I might be lost and confused, but I played at 5.5 level tournaments, won a few rounds each time, and probably at 60 now, can still beat most of you. Of course, the 5.5's will crush me, I only claim 4.0.
And of course you don't understand what I say....you are less than 4.0 or so, and have no experience compared to my 30 odd years.
Look at Slicendicer's posts...everyone disagrees with him too...because he's been playing since foreever also.
You new guys only know tennis from the previous 10 years. I watched tennis from Newcombe/Rosewall days.
I'm not looking at how easy the volleys were. I'm watching the technique, and Clint's is very good. The jury's still out on you until I see some video evidence.
I was under the impression that Slicendicer was a young guy.
If he is infact a senior citizen, then having looked at his pictures I want some of whatever he is drinking, because he has found the fountain of youth.
J
Caste the first stone... or something like that... isn't that one of your "lessons" you adhere to?
Lets see some vid of the Matt-ster volley technique... I am curious to see a tennis game based on virtual tennis lessons and no actual coaching.
C'mon... do it. :shock:
Jager-Bombs... no fountain of youth, but drink enough of them, you will find the porcelain throne.
That post was addressed to LD, if you took the time to read. I never said that my volley technique is perfect. But I do know HOW to hit a perfect volley. I'm still very young and have lots to learn. My main focus has been my serve and forehand over the last couple months. The way I see it, the volley is a piece of cake if you're coming in on a heavy shot like that.
And I never said that I could hang with top players in the world either; LD did. I dislike when someone is posting their "credentials" instead of discussing their views intelligently.
If LD can debate the issue and prove me wrong using a sufficient amount of video evidence, then I'll back off. But this section should be evaluated based on the quality of the information posted, not an NTRP scale. It is possible to possess knowledge without actually applying it, you know. Still working on the latter.
Will post a video when I get one that I can live with.
Matt
Crap, and all this time I have been going with Whisky and PCP.
J
I think volleying at a high level is actually very diifficult, takes a lot of discipline as well because you have to know what to do for each type of ball. It also takes a high level of fitness. If you're doing volley drills and the legs aren't burning something is wrong! Good volleyers make it look easy and effortless though.
Hey Matt... although I believe the volley is the easiest stroke in tennis, it is hardly a piece of cake. You have a lot to learn if you want to be a "professional" coach... a lot. As for LeeD, who cares... leave him be... he means well and obviously is as amped up about tennis as you are. You may consider unplugging from this virtual tennis world you think is so great... I can tell you it is not. You can't learn tennis from a computer. Find a group of juniors and a coach and start working on your game.
BTW... knowing "how to hit a perfect volley" means nothing. You don't need to be reeming others on how to volley, when you admittedly can't volley yourself.
That's the most ignorant statement I've seen in awhile. This is the internet, buddy. It's not like I'm along side every poster showing them how to hit the shot. And yes, it IS possible to learn through writing and knowing how to apply it with correct practice habits.
Furthermore, when I said the volley is a piece of cake I was exaggerating. Thought that was obvious. All I meant was that winning points at net is much easier when you're coming in on a good offensive shot. Ever heard of Pete Sampras?
My technique may not be perfect as of now, but many players have complimented me on my skills at net. And my backhand volley is not so bad. Am working on grooving the forehand volley.
I've said multiple times that I have a lot to learn about coaching. Do you get some sort of sick pleasure from putting others down?
I'm getting tired of this.
Matt
I'm doing my best at this and I apologize if you misinterpreted some of my posts. Everyone has to start somewhere.How exactly is anybody to know you are exagerrating? Case and point. Written words don't reflect inflections.
They do if you understand basic reading comprehension. If you'd just read things in context you'd have understood that I meant that volleys are much easier when coming in on good terms. I never said "I don't need to learn how to volley because I have a good serve and forehand".
Winning points is easier at net when following an offensive shot?? What are you talking about? I see... winning service games is easier if you serve aces. I think I follow your logic now.
Service aces are the only approach shots used in tennis? All righty then.
Sampras... sure... who hasn't heard of Pete Sampras?
Once again, reading comprehension FTW. Ever heard on an example? We use them sometimes to strengthen an argument.
I'm not coming down on you... you just leave it wide open. Choose your words and only offer advice if you know what you are talking about... and with all due respect... you don't coach, play tournaments, or have ever had a coached tennis lesson. Why are you critiquing everybody's tennis game?
I was a high performance coach years ago... if you want advice on endurance workouts, hit me up. I got you, baby... it's all good.
I'm doing my best at this and I apologize if you misinterpreted some of my posts. Everyone has to start somewhere.
BTW, I have taught already to some extent. My little brother's serve has improved a LOT using the ACE system. Clocked it at around 95 MPH, and I think he can break the 100 MPH mark on a good day.
Is that the Heath Waters thing? I dont know them (I'm older than Lindsay) but some girls I have worked with know her and everyone loves those kids. She and that Rossana are the tour moms, people just love them. I think it is great. She has proven you can have a balanced life.
you would be correct. volleying at a high level is very difficult. you need to get your footwork perfect. and getting there is almost impossible with how good people are at the baseline now. to many people stand at net either getting fed balls or with a hitting partner thats just floating balls back and thinking there volleys are good when in fact there just standing there pushing the ball back. just because its going in doesnt make it good. if it has nothing on it you lose.
Yes, great people. Their site has changed my game in ways I never thought possible. The detail is just amazing. Have posted many questions to Heath and he's always been quick to respond. Consider myself subscribed for life.
Matt
Can't go wrong with the free samples, haha!
Free is good...
How is OSU's tennis these days? I guess I could look myself. A couple of friends of mine from back in the day (male and female) played there in the early 90s. They were really good back then! The women's team has always had a strong polish connection. The guy I knew was american, I think a *******erner, he was really good. I cant remember his name though.
Tennis is ridiculously hard.
Isn't that kind of what makes it fun?
J
It says you are hitting halfcourt to warm up the balls I always hit halfcourt to warm myself up From that angle it is hard to see what is going on indeed.
Those courts look uber fast. Are they?
Finally got vid from the other angle. Much easier to see what's up. Got a collection of half court warmup, volley drill, and attacking points.
http://vimeo.com/3427345
J
Yeah that's a great camera position, really shows whats going on! I your drive volleys btw. Keep up the good work !
Volleys in general should feel stable i imagine with a 14 oz beast ?
Thanks man, work in progress.
And yea, the frame volleys quite nicely. Anything that goes wrong it 100% my fault
J
Haha, at first it looked like you meant the actual frame volleys nicely. Was getting visions of my epic shanked angled winners for a second.
I like the way you speed up your game after a few slo moving warmup balls.
Well. . . Not to brag, but I have hit some pretty nice framed second serves
J
I imagine twist serves would be monstrous.
You saw my "Kickserve From Hell" video right?
Over the 12' high back curtain!
J
Thats a wicked serve... did it hit a line ?
And that is why you should never play on a clay court, boys and girls.
Nothing beats playing on a decent clay court in my opinion
Ever played on real grass, Jo11y? I bet you'd hate it with those long swings.
Well, I was somewhat serious, just by looking at your style of play and the fact that you seem to play mostly on clay. Not knocking you, just asking. I must play on grass some day.I can't tell if you are joking or serious with the betting I would hate it.
J
Well, I was somewhat serious, just by looking at your style of play and the fact that you seem to play mostly on clay. Not knocking you, just asking. I must play on grass some day.
I don't get it, Jo11y. It was just a question. I guess you DO like to play on grass?
I've never liked these tennis cliches anymore than you do.
In all honesty, I was just making conversation. My apologies if it was offensive to you.
Well, we may be getting a little off topic for a volley thread, but carry on. I'm listening.