

Finally got sync strung up. I put the Sero blend in my Diadem Nova v3 at 50 lb. And played with full bed of sync at 47lb in a blade v8 for a few minutes. Full bed played horrendous with a damper, but once that was out I could see how nice the string is. Felt good hitting out and pretty good feel for the close game. If you are hating this string and playing with a damper in the string bed... take it out and try it again. Probably my favorite full bed round string I have tried in recent years pushing Hyper G round down to #2. (still need to do Enso pro FB)
As for the Sero blend, so far it is really good. I like the zero mains and they offer the little bit of extra bite that I miss with round strings. In the Nova it was excellent, but I could see why others might not like it, it’s pretty firm at 50 (it was an accident). I didn't notice any unpredicability with the string as of yet. Will get more playtime on it in the coming weeks, and probably will grab a few more sets of both to use over the summer months.

Interesting, for me it was exact opposite and I enjoyed this string with a dampener a lot more.

Just shows how subjective the experience of any tennis equipment is.

But I totally agree that adding/removing the dampener changes the feel of this string quite a bit.

 

[alexsoin]

Interesting, for me it was exact opposite and I enjoyed this string with a dampener a lot more.

Just shows how subjective the experience of any tennis equipment is.

But I totally agree that adding/removing the dampener changes the feel of this string quite a bit.

Thing about dampeners, you removed it once and suffer thru 10-15 min of annoying sounds on hitting the stringbed. And then most likely you’ll never use them ever again due to much better connection/feel on contact

 

[HypnoticLasagna]

Thing about dampeners, you removed it once and suffer thru 10-15 min of annoying sounds on hitting the stringbed. And then most likely you’ll never use them ever again due to much better connection/feel on contact

I typically don't hit with them, but it was a friend's racquet. He was ready to cut sync out after 1 hour until I forced him to remove the damper. Sync doesn't have much of "ping" to it.

 

[Roforot]

Thing about dampeners, you removed it once and suffer thru 10-15 min of annoying sounds on hitting the stringbed. And then most likely you’ll never use them ever again due to much better connection/feel on contact

Some people swear it protects them from tennis elbow. I just go along w/ it b/c maybe that placebo effect helps them. I stopped using dampener first when I started using racquettune, and I also noted I preferred the feel/contact.

 

[alexsoin]

I typically don't hit with them, but it was a friend's racquet. He was ready to cut sync out after 1 hour until I forced him to remove the damper. Sync doesn't have much of "ping" to it.

That’s the thing about Sync apparently, you have to let it “settle in” or break in. And it can take up to an hour depending on starting tension, pre-stretched or not and how hard you actually hit. BUT then Sync plays nearly same until it snaps as least 1.25mm version of it which I use. I started to love the sound w/o dampening so then I take someone’s racket with one in it, just feels so off so silent and muted!

Some people swear it protects them from tennis elbow. I just go along w/ it b/c maybe that placebo effect helps them. I stopped using dampener first when I started using racquettune, and I also noted I preferred the feel/contact.

That “TE protection” always makes me laugh. Kudos for using RacketTune app, I’m a big fan of it too!

 

[Jodee]

I never liked dampeners in my 18x20 Blades as for me it totally negated the feel, connection and control those frames offer.

But for some reason I do like my 16x19 frame with a dampener way more than without.

Curious to see if I like Sync better without a dampener once I string the 18x20's with it. I'm guessing yes.

100% agree that you have to let Sync break in, I also noticed its' magic unfolding after about 1 - 1.5hr of hitting.

 

[Jodee]

Does anyone know the weight of the 1.25 Sync set? Or weight per 1 meter?

I forgot to weigh it before stringing and would like to set an accurate string factor in Racket Tune to track tension maintenance

 

[alexsoin]

Does anyone know the weight of the 1.25 Sync set? Or weight per 1 meter?

I forgot to weigh it before stringing and would like to set an accurate string factor in Racket Tune to track tension maintenance

I got 20g from a new 12.2m set of Sync 1.25mm. Not the most precise balance though, works better for weighing my 350+g rackets.

 

[alexsoin]

 

[Roforot]

Interesting to see how Zero hype is being replaced by Sync.

 

[alexsoin]

Interesting to see how Zero hype is being replaced by Sync.

LOL there's some truth to this tho!

 

[Funbun]

Starting to think Sync mains or full bed may be the move for me; the directional control and firmness is there as long as it stays in the mains.

Currently enjoy Sync/Zero but there's not much in feel there. I guess you can't have everything without some sort of compromise lol